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Stop Music For Free, Pleads Record Industry
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | July 10, 2002 | Paul Majendie

Posted on 07/10/2002 1:02:19 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The record industry pleaded on Wednesday with consumers to stop downloading and recording music for free because piracy was strangling the multi-billion-dollar industry.

Profits have plummeted, especially in Europe. CD sales in Germany last year were 185 million whereas the number of blank CDs used to copy music was estimated at 182 million.

Record executives also believe there are now more unauthorized music files available on the Internet than at the height of Napster ( news - web sites)'s success in the field.

"Music for free means less new music, fewer new artists, less choice, thousands less jobs," said Jay Berman, head of the industry's main trade body, the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI).

Electronic music composer Jean Michel Jarre, who has staged spectacular sound and light shows around the world, fervently agreed, telling reporters: "If music is to continue to support the livelihoods of artists, it cannot be taken without the permission of artists."

They were speaking at a news conference in Brussels to mark the IFPI Platinum Europe Awards that are staged every two years to give out record industry "Oscars ( news - web sites)" to artists who have sold over one million albums across the continent.

The industry may be celebrating the bestsellers but it is clearly alarmed.

John Kennedy, President and Chief Operating Officer of Universal Music International, warned: "If the prevailing music for free mentality is left unchecked, record companies will no longer be able to re-invest up to 15 percent of their revenues in discovering and nurturing the Platinum artists of the future."

IFPI sales figures for 2001 showed a five percent fall in the value of recorded music worldwide to $33.7 billion. Among the steepest falls were in Europe -- Denmark was down 19 percent and Austria 10 percent.

Kennedy, speaking to Reuters afterwards, said the figures speak for themselves.

"In 2000 in America, seven albums sold more than five million copies. Since then, none has sold more than five million copies," he said, putting the fall down to consumers who spurn the record stores and search elsewhere to get their music for free.

Kennedy said Irish supergroup U2 sold 10 million copies of their first Greatest Hits compilation album. The second volume is due out this year and he wondered: "Are these figures still attainable?"


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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Yeah sure...."music" *snicker

Just yesterday at a stoplight I was carried away on the rhapsodic melodies of some witty lyricist whose artsong was booming from the speaker of a soon-to-be-deaf person's 4 cylinder lowrider: "Gonna F* you up you F*ing F*..." followed by more F*s.

Watch your back Cole Porter, there's talent in those crayons!

21 posted on 07/10/2002 1:25:57 PM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"Music for free means less new music, fewer new artists, less choice, thousands less jobs," ...

More doesn't mean better. If the record companies would release albums with 15 worthwhile songs instead of the hit song and a whole bunch of crap formula we've been fed, more people would pay for albums.

22 posted on 07/10/2002 1:26:17 PM PDT by jz638
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To: BrooklynGOP
I agree. Those who are in it for the money will leave the music scene, while the true artists will stay. Good.

I strongly DISAGREE!

The basis of all capitalism is that those who create MUST be well-paid for their hard work, talent and sweat. No one here begrudges Bill Gates the fruits of HIS efforts. Songwriters deserve the exact same potential pot of gold at the end of their rainbows as book authors, software designers and inventors.

I'm always surprised and dismayed when conservatives, who will fight to defend the rights of venture capitalists, and inventors, and innovators, and entrepenuers to be as well payed for their efforts as the markets will allow... these same "conservatives" then want artists to give it away for free.

Stealing is stealing. Stealing music is not one molecule different than going into Barnes and Noble and swiping a book, or strealing a sweater from a dept store.

Shame on some of you guys.

23 posted on 07/10/2002 1:27:33 PM PDT by berned
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
You are too sensible. These people are afraid of "buggy whip industry" mentality. As if the industry was terribly affected by recordable cassette tapes.
24 posted on 07/10/2002 1:28:57 PM PDT by Allrightnow
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To: berned
omn #23, "well payed", should of course be "well PAID".
25 posted on 07/10/2002 1:29:13 PM PDT by berned
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To: berned
Big difference. Microsoft continually updates and enhances their products. A warezed copy of Windows you can't register and update is worthless. This problem is unique to recorded music, which is a tiny fraction of musicians' incomes and activities. The RIAA and record companies do not deserve our suport.
26 posted on 07/10/2002 1:30:37 PM PDT by eno_
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To: truenospinzone
I beg to differ. There is an incredible amount of quality music being made today, in many, many different genres. It just isn't being played on the radio or pushed by major labels. The smaller artists who are exposed to a larger audience by file-sharing networks are the ones making incredible music, and they benefit from the current environment. THAT's what terrifies the execs right now.

You are so right.  One of my newest favorite bands is a bunch from Oklahoma called Cross Canadian Ragweed.  They enjoy a huge following in OK and Texas despite never seeing any radio airtime.  There is a ton of great music out there, you just have to realize that you aren't going to get it from the radio or the big labels.

27 posted on 07/10/2002 1:32:51 PM PDT by FatherTorque
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"If the prevailing music for free mentality is left unchecked, record companies will no longer be able to re-invest up to 15 percent of their revenues in discovering and nurturing the Platinum artists of the future."

LOL - Reinvesting 15% into their own greedy pockets more like it.

28 posted on 07/10/2002 1:33:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: N. Theknow
So what is the best way to capture streaming music?

Soundcapture v1.0

It is free too... Do a google search for it...

30 posted on 07/10/2002 1:35:44 PM PDT by LowOiL
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To: Drew68
The music biz is is in its death-throes.

Well, it's changing, anyway. Along with books and eventually maybe even movies, the age of super-corporations keeping a stranglehold on all uses of content (example: Disney still having all rights to that mouse, decades after Walt is dead) are going away.

Something will take its place. Hopefully that something will be more creative and give a chance for little guys to make a few bucks, even if it doesn't produce the same number of millionaires and billionaires anymore.

31 posted on 07/10/2002 1:38:05 PM PDT by irv
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
The problem is not the fact that we can get copies of music from the Net. The problem is that the music industry is in its worst era. It has NO direction. It has sent itself to Rap Hell over the last four years. And, now because 99% of all the new songs have the same beat and similar wording, NO ONE WANTS TO SPEND $ FOR JUNK!

But, its sooo darned easy to blame copiers rather than the entire screwed up industry.

Most of us want originals even if we have copies, if its someone we really like. But, the potheads who run the industry are getting old now. They've lost their touch, and back when MTV helped the industry, things were really booming. But, have you seen MTV lately? What a crock! What a waste of electricity! MTV SUCKS! THE entire recording industry SUCKS even more!

32 posted on 07/10/2002 1:38:33 PM PDT by SamBees
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To: Lowelljr
Soundcapture v1.0

I'll have to give that one a try, right now I've got at least 100 excellent stations bookmarked on Winamp, and most of them are commercial free.

33 posted on 07/10/2002 1:39:32 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: eno_
Your note # 26 makes no sense. You didn't address anything I wrote in # 23. I'll re-iterate what I said. Stealing is stealing. Stealing music off the internet that you didn't pay for is ZERO DIFFERENT than stealing a sweater from a dept store.

I grew up in the 60's. I paid for every album I ever had. It didn't hurt me none. Some albums were great, some sucked and I kicked myself for spending the money. You live, you learn.

Enabling people to steal an artists music will do nothing except force the best artists to do something else so they can make a living.

If you guys, in your fantasies, actually BELIEVE that part-time hobbyists, willing to make music for free as a labor of love, will make memorable music, you are truly living in a dream world. The music turned out by non-professionals is invariably CRAP.

34 posted on 07/10/2002 1:39:53 PM PDT by berned
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To: berned
RIAA is a bunch of vultures. They'd make Suge Knight look like Mister Rogers.
35 posted on 07/10/2002 1:40:51 PM PDT by ServesURight
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; berned
Tom, the Dancing Bug:


36 posted on 07/10/2002 1:42:35 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Greeklawyer
this needs an ecconomic solution.

Agreed. The problem is that it exists, but the recording industry will probably not take advantage of it. With MP3 pirating, Internet radio and used CDs all opening up other avenues for obtaining music, it's clear that the market will no longer bear current new CD prices. Unless the industry heeds these signs and lowers prices or offers more bang for the buck, it will continue to lose out. It's called capitalism.

37 posted on 07/10/2002 1:44:57 PM PDT by Polonius
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To: berned
The basis of all capitalism is

Irrelevant to discussions of art. I write and play music for the love of doing it. I've never made a dime off of what I do. It would be nice if I could, but that's life. I do it anyway.

Stealing is stealing. Stealing music is not one molecule different than going into Barnes and Noble and swiping a book, or strealing a sweater from a dept store.

So, you've never hummed a song you liked? Never sung the words or picked it out on a musical instrument? Every one of those actions is an unauthorized copy, substantially more difficult to make than copying a file, but also free.

When you hum, or sing, or play something, does anyone hear you? Have you ever taught it to anyone else? By your reasoning, this makes you a thief. Stop throwing stones. Your house is glass.

38 posted on 07/10/2002 1:47:22 PM PDT by irv
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
This is true, no one has to buy a book or newspaper, or even internet service if they don't want to. Just go to the library, it's free.
39 posted on 07/10/2002 1:48:22 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: berned
Give up, they won't listen to you. I've had this arguement before. Because the record industry is "evil" the music should be free. They completely ignore all property rights, they don't even understand how album sales push concert ticket sales. Notice how much everybody is complaining about the terrible "price" of $12 to $17 for a CD... which of course has been the price consistently for 15 years and that $12-$17 just ain't worth what it was when that became the price, but it's still "too much" and has to come down. All that matters is that the RIAA is EVIL and needs to go out of business.

Luckily that's not going to happen. Piracy will cost them more because it's easier, but in the end the record industry will weather the storm, though it will probably mean even less money for the artists. But they'll get through, it's just a matter of adjusting, and waiting for those over inflated Michael Jackson style contracts to expire.
40 posted on 07/10/2002 1:49:49 PM PDT by discostu
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