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U.S. Air Force: Israel has 400 nukes, building naval force
World Tribune ^ | 7/4/02

Posted on 07/04/2002 7:51:59 AM PDT by truthandlife

A United States Air Force report asserts that Israel is building a nuclear naval force meant to respond to any nuclear strike by such countries as Iran or Iraq.

It is the first time a U.S. military institution has stated that Israel has produced a hydrogen bomb. The number of purported Israeli nuclear weapons cited in the report is double that of previous assessments.

The report, sponsored by the air force's Counterproliferation Center, asserts that the navy can deploy any of what it asserts is Israel's 400 atomic and hydrogen weapons, Middle East Newsline reported. The center is located in the Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama.

In a report entitled "The Third Temple's Holy of Holies: Israel's Nuclear Weapons," U.S. Army Col. Warner Farr said Israel's nuclear arsenal has grown from an estimated 13 nuclear bombs in 1967 to 400 nuclear and thermonuclear weapons. Farr said Israel's navy could deploy nuclear weapons on the fleet of three German-built Dolphin-class diesel submarines.

"Israel will then have a second strike capability with nuclear cruise missiles, and this capability could well change the nuclear arms race in the Middle East," the report, which Farr said is based on unclassified sources, read. "Israeli rhetoric on the new submarines labels them 'national deterrent' assets."

The report said these nuclear missiles could have a range of 350 kilometers. Israel would try to base its nuclear naval force near Oman, with which Israel has informal relations, the September 1999 report, which was recently published by the center, said.

"The first basing options for the new second-strike force of nuclear missile capable submarines include Oman, an Arab nation with unofficial Israeli relations, located strategically near Iran," the report said.

The U.S. Air Force Counterproliferation Center was established in 1998. The center is meant to help prepare air force commanders counter the threat from weapons of mass destruction. The report did not deem Israel's purported nuclear arsenal as a direct threat to the United States.

The report said Israel's Defense Ministry has requested from the government of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon authorization for a retaliatory nuclear strike. Israel could also use Jordanian air space for a nuclear strike on Iran, which the report said could produce a nuclear warhead as early as 2004.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: hydrogenbomb; israel; navy; nuclearweapons; wmd
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1 posted on 07/04/2002 7:51:59 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
Good for Israel. Hopefully they will teach the Palestinians and other Arab governements a thing or two.
2 posted on 07/04/2002 7:53:57 AM PDT by Conservative Chicagoan
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To: truthandlife
Peace through superior firepower.
3 posted on 07/04/2002 7:58:18 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: truthandlife
Very good. And since external analysts have always erred on the side of caution when it comes to assessing Israel's nuclear capability, let's just hope it's 800 warheads. Or 1600.

4 posted on 07/04/2002 8:12:29 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: truthandlife
As the late, great Teddy Roosevelt said, "Speak softly, but carry a big nuke".

Leni

5 posted on 07/04/2002 8:17:47 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: truthandlife
400 today, perhaps a few less by next year? Smoke em if ya got em.
6 posted on 07/04/2002 8:26:16 AM PDT by Sender
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To: truthandlife
Let the arab countries put that in their hookahs and smoke it.
7 posted on 07/04/2002 8:27:15 AM PDT by LibKill
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To: truthandlife
A single use of a WMD by an arab country should neccessarily mean use of all the 400 such weapons against all Islamic countries. This should be an adequate deterrent against any suicide bombers . But hey - that would mean half a billion people will be bonking 36 billion virgins assuming 72 for each male vaporised!
8 posted on 07/04/2002 8:27:41 AM PDT by anu_shr
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To: TADSLOS
Then why isn't Israel at peace? They have, and have proved, superior regional military might.

A better question: Who or what is to stop Israel from taking and occupying more land from Syria, Jordan, and Egypt? Not that they would, mind you.

9 posted on 07/04/2002 8:30:18 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: anu_shr
But hey - that would mean half a billion people will be bonking 36 billion virgins assuming 72 for each male vaporised!

Yeah, but does getting nuked in asecond strike count as martyrdom! We need to check with mufti's on that.

10 posted on 07/04/2002 8:38:48 AM PDT by PsyOp
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To: truthandlife
Kool!
11 posted on 07/04/2002 8:39:07 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: truthandlife
The Israelis have grasped a very simple principle; it's good to be an ally of the United States, but it's lethal to be our dependent. Ask the Shah, South Vietnam, Cambodia....
12 posted on 07/04/2002 8:39:15 AM PDT by Grut
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To: truthandlife
Incidentally, so much for Jeremiah 8:22.
13 posted on 07/04/2002 8:45:15 AM PDT by Grut
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To: truthandlife
350 km is not a very long rang. The could not even hit Tehran with these cruise missles.
14 posted on 07/04/2002 8:45:29 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: truthandlife

It is the first time a U.S. military institution has stated that Israel has produced a hydrogen bomb.

The explosive yield of these devices is in the Megatons.

It's certain Israel now has the means to completely wipe out ALL of the Arab world.

15 posted on 07/04/2002 9:06:19 AM PDT by crypt2k
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To: robertpaulsen
Then why isn't Israel at peace?

It's better than extinction

Who or what is to stop Israel from taking and occupying more land from Syria, Jordan, and Egypt?

U.S. Foreign Policy and standing agreements with those countries. From a purely military standpoint, there isn't much in their way except numbers (of arabs) and world opinion.

16 posted on 07/04/2002 9:10:36 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: truthandlife
Here are a few other FR related links:

New German submarine reaches Israel

Israel - Submarine: What in the world is going on?

Israel steps up submarine acquisition

Israel Moves - Quickly - To Beef Up Its Submarine Force

Israel Makes Nuclear Waves With Submarine Missile Test
17 posted on 07/04/2002 9:10:52 AM PDT by PA Engineer
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To: truthandlife
FYI: have read/heard that the raw mat'ls for these bombs were obtained illegally and/or by theft-lots from U.S.. BUT HEY, what's a little espionage against us by an ally?!
18 posted on 07/04/2002 9:12:58 AM PDT by 1234
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To: truthandlife
The Samson Option-- what is known about Israel's Nuclear Weapons?
19 posted on 07/04/2002 9:19:47 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: MinuteGal
What was it that old black & white joke photo had the old man in it saying . . .

"Speak stickly and carry a big soft!"???
20 posted on 07/04/2002 9:35:27 AM PDT by Quix
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To: anu_shr
Guess they just don't believe Jesus when He said there was neither marrying nor giving in marriage in Heaven. . . . or Paul when he said that in Christ there's neither male nor female, Jew nor Greek . . .

Though I guess someone running around with explosives pasted all over their body is not likely to be easiliy distracted from fantasies about 27 virgins.

At least they are unlikely to be concerned about 27 women the next morning whining about the breaking in process. . . oh, maybe that doesn't happen in Heaven?

So it's Heavenly flesh in one way but not in another. Interesting convoluted logic . . . if "logic" is even remotely an Arabic concept.
21 posted on 07/04/2002 9:39:41 AM PDT by Quix
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To: truthandlife
Cool.
That's 10 for every major Muslim capital, and 100 or so left over for Mecca and Medina to share...
22 posted on 07/04/2002 9:49:44 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: 1234
FYI: have read/heard that...

FYI: I have heard/read that the most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity...
And your point is?

23 posted on 07/04/2002 9:53:12 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: BigBobber
350 km is not a very long rang. The could not even hit Tehran with these cruise missles.

Most people think the Popeye derivative has a longer range. Besides, langhed from an Israeli sub in the India Ocean or even Persian Gulf, Iran could be hit hard.

24 posted on 07/04/2002 9:59:46 AM PDT by rmlew
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To: Publius6961
It would be interesting if their inventory had a supply of neutron bombs. Nuke the oil-bearing areas, then immediately invade and occupy
25 posted on 07/04/2002 10:00:45 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: 1234
And others say that we let Israel have teh material in an unoficial way.
Othjers say that Israel and South Africa worked together, using SA uranium.
26 posted on 07/04/2002 10:01:12 AM PDT by rmlew
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To: Cachelot
let's just hope it's 800 warheads. Or 1600.

Yes, because before long, WE will be asking THEM for protection. They have the will to get the job done.

27 posted on 07/04/2002 11:24:14 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: 1234
FYI: have read/heard that the raw mat'ls for these bombs were obtained illegally and/or by theft-lots from U.S.. BUT HEY, what's a little espionage against us by an ally?!

Did you hear/read about this at a KKK meeting or in their newsletter?

28 posted on 07/04/2002 12:41:48 PM PDT by BenF
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To: 1234
FYI: have read

You can read text containing Big Words? Like "obtained"??

Why don't you go back to buffing your camel? Or is that "boffing"?

29 posted on 07/04/2002 1:09:27 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: truthandlife
Just 400? Damn I was hoping they would have at least 4000.
30 posted on 07/04/2002 1:15:30 PM PDT by Classicaliberalconservative
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To: Classicaliberalconservative
LOL Iraq must be destroyed because it is building "weapons of mass destruction"

Of course in the case of Israel it is simply ^^ bombs away. Utter hypocrisy.
31 posted on 07/04/2002 1:25:22 PM PDT by Pythagoras
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To: Pythagoras
"Did you hear/read about this at a KKK meeting or in their newsletter?"

Welcome to the United States of Israel.

32 posted on 07/04/2002 1:26:47 PM PDT by Pythagoras
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To: anu_shr
But hey - that would mean half a billion people will be bonking 36 billion virgins assuming 72 for each male vaporised!

With all that bonking going on the same time might it not throw the earth off its axis? ;-)

33 posted on 07/04/2002 1:26:57 PM PDT by varon
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To: Pythagoras
Pythagoras = Wahhabi Lobby member since may 22, 2002
34 posted on 07/04/2002 1:57:34 PM PDT by PA Engineer
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To: truthandlife
As I said on the reposting of this item, all I can think of is:
Oh we can be thankful and joyful and proud,
that man has invented a mushroom shaped cloud.
And we know for certain that some lucky day,
someone will set the spark off,
and WE WILL ALL BE BLOWN AWAY.




35 posted on 07/04/2002 1:57:38 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Pythagoras
Saddam uses chem weapons against his own people the same week that they're made.

Israel has had the bomb for 35 years and hasn't used it once.

Do you see a difference?

Israel maintains a second-strike policy. So does the US, UK, Russia, France, Australia, Canada, India, and South Africa. Saddam wants first-stike power capability. Big difference.
36 posted on 07/04/2002 2:14:13 PM PDT by jae471
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To: Pythagoras
Welcome to the United States of Israel.

Hey, Polincoid? Follow your leader. Just remember a tarp so you don't slime everyting.

37 posted on 07/04/2002 2:57:50 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Grut
The Israelis have grasped a very simple principle; it's good to be an ally of the United States, but it's lethal to be our dependent.

Very good.

38 posted on 07/04/2002 7:35:36 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Pythagoras
Utter hypocrisy

Only if you believe the pretext to be true, which it isn't.

39 posted on 07/04/2002 7:37:30 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: truthandlife
In a report entitled "The Third Temple's Holy of Holies: Israel's Nuclear Weapons," U.S. Army Col. Warner Farr said Israel's nuclear arsenal has grown

FYI Farr's "report" was written in 1999.

40 posted on 07/05/2002 11:50:33 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Classicaliberalconservative
Israel is surrounded and outnumbered by enemies bent on its destruction. They are descended from an ethnic group that was nearly systematically exterminated not only culturally but genetically. They continue to be hated by many in the world even today. They have never used nuclear weapons, it is a deterrent to hordes of Arabs invading and wiping out their people. Saddam Hussein wants ONE thing, and that is to use Weapons of Mass Destruction for terrorism against Israel and the United States.
41 posted on 07/08/2002 9:26:49 PM PDT by Classicaliberalconservative
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To: anu_shr
Wow! 36 Billion Virgins! But are they no longer virgins after the first time are do a new supply of 36billion appear instantly?
42 posted on 08/28/2002 8:59:22 AM PDT by College Repub
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Let us hope that this 400 is just the major warheads.

I certainly hope we have at least 4000 or so of the little so-called neutron-bomb, tactical nukes as well.

43 posted on 08/28/2002 9:07:23 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: truthandlife
The writer in me can envision a positively evil scenario in which the US could take care of the problem that is Iraq without expending a fortune on a military campaign.

Any FReeper guesses on what that might be?

44 posted on 09/26/2002 9:39:05 AM PDT by tracer
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To: Quix
Nobody has said that the "martyrs" will marry the virgins in question.....
45 posted on 09/26/2002 9:41:49 AM PDT by tracer
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To: anu_shr
Israel won't shoot off everything because of one attack. However, if the enemy has made serious gains and is close to destroying Israel, then the weapons will be used as a last resort. The purpose won't be to save Israel, because Israel will already be lost, but to destroy the enemy. No winners. Guaranteed.
46 posted on 09/26/2002 9:43:55 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Publius6961
FYI: I have heard/read that the most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity...

And your point is?

FLAG! Tweeeeet!

Dead ball! Personal foul, unnecessary roughness; Number 6961 on the offense.

That's a fifteen yard penalty. Repeat first-down.

;-)

47 posted on 09/26/2002 9:46:51 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: anu_shr
The MAD doctrine IMHO won't work against insane arab leaders that are ......Mad.

I agree on trashing any "individual" country that does launch WMD "first" be they chemical, biological or nuclear.

Slap em down like the mad dogs they are.......

Stay Safe !

48 posted on 09/26/2002 9:54:26 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: MinuteGal
WELLL, evidently Dashole speaks stickly and carries a small soft.
49 posted on 09/26/2002 10:19:27 AM PDT by Quix
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To: Grut
Jer 8:22 has had it's validity and may again for a time. Ultimately there will be much balm for Jacob's seed. Alas, less for significant chunks of Ismael's though his too are slated for eventual blessing. Not until they accept God's decrees on the associated matters, however.
50 posted on 09/26/2002 10:23:46 AM PDT by Quix
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