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Mexican military drug running at border
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 1, 2002 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 07/01/2002 2:46:17 PM PDT by Vidalia

By Terence P. Jeffrey © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

U.S. law-enforcement officers in the Southwest are convinced that Mexican military units are crossing the Arizona-Mexico border to aid smugglers in carrying drugs into the United States.

In one incident, says a senior federal law-enforcement officer, a major in the Mexican army was caught at the U.S. port of entry at Naco, Ariz., carrying a detailed drug-smuggling map among his papers. The Mexican officer, said the official, was "coming into the United States and they found the drug-smuggling maps on him that showed all the drop points and trails" that local smugglers used for bringing narcotics into the United States.

The official said that in calendar year 2001, the U.S. government officially recorded 12 separate incidents in which Mexican military personnel crossed over the border into Arizona alone. On some occasions, a Border Patrol officer said, Border Patrol agents actually have arrested Mexican army personnel in U.S. territory.

"Without a doubt" Mexican military have made incursions into Arizona, said the Border Patrol official. "We have actually made arrests of both military and police. And as far as I know in all events the people were released to Mexican custody within 12 hours, as well as returning them with the weapons that they made the incursion with."

'We get slapped down'

When the Border Patrol in the region detains Mexican military personnel the event is placed on a special political track.

"It definitely becomes an international situation where we need to make all the notifications all the way up the chain of command to Washington and to the State Department," said the Border Patrol official. "Once we make the arrest we hand it over to Washington to handle. People from our office will return them back over to Mexico, but that is not really done by the Border Patrol officers without direction from Washington."

Another source said that because federal officials in Washington want to downplay the fact that the incursions are being made by Mexican military the incidents are logged as "military/police" incursions.

Law-enforcement officials in the field are convinced the intruders are Mexican military because they dress in fatigues, act like trained military personnel and frequently drive Humvees, a vehicle used by the Mexican military. This, however, does not necessarily persuade officials in Washington.

"We know that they are Mexican military," said the senior law-enforcement officer. "But officially we are not allowed to say that because every time we say that we get slapped down."

"We look at the Humvees that cross the border as a military vehicle," said the officer. "When we bring up these incidents they're saying in Washington, 'Yeah, maybe they were originally military vehicles but maybe the police have them or maybe the drug cartels have them. You can't guarantee that it was the military.'"

"Other elements of the government want to minimize the whole cross-border stuff," said the official. "It's highly political because of the current status between our governments and the agreements they've made. This doesn't fit in."

"We are out in the field," he said. "We are on the ground, and we know what is going on."

The Border Patrol official confirmed that agents in the field believe the Mexican military incursions are often, but not always, connected to drug smuggling. "I know it has happened in the past that Mexican military have been apprehended in the same areas and locations that narcotics are present."

"That is what has happened in the past," he said. "We don't want to narrow it down to every time. It's just that in a significant number of situations it has been found that that is the case."

On the other hand, this official said, "Often it has been found through interviews that they entered the United States accidentally because they did not know where the line was."

"It has been reported by Border Patrol agents that Mexican military vehicles have been seen with narcotics in them," the Border Patrol official said. "The ones that I am aware of have occurred right on the border with the Mexican military still on the south side. Now, when called upon and questioned it was relayed by their personnel that they had made the seizure already and were planning on just doing whatever they do with it."

"It's quite possible that they were legitimate," he said.

Border Patrol agents and officers working for other federal law-enforcement agencies, however, believe that some of the Mexican military seen frequenting the Arizona border, and making incursions into U.S. territory, are reconnoitering for and protecting drug smugglers and, in some circumstances, carrying the drugs across the border themselves.

A Border Patrol official described one incident in which Mexican military personnel were detected and "seen fleeing south before we were able to make the arrests." When officers investigated the place from which they had fled "narcotics turned up in the area."

So far, the official says, because of this kind of flight, U.S. authorities have not been able to capture Mexican military personnel inside the U.S. while in actual physical possession of narcotics.

"I don't think they want to surrender with narcotics in their truck and that is why it unfolds the way it does," he said.

Law-enforcement officials monitoring the Arizona border are also greatly concerned about the intensity and sophistication of the surveillance that drug cartels do in the region.

"It is an extremely common event where we'll catch drug smugglers with handheld radios, night vision equipment, different maps," said one official. "There is counter-intelligence and counter-counter-intelligence where we are monitoring them monitoring us."

Another official said that they have captured encrypted portable radios from the drug smugglers. U.S. authorities have been able to use these captured encrypted radios to intercept and monitor the smugglers' communications.

In Texas, where military units provided surveillance support for border-security personnel, drug cartel counter-surveillance people monitored the military bases to see when the U.S. personnel were leaving the base to start their surveillance.

In Arizona, drug cartel counter-surveillance people got to know the routines and habits of some U.S. border-security personnel so well that they gave them code names.

In Nogales, Ariz., said an official, an undercover Border Patrol officer, working with local police, discovered that a drug-smuggling ring had placed agents posing as gardeners on the city streets.

"They witnessed an individual," he said, "who poses as a landscaper who watches Border Patrol agents and other law-enforcement vehicles driving down the roads and then gets on his radio and calls and says, 'Hold up on your load. A Border Patrol agent just drove down. He is coming through your area.'"

Another law-enforcement officer referred to a site in Coronado National Monument as "smugglers' ridge." The monument sits right on the border, with the top of the ridge in U.S. territory and the south side of the mountain in Mexico. On that ridge, he says, law-enforcement authorities have "identified 27 different counter-surveillance locations in which people working for the smugglers will spend days observing everything that goes on in the park."

At the bottom of the mountain on the north side is a residence for park rangers. "When the ranger leaves his house, they will report that he left the house and he got in his patrol vehicle, and what road he is driving down."

"If the ranger stops and gets out of his car," he says, "they will report whether he got out with a rifle or without a rifle."

"On specific occasions," he said, "we have had up to 18 Mexican counter-surveillance people in the park at one time. We have seen them within 50 feet of the house. Once when a ranger responded to a sensor hit, one of the counter-surveillance people recorded that the ranger was putting on his pants to respond. In other words, he was looking through the window."

This official described an incident when a ranger stopped two men in a truck because the driver was speeding.

"He found 400 pounds of marijuana in the back of the truck," said the official. "He arrests them, sits them down. There is a radio squawking. He is very fluent in Spanish, so he listens. What the voices on the radio are describing is the actual stop of the vehicle he had just made, where the vehicle is currently parked, what happened to the two people who are handcuffed, where they are sitting, and a description of the ranger."

At times, a special Arizona Army National Guard unit supports federal law-enforcement agents patrolling the Arizona border in the effort to stop drug smugglers and illegal aliens. The National Guard unit, whose members call themselves the Nighthawks, uses special night-vision devices to detect smugglers after dark. They provide the U.S. agents with real-time intelligence on how many intruders have crossed the border and which way they are heading. They also look out for snipers.

But after Sept. 11, officials say, the National Guard was forced to refocus its resources at official ports of entry, minimizing its presence in the more remote areas where the military incursions and the bulk of the smuggling take place.


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Let's send our Unarmed Military to guard our borders....

This weekend I hosted a family friend's Marine son for a couple of days R&R from training.

We ain't talking boot, we're talking real, live fire training exercises, you know, with the stuff that kills people and blows stuff up.

While chatting I asked about the sidearms they were carrying these days, thinking Colt or Baretta.

The answer from a full-on in-the-field Marine was (paraphrasing),

"... We're not issued sidearms ..., we haven't been trained with/for them..., it is rare that we are issued the M-16s except for the qualifying range and the last one I was issued (for the range)... the firing pin was broken... if it were not for my Sergeant, I actually was going to be charged for damaging the rifle... "

First statement. This Marine is a no-alcohol, no-drug, no-nonsense gentleman. More intelligent than the average.

Second statement. The morale is so much higher with GW as CIC than anyone would ever know:  the pay rates were doubled, they have actually received that increase in the their checks, rather than the promises and lies from Clinton styled photo-ops, and many are going to stay rather than give the military "the bird" as soon as possible.

Respect for President George Walker Bush is growing.   More soldiers are telling their families and friends what he has done and is trying to do for them, and to vote to continue the momentum for a stronger military.

Third statement. I find this weapons situation almost unbelievable, have no doubts about this young man's sincerely and truth, but this is shocking. No sidearms during training, regardless of field activity?

Rotation of the rifles is expected, but to be more concerned with charging a good Marine (honors) with the bogus "destruction of Gov't./military property" rather than the source of an ineffective weapon is another absurdity.

This damned sure hits home when you looking a gentleman straight in the eye, knowing he could be killed within a year, son or not.

Are the thousands of Generals across the Pentagon's Board of Assholes so damned arrogant that the military intelligentsia has reached the point that the self-defense of the individual soldier, regardless of station, is no longer a priority?

How absolutely insane is this?   What was the last count?   There are more active pension-greedy generals than active personnel?

Who the Hell is responsible for not giving these 19-21 year olds, the ones who are actually willing to fight and die for this country (rather than just for the Gov't. check they get), any means of self defense other than a pair of military fed pair of legs to try and outrun/dodge the bullets, mortars and bombs of the enemy?

The useless rhetorical baseword "shameful" that is so bandied about by the rhetorical asses in congress is not the word that comes to mind, for there is no shame anymore in the halls of congress.

This sh*t lack of concern by the congress for the lives of our military should be considered CRIMINAL.

This rant may be over, but not the anger at what our guys have to deal with...

1 posted on 07/01/2002 2:46:17 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Vidalia
This lack of proctection on the border by the Bush Administration is criminal. The Bush Administration is obviously looking the other way while the drugs pour over our Southern border. The question is why?
2 posted on 07/01/2002 2:52:51 PM PDT by Kobyashi1942
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To: Vidalia
MPs and a few other select folks are issued sidearms.

The reason why regular soliders aren't issued them is because they figure if for some reason you are ever seperated from your weapon, there are going to be enough dead people laying around and you can pick up one of theirs.

Just a way to save several hundred dollars a soldier.
3 posted on 07/01/2002 2:56:54 PM PDT by Viva Le Dissention
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To: Kobyashi1942; Sabertooth
This lack of proctection on the border by the Bush Administration is criminal. The Bush Administration is obviously looking the other way while the drugs pour over our Southern border. The question is why?

The answer is the New World Order. GWB is looking toward a unified Western Hemisphere Nation,so we must not anger Fox and friends.

Do not be concerned however.Soon the trucks will be rolling all over this nation. No more need to "smuggle across the desert" they will just on drive in courtesy of phase one of the NWO ...NAFTA...

4 posted on 07/01/2002 2:58:46 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Kobyashi1942
This lack of proctection on the border by the Bush Administration is criminal. The Bush Administration is obviously looking the other way while the drugs pour over our Southern border. The question is why?

Perhaps the answer dates back to the first Bush administration, and the period when Panama's Manuel Noriega was a CIA asset controlled by the CIA under then-CIA director George Bush.

-archy-/-

5 posted on 07/01/2002 3:17:49 PM PDT by archy
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To: Viva Le Dissention
Well that sounds like the combining of PC and cuts in the military budget becoming real reverse synergism.... the sum of the parts equals a fat zero for self defense for the individual soldier.

And we are talking MARINES here, not Army grunt desk clerks sitting here on the Continent.

This is an absolute contemptuous insult to all in the service, but especially to those who are usually "FIRST IN".

What was it about the Clinton Injustice department a few years ago purchasing new pistols for the FBI amounting to about $2,500 per agent? PAYBACK for "help"?
6 posted on 07/01/2002 3:21:40 PM PDT by Vidalia
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I depends on his MOS (Military Occupational Specialty).

If he is not in the Infantry or other combat arms MOS, he won't be issued a weapon unless he is training or actually going to a combat zone.

Not every Marine carries a weapon 24/7. The majority of Marines will shoot once or twice a year and that’s it.

7 posted on 07/01/2002 4:24:50 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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Not only that, but the standard rifle for years has been the M-4 and not the M-16A2. The old 16's are hardly used, except by recruits and its quite feasible that most are showing wear.
8 posted on 07/01/2002 4:39:16 PM PDT by SandfleaCSC
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To: SandfleaCSC
True.

9 posted on 07/01/2002 4:41:16 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
He is in active live fire training up in Pohakuloa, HI.

I find it Congressionally disgusting that:
1- I am better armed 24/7 than most active duty Marines (I'm not talking a Davidian arsonal),
2- I hit the range more often,
3- The public, the civilians only hear the whining and bitching about the cutbacks in millions or billions of dollars.

We DO NOT hear about the personal effects/readiness for war that are cut from each soldier.

That is criminal dereliction on the part of Congress.
10 posted on 07/01/2002 5:21:44 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Vidalia
You could pour every dime the US has into the Military, and you would still be better armed and hit the range more often than 75% of the entire Military.

Apparently you never served, or you would know and understand how the Military is run.

11 posted on 07/01/2002 7:02:22 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Kobyashi1942
The Bush Administration is obviously looking the other way while the drugs pour over our Southern border. The question is why?

I think because here just like in Mexico, some politicians are getting very rich from drugs. Tony Sanchez running for governor is buying an election, his businesses did laundering of drug money. I'm sure he's not going to want drugs across Mexico to stop.

12 posted on 07/01/2002 7:11:24 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Kobyashi1942
The Bush Administration is obviously looking the other way while the drugs pour over our Southern border. The question is why?

He doesn't want to alienate hispanic voters.

13 posted on 07/01/2002 8:24:45 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: Vidalia
thank you for posting this; People are so shocked to hear about border incidents. Americans assume that it is a big deal and that we won't tolerate it, etc. But these incidents have been occurring for at least 6 years. There have been shots fired at out people also from the other side resulting in our people just clearing out of some areas for some times, the times when they bring the drugs in of course.

Ex-Border Patrol agents have actually testified in court that they were told to just let some 18 wheelers in without checking them and that their understanding was that these trucks were full of drugs.

14 posted on 07/01/2002 9:24:25 PM PDT by Red Jones
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He doesn't want to alienate hispanic voters.

What a stupid, stupid, stupid strategy. Hispanic voters are just as interested in upholding law and order as the next guy. To assume that his securing the Mexican border against illegal immigrants and drug smugglers would tick of Mexican-American voters is racist in its very premise.

Also, not securing the border alienates wealthy white voters like myself. Senor Bush has lost my financial support, my family's financial support as well as our votes, primarily due to his open border policy.

I guess Carl Rove didn't think that one all the way through.

15 posted on 07/01/2002 9:25:33 PM PDT by Kobyashi1942
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To: Marine Inspector
..."You could pour every dime the US has into the Military, and you would still be better armed and hit the range more often than 75% of the entire Military.
Apparently you never served, or you would know and understand how the Military is run."...


Sir, I doubt, and sincerely hope that the 75% is not the case. You have also questioned my integrity. I enjoy folks who think I am a lowly vegetable... Better armed is understood these days, but more than 75% of the entire Military?

From what year(s) are your comments directed? Why cannot Marines hit more than 25% of targets presented?

Easily, between the lines, the problem is with quality of personnel, not quantity and that will get more people killed.

You're not headed Hurtgen Forest way, are ya?
16 posted on 07/02/2002 12:51:20 AM PDT by Vidalia
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Sir, I doubt, and sincerely hope that the 75% is not the case

Approximately 85% of the Air Force and Navy will never be issued a rifle, let alone fire one more than once or twice a year. As for personal side arms, it’s about the same. Now if they were deployed to a combat area, that percentage my go down a little. Approximately 60% of the Army and Marine Corps are not in the Infantry, who have the majority of the weapons. If you are in a support role and not in combat arms, you would be lucky to qualify with the rifle or pistol once or twice a year. In the Marine Corps, a Marine in the administration MOS’s or any of the other support MOS‘s, would qualify with the fire a rifle and or pistol once a year and may do one or two training exercises, using blanks, once or twice a year. In the Marine Infantry, of which I spent 12 year (7 under Clinton), you would qualify with the rifle once a year and the pistol (depending on your MOS) once a year. As for training, the infantry does a lot, mostly with blanks (cost effective).

You have also questioned my integrity.

Also, I did not question your integrity. I questioned your information. Regardless of how you feel about this Marine friend of yours, his story, in my eyes (a 12 year veteran of the Marine Corps Infantry), does not stand up. It is apparent his is not in the Combat Arms field and he sounds like he does not like his job or the service. If he wanted to shot weapons, he should have gone into the infantry.

From what year(s) are your comments directed?

From 1985 to 1997, and I am still in contact with several of my friends that are still on active duty.

Why cannot Marines hit more than 25% of targets presented?

Please provide your details and facts on this, as it was not in the original post.

17 posted on 07/02/2002 6:51:27 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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These are all moot points since nothing barring an invasion of the borders by China will change the status quo.

My point is that I believe these guys should be armed and they should be able to hit what they are shooting at. FINI
18 posted on 07/02/2002 7:18:36 PM PDT by Vidalia
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It’s not moot, you brought it up.

Again, what information do you have that Marines can't hit what they are shooting at.

The Marines are the best all a round shooters in the Military.

19 posted on 07/02/2002 7:24:16 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Vidalia
bttt
20 posted on 07/02/2002 7:26:08 PM PDT by Don Myers
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