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Mark Steyn- Message from America: we're independent
The Sunday Telegraph (U.K.) ^
| 07/07/2002
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 07/06/2002 4:57:52 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Little Bill
LLoyd FFrench perhaps?;^)
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posted on
07/06/2002 9:17:11 PM PDT
by
Kermit
To: Kermit
James, actually, Richard, middle name, JR was his nick the R stood for Rag, changed FFrench to Smyth, Smith, strange fellow.
To: Texaggie79
Thanks for the ping.
To: Pokey78
Oooh, I enjoyed reading that!
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posted on
07/06/2002 10:27:25 PM PDT
by
Sunsong
To: Norvokov
As an economist; you are so right on you should be encased in bronze. The biggest mistake Bush, the younger, has made is the tariff decision. I know, as empirical facts that open border in trade and in labor benefit everyone, and especially the US (only security should be a concern, which, sadly, is now). This one decision, if anything, will be his undoing even if the majority doesn’t understand simple economics. And, I'll even place a bet on it. Anyone want to take me up?
clark@fan.net
Don't get me wrong, I love GWB, but free-trade is sacrosanct and should never, ever be violated, (even Clinton got religion when he was shown how things really worked). There are powerful interests, and not so powerful, like me, that watch trade legislation like hawks. It’s more powerful than even you intelligent readers give it credit. And the reason is simply: IT MAKES EVERYONE: YES, EVERYONE, BETTER OFF; i.e.: RICHER!
Regards,
Clark
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posted on
07/07/2002 2:05:48 AM PDT
by
clarkca
To: clarkca
Welcome to FR. One tariff on steel does not make for much compared to the massive tax hikes of the Clinton Admin. And it is a limited tariff. As far as emulating the Europeans and their socialist economies... that does not make economic sense.
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posted on
07/07/2002 2:51:59 AM PDT
by
KeyWest
To: KeyWest
"One tariff on steel does not make for much compared to the massive tax hikes of the Clinton Admin. And it is a limited tariff." Two words: Softwood Lumber
To: Pokey78
Thanks, Pokey. Steyn nails it!:
But America is also a historical anomaly: the first non-imperial superpower. It has no colonies and no desire for any. For almost 60 years, it's paid for the defence of the West virtually single-handed while creating and supporting structures - the UN, Nato, G8 - that exist only to allow its "allies" to pretend they're on an equal footing. For "allies", read dependencies: it's because the US provides generous charity defence guarantees that the European governments have been free to fritter away their revenues on socialised health care and lavish welfare. The non-arrogance of Washington is unparalleled in human history: it's American muscle that tames Bosnia but it's the ludicrous Paddy Ashdown who gets to swank about the joint playing EU viceroy. In Washington, meanwhile, cooler assessments are being made. America knows now what multilateralism boils down to: after September 11, Nato invoked its famous Article Five - an attack on one member is an attack on all - and, even as the declaration was rolling off the photocopier, a big chunk of America's nominal allies were insisting it didn't mean anything. There's no point pooling resources with people who have no resources to pool. There's no point getting together and forming a whole that's less than the sum of your individual part.
If that sounds "arrogant" to Europe, well, do something about it. You don't want Bush to topple Saddam? Fine. Sign a mutual defence pact with him. You like Yasser that much? Send your mythical Rapid Reaction Force to guard Ramallah. That's what real powers do. But sneering civil servants being patronising about colonials isn't going to cut it. That argument was settled in 1776.
To: MeeknMing; clarkca; Pokey78
Unfortunately, on the European side, it's the very concept of independence that's at issue. The Rest Of The West disputes not America's positions so much as its right to have positions. To do so is "unilateralist" - which is, when you think about A little item I found this morning pointing out that Europe's disdain of USA goes back a long way:
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19th-Century Fashion and the Sewing Machine
The notion of mass-produced clothing, cheap and well made and available to all, is peculiarly American. Perhaps nothing affronted old-fashioned European ideas of caste and class so flagrantly as the fact that by 1900 or so, a poor factory girl in America who worked six days a week in the same rough dress could, if she liked, wear store-bought silks or laces on Sundays. Or that an illiterate immigrant, if he had the cash, could go from Ellis Island to Broadway and after a few hours of shopping transform himself into a plausible-looking American.
In his essay "A Democracy of Clothing," in "The Americans", Daniel Boorstin observes that even by the middle of the nineteenth century, long before there was much of a garment trade, foreign visitors to the United States fretted about the upstart sartorial habits of the lower classes. As one British merchant complained in the mid-1850s: "You meet men in railroad-cars, and on the decks of steamboats, rigged out in super-fine broadcloth and white waistcoats, as if they were on their way to a ballroom, and common workmen you find attired in glossy black clothes while performing work of the dirtiest description."
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posted on
07/07/2002 7:39:53 AM PDT
by
maica
To: maica
Jealousy is a pretty wasteful way to spend one's time, isn't it? They'll
never figure it out. (I hope I'm wrong, tho).
To: Pokey78
Minus the typographical errors, that article was brilliant.
To: Pokey78
Ping me too, boss!
To: Smile-n-Win
Will do.
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posted on
07/07/2002 1:50:44 PM PDT
by
Pokey78
To: MeeknMing
"Jealousy is a pretty wasteful way to spend one's time, isn't it? They'll
never figure it out. (I hope I'm wrong, tho)."
A politician (maybe Lincoln) once said something like "you'll never go wrong underestimating the intelligence of the average voter." This certainly seems to apply equally to the politicians of Europe. I think we in the U.S. could really rub it in if we began to refer to THEM as the colonies! Man, I bet they would be steamed!!
Love your posts,
Gary
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posted on
07/07/2002 6:37:11 PM PDT
by
Chu Gary
To: Pokey78
Send your mythical Rapid Reaction Force to guard Ramallah.LOL.
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posted on
07/07/2002 6:56:43 PM PDT
by
Stentor
To: Chu Gary
Thanks, FRiend.
There was an article posted yesterday I think you might want to see.
There was a video link of George Michael, too. I'll try to find it for ya......
To: Chu Gary
To: Pokey78
Bump! One of his best.
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posted on
07/08/2002 6:36:11 AM PDT
by
dead
To: dennisw
Bump to read again.
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posted on
12/22/2002 12:25:00 PM PST
by
ex-Texan
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