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California Firearm Owners! Read this Legislative Update!!
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Posted on 07/01/2002 1:57:36 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
California State Constitutional Amendment 12, a measure that would levy a five cent tax on every bullet sold in the state, passed out of the Senate Health and Human Services Committee on Wednesday. The proposed amendment, introduced by Senator Don Perata (D-09), received the minimum seven committee votes required for passage. Now, the Senate Revenue and Taxation Committee may see the amendment soon. Also on the docket are Senate Bill 682 (Perata) and Assembly Bill 496 (Paul Koretz, D-42), bills that would effectively strip firearms manufacturers of current protection in state law granting them limited statutory immunity from being sued. This limited immunity has been on the books since 1983 and was passed originally to halt greedy trial lawyers who want nothing more than to pad their bank accounts while putting this nation's lawful firearm manufacturers out of business. California gun owners must work hard to assure that these harmful legislative proposals are defeated!
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For all you firearm owners and people who support the 2nd Amendment in California, you better make your voice heard or move out of the state.
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Kali is doomed. All your votes have been usurped by liberals and immigrants. Good luck with this one but like I said...it's going to be tough to say the least.
EBUCK
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posted on
07/01/2002 1:59:55 PM PDT
by
EBUCK
To: *bang_list
Bang
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posted on
07/01/2002 2:01:10 PM PDT
by
Khepera
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Nothing we can do. Next to PA, we have most NRA members...and it does nothing...not with the lead the Dems have in the Leg.
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posted on
07/01/2002 2:02:33 PM PDT
by
madison46
To: Khepera
Start learning how to buy your shooter supplies online and reload your own ammo.
Ops4 God Bless America
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posted on
07/01/2002 2:02:40 PM PDT
by
OPS4
To: madison46
NRA is pro gun control.
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posted on
07/01/2002 2:04:02 PM PDT
by
Khepera
To: EBUCK
"Kali is doomed. All your votes have been usurped by liberals and immigrants." You don't know how right you are.
Right now, only 20% of registered voters in Lost Angeles are Hispanic, even though 50% of the public there is Hispanic - mainly due to most being so young. Simple math means that, in under 18 years, most voters in Lost Angeles will be Hispanic. Similar math is moving Kalifornia inevitably to becoming Alta Mexico statewide.
So don't be the last guy on your block trying to sell your home.
IMMIGRATION resource library: public-health facts, court decisions, local INS numbers!
To: glc1173@aol.com
Lucky for my sister and I that my father saw the tide comin in and moved us to Oregon in '75 or thereabouts. I can't imagine living there now without going berserk like in Falling Down. Greak flick BTW.
EBUCK
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posted on
07/01/2002 2:14:06 PM PDT
by
EBUCK
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
For all you firearm owners and people who support the 2nd Amendment in California, you better make your voice heard or move
out of the state.
seen it coming and moved four years ago
best regards
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posted on
07/01/2002 2:23:35 PM PDT
by
dozer7
To: EBUCK
So, you think Oregon is any better, politically, than Kalifornia?
Ri-i-i-ight...
To: newgeezer
Oregon, Shall-Issue CCW
Oregon, Very easy to obtain machine gun permits (non-felon and 500 bucks is all it takes)
Oregon, No proposed 5cent per bullet tax
You make the call with regard to #2.
On other issues though you certainly have a point.
EBUCK
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posted on
07/01/2002 2:34:25 PM PDT
by
EBUCK
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
I moved from Kali to Idaho in 2000. The writing was on the wall in 1999 for an endless stream of anti-gun laws. Although the job market is pretty bad, the cost of living in Idaho is lower than Kali. I'll figure out how to get by with a smaller income. The 'graduated' income tax works both ways. I can retreat to a lower gross income and keep more of what I earn. Less money for the politicians to spend. The really good news: I'm not going to be stuck with higher taxes to make up for the socialist debacle in the Kali government.
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posted on
07/01/2002 3:11:58 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: newgeezer
Nevada is a fine alternative, although the pistol registration in Clark County is offensive, as is having to qualify for CCW on each pistol you might ever use.
The advantages of NV over OR are best summed up as TAXES, Republicans, and sunshine.
To: AnnaZ; HangFire; Lady Jenn; Kithlyara; AZ Spartacus; feinswinesuksass; abigail2; AnneJustice4all; ..
Belles bump
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender; lowbridge
...you better make your voice heard or move out of the state. I did both. I made my voice heard but nobody listened so I moved back to Texas in 1980.
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Given the budget shortfall this year in CA, probably will become law.
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posted on
07/01/2002 4:42:19 PM PDT
by
droberts
To: EBUCK
Getting a machine gun is that easy, sure you're not missing anything?
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posted on
07/01/2002 4:43:21 PM PDT
by
droberts
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
FYI, the 5-cent per round tax is neatly designed to fit federal legislation (doomed, I hope) that would outlaw interstate sales of ammunition.
Nothing is accidental.
As I recall, the federal bill says you must "appear in person" to buy ammunition.
I buy mine from Cascade Ammunition internet...for now.
--Boris
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posted on
07/01/2002 6:18:48 PM PDT
by
boris
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Also on the docket are Senate Bill 682 (Perata) and Assembly Bill 496 (Paul Koretz, D-42), bills that would effectively strip firearms manufacturers of current protection in state law granting them limited statutory immunity from being sued. This limited immunity has been on the books since 1983 and was passed originally to halt greedy trial lawyers who want nothing more than to pad their bank accounts while putting this nation's lawful firearm manufacturers out of business. I'm much more worried about SB 682 and AB 496 than I am about the proposed 5 cent per bullet tax.
As I commented on a previous thread:
It's not that I want to discourage anyone from contacting their legislators in Sacramento, but realistically this bill [SCA 12] isn't going anywhere. Don Pereta and other anti-gun Democrats are posturing with this, because the state budget crisis is forcing the them to reign in their spending spree. So they have to fall back on symbolic gestures to appease their liberal constituencies.
But it takes a 2/3 vote in both houses to put a tax increase like this on the ballot, and the Republicans alone have enough votes to block it. Plus there are several Democrats who know better than to support it.
Besides, the Democrats don't really want this on the November ballot. It would be a gut-check issues for pro-gunners, and would mobilize us and bring us to the voting booths in droves. It would be an absolute political disaster for Democrats in general and Davis in particular.
Ain't gonna happen.
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posted on
07/01/2002 6:37:35 PM PDT
by
dpwiener
To: lowbridge
Bang TTT! &;-)
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