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MY VOTE IS FOR SALE
Vanity | July 4, 2002 | B. A. Conservative

Posted on 07/04/2002 6:16:32 AM PDT by B. A. Conservative

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To: Homer Simpson
I loved the bumper sticker..."Don't blame me, I voted for Kang."
41 posted on 07/04/2002 8:40:43 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: evad
There is no time for incrementalism. The dollar has lost almost nine percent this year and is expected to lose another ten to twenty percent over the next few years. It is not possible to grow the economy sufficiently to keep tax rates constant and pay the unfunded liabilities of Medicare and Social Security. It not politically possible to raise tax rates or cut benefits sufficiently to meet those same unfunded liabilities. The only politically acceptable recourse will be to monetize those liabilities. By 2016 the dollar will be worthless. No country has ever survived the complete devaluation of its money.

Incrementalism is a vote to end the United States before 2016.

42 posted on 07/04/2002 8:42:16 AM PDT by B. A. Conservative
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To: carenot
The next day, Kodos announces the result: "All hail, President Kang."

The field in front of the Capitol has now become a working ground where humans are whipped by aliens and used to carry materials.

The Simpsons family is working too, with Homer and the kids carrying wood, and Marge pushing a wheelbarrow of cinderblocks -- with Maggie on top.

Marge: I don't understand why we have to build a ray gun to aim at a planet I never even heard of.

Homer: Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!
-- "Treehouse of Horror VII"

43 posted on 07/04/2002 8:43:09 AM PDT by Homer Simpson
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To: usconservative
"I'm printing off that contract, and sending it to EVERY one of my Republican representatives from the village, county, state and federal level."

That is exactly what I would like to see every Freeper do as the first step. The second step is to give a copy to your family, friends, and anyone else that will listen. Pass them out as handouts at any meeting, church group, political assembly or public gathering of any kind.

The 1994 Republican Revolution did not result in the saving of our country. It got derailed. Now is the time to put the Reagan Renaissance and the Republican Revolution back on track.

44 posted on 07/04/2002 8:48:15 AM PDT by B. A. Conservative
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To: budwiesest
. Drop paycheck withholding, put everyone on quarterly payments (like me) then sit back and enjoy the next 'peaceful' revolution at the voting booth.

I can't remember the the HR# but Ron has a bill before congress that will do just that.

45 posted on 07/04/2002 8:50:17 AM PDT by carenot
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To: B. A. Conservative
Another nice post, BAC. By term limits, do you mean to limit the number of terms served lifetime, or are you just concerned with back to back terms? If the later, I agree since these guys should really concentrate on the job instead of the next election, but a lifetime limit on terms would be undemocratic.

Someone should have the balls to turn Social Security into Welfare For the Elderly. Anyone who thinks that the gov't owes them all their SS taxes back plus interest at retirement age should realize that the Supreme Court ruled just the opposite in Flemming vs. Nestor in 1960.

People also need to put their money where their mouths are and stop sending their kids to public school, whether or not we have vouchers or an education tax credit.

There can be no moderate position on income, capital gains, property, and estate taxes; they must be completely abolished. Realize that this will be difficult as long as Republican Free-Trade-Uber-Alles types continue to demonize any increase in tariffs or other indirect taxes. Is there anything else we could tax instead? Pot? Raise VISA fees?

I would also suggest that we need to have mandatory military service for 3 years at age 18. Those who don't want to go into the military could serve their time as public servants (White House interns, congressional staff, etc.). There is a serious disconnect between the people and their gov't that causes a near total political ignorance in this country.

46 posted on 07/04/2002 8:52:01 AM PDT by sixmil
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To: Mr. K; B. A. Conservative; BillofRights; christine11
To: B. A. Conservative
I agree with you 100% and heck I have been doing this already.
There has been no one worth voting for in the past so I withold my vote from anyone.
The only two people i have voted for are our Beloved W and Perot.
(yes, Perot - protest vote as the best of 3)
If it were not for Perot, the balanaced budget would never have been discussed,
and eventually obtained.

Other Perot voters out there -
Don't let anyone tell you you threw away your vote-
the 20% of the popular vote scared people in Washington more than you can possibly imagine.
He also talked about whittling the govt down to size, and most of the above agenda...
# 28 by Mr. K

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If those who voted for Ross Perot had simply stayed home,
the Republicans wouldn't have known that the votes they lost were conservative ones.

Statistics showing that voters were unhappy with liberal policies are meaningless;
no one trusts statistics anymore.
The votes for the conservative Ross Perot were solid, provable evidence
of the direction the people wanted to go.

The votes that the Republicans lost to Ross Perot
are directy responsible for the Contract with America,
and the Contract with America is the reason
that the Republicans won their majority in both houses of Congress.

If we don't vote at all, as has been suggested,
Republican's and other socialists will assume
that we won't work to change the direction of our policies.

The only way to send a message to the Republicans
is the way it was done in 1992.

Voting for a third party candidate works.

47 posted on 07/04/2002 9:00:41 AM PDT by exodus
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To: old school
"All sounded well and good until you got to the part about a Constitutional convention.."

The window of time in which there is a real meaningful solution to solving the problems of the unfunded liabilities of the entitlement programs is very short, a decade at the most. Incrementalism has been losing for fifty years, is destined to fail even if we had another century to give it another chance. Unfortunately, there are not many other alternatives. We have the ballot box, a Constitutional Convention, or the bullet box. For me, the choice is easy.

48 posted on 07/04/2002 9:01:17 AM PDT by B. A. Conservative
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To: Homer Simpson
Sure...make me look like I'm a Kang supporter! (see #41) ;^)
49 posted on 07/04/2002 9:21:02 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: carenot; Homer Simpson; B. A. Conservative
To: Homer Simpson
Yep, that is what we were all told.
I keep thinking of Rush saying if we didn't vote for Bush we would get Gore.
I decided to throw my vote away on Harry Browne.
So now we get President Bush.
I reckon I will just keep throwing my vote away.

If I refuse to vote THEY won't know I didn't vote.
I want them to know "they" didn't get my vote.
# 38 by carenot
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It would have been better for our country if Gore had won.

Everyone would have known that the Republicans lost
because they had abandoned the values that won them control of Congress in 1994.

There would have been a groundswell of support
for a rededication to the Contract with America,
and the year 2004 would see a real conservative
in the White House.

50 posted on 07/04/2002 9:26:43 AM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus
"It would have been better for our country if Gore had won."

Ya better get yer bunker coat on. There are flames headed your way!

51 posted on 07/04/2002 9:41:16 AM PDT by TXFireman
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To: bballbob
I agree that the solution begins with term limits. The power of Washington seems to corrupt almost everyone. No matter what campaign promises were made, everything subsequently becomes secondary to getting re-elected.

Yes. We could get away from the professional politicians and back to the citizen/legislator.

Term limits were part of the 'Contract with America'. And sadly it was not fulfilled.

52 posted on 07/04/2002 9:51:59 AM PDT by LibKill
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To: B. A. Conservative
excellent post BUMP!
53 posted on 07/04/2002 10:19:13 AM PDT by christine
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To: carenot
The evils of socialism did not happen overnight..they were inflicted incrementally. Incrementalism is the only strategy that seems to work in the long run.

OK, I'll ask. When did it seem to work? I seem to have forgotten.

Well, as pertains to my comment, I was referring to the systematic strategy of the socialists, aka DemocRATS, to implement their distructive policies over the period of the last 40-50 years.

I would say for them that incrementalism worked very well. I didn't say that it was a good thing.

54 posted on 07/04/2002 10:25:58 AM PDT by evad
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To: goliath
It it the people of the United States who put these people in Washington. Surely they are to blame.

after the last election and the obvious vote fraud that occurs in our "free" elections, i am not so sure of that.

my biggest disappointment. from the get-go. with bush and the republicans is that they have chosen not to address this MOST important issue. if the people have no faith or suspect vote fraud, why should they vote? why haven't the republicans done something about this? why do they want to leave things status-quo? won't the crooks fine tune the deception and fraud next time?

i have little faith, at this point, of the power of my "vote."

55 posted on 07/04/2002 10:32:01 AM PDT by christine
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To: TXFireman
hello, fellow austinite! ;)
56 posted on 07/04/2002 10:33:11 AM PDT by christine
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To: elbucko
Do we, that is Conservatives, have the patience?

No..we don't...and that's the problem and why incrementalism doesn't work for conservatives. We see right and wrong and pretty much no compromise in between.

57 posted on 07/04/2002 10:39:53 AM PDT by evad
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To: TXFireman
To: exodus
"It would have been better for our country if Gore had won."

Ya better get yer bunker coat on.
There are flames headed your way!
# 51 by TXFireman
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Thanks, TXFireman.
I've grown accustomized to flames since the election.

58 posted on 07/04/2002 10:42:29 AM PDT by exodus
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To: evad
I would say for them that incrementalism worked very well. I didn't say that it was a good thing.

LOL

Point taken. You're right!

59 posted on 07/04/2002 10:51:21 AM PDT by carenot
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To: B. A. Conservative
Incrementalism is a vote to end the United States before 2016.

Unfortunately, I agree. The RATs have used it to great success over the past 40-50 years and I think it's steadily taking us downhill. Whether or not it's all over by 2016 is just a matter of conjecture.

The fact is that conservatives do not have the patience to use this strategy.

60 posted on 07/04/2002 10:51:56 AM PDT by evad
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