Million Moms Submitted Inaccurate Statements to the Internal Revenue Service

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Million Mom March Foundation Form 990, Year 2000

Evidence of Inaccurate Statements to the Internal Revenue Service

1. Form 990, Line 81, report of zero political expenditures (chief issue)

2. Schedule A, Part VI A, Line 37. MMM says it made no efforts to influence legislation (major issue)

3. Schedule A, Part VI A, Line 38. MMM says it did not engage in any lobbying.

4. Further evidence that the MMM Foundation's fiscal 2000 tax return is a real whopper
   • Andrew Cuomo's HUD implicates the Million Mom March

   • Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs (LOGA) provides very damning evidence

   • Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) with proof that the MMM was attempting to influence legislation

Form 990, Line 81, report of zero political expenditures

Line 81 reports zero for "political expenditures, direct or indirect, as described in the instructions for line 81." There is plenty of evidence that the Million Mom March Foundation made political expenditures during the period covered by this Form 990. My previous letters to this IRS address document this organization's efforts to influence the 2000 elections in considerable detail, and they included copies of its own Internet Web pages plus (I believe) pages from Albert Gore's site.

As a recap, the Million Mom March's Mother's Day rally— which almost certainly had to have used some of the funds covered in the Form 990— in Washington DC was, as I believe the NRA's American Rifleman magazine put it, "a thinly-disguised campaign rally for Albert Gore." The National Rifle Association is not an objective source, but plenty of other evidence, including the MMM's own Web site at the time plus the Gore site corroborate this.

 

1. In April 2000, the Million Mom March's Web site claimed tax-exempt status while giving "apple pie" awards to Representatives Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY), Joe Hoefel (D-PA) and Connie Morella (R-MD) and putting Tom DeLay (R-TX) in the "time out chair."

2. Election-related speeches were given by and on behalf of politicians at the Mother's Day Rally. This material was taken directly from speech transcripts that were posted on the Million Mom March's own Web site. It's convincing evidence that there was a concerted effort at the Mother's Day Rally, which almost certainly used 501(c)(3) tax-exempt funds, to influence the November elections. A slip of the tongue by one speaker could have been construed as an accident, and something not sanctioned by the event's organizers. Had this been the case, the organizers would of course have reminded the other speakers that electioneering was not appropriate at a tax-exempt activity. Slips of the tongue by at least six speakers, including at two House candidates (Rush and McCarthy) and Maryland's lieutenant governor? I don't think so.

• Excerpt from Elizabeth Wright (Coalition to Stop Gun Violence), advocating the defeat of George Bush: "We will translate the incredible energy and enthusiasm generated by this Million Mom March into power at the voting booth in November. We will organize to elect state and local representatives who will advocate sensible gun control legislation. We will make sure that the NRA does not have an office in the White House come November!"

• Excerpt from Rabbi Eric Yoffie's (Union of American Hebrew Congregations, also 501(c)3 tax-exempt) speech urging the election of Albert Gore: "We are ready for a knockdown, drag-out, no-holds barred battle against the NRA - which is the real criminal lobby in this country, and which is drenched in the blood of murdered children. Sure, we may not have the money of the NRA, but we've got savvy, grit and passion, and we're going to find out who's getting NRA funds, and who's benefitting from NRA ads, and we're going to vote for the other guy! ..." "The American people, I believe, are ready for a leader who will take on the fanatics and support sensible gun control." (When I last checked, Yoffie's speech was still posted on the UAHC's own Web site.)

• Excerpts from a speech given by Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, lieutenant governor of Maryland. "It is time for Congress to follow the example of courageous leaders like Governor Parris Glendenning, Vice President Al Gore, and Bill Clinton. Today we march with our feet to Washington. In November we will march with our feet to the polling booth!" "Now, let me ask you to join me in a chant that will take us to November: We're going to vote! We're going to vote! We're going to vote!"

• Excerpt from a speech given by Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL). "I want to thank President Clinton for his outstanding leadership on this issue, and the First Lady, and the Vice President." [Ms. Clinton was, of course, running for Senate (NY)] "You're here today, and I tell you, tomorrow, after you leave, this Congress won't be the same. In November this Congress won't be the same. In January, this Congress won't be the same, because of you!"

• Excerpt from a speech by representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY), who also was touted on the "Apple Pie Award" page. "Now you are going to go home, and you're going to talk to your legislators, and you're going to vote for those people that stand up for the rights that we believe in -- in making this a safer country for all of us!" "I thank you for coming here. Now go home, and you make the difference. Get out and vote! And bring ten people with you. Get out and vote! And vote for those that stand with you on your issue, and we will beat the NRA!"

• Excerpt from the speech by Reese Witherspoon: "I want them to go to the polls in November with gun control in mind, and vote for those representatives who are committed to saving this nation from gun violence. It's just that simple."

Then there was the following press release (October 2000):

Million Mom March to the Polls

 

 Million Mom March

 Press Release

 9 October 2000

 CHICAGO, 9 October 2000 (PRNewswire) -- The Million Mom March today challenged the Commission on Presidential Debates to include questions about gun violence and the safety of our nation's children in next week's debate.

 "It was disappointing and disgusting that an issue so important was ignored in the first presidential debate, said Mary Leigh Blek, President of the Million Mom March. "Ten kids die from gun violence every single day in this country. Gun violence is a major public health problem costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars every year.

 The Million Mom March has been organizing chapters across America since its Mother's Day rally earlier this year. More than 750,000 mothers and others marched on Washington and in 73 additional cities in an historic show of force to demand sensible gun laws and safe kids.

 The Moms today announced major get-out-the-vote efforts in key congressional districts including Florida 22nd, New Hampshire 2nd, Connecticut 5th, New Jersey 3rd and 12th, Kentucky 3rd and 6th, Pennsylvania 13th, Ohio 12th, Illinois 10th, Utah 2nd, California 27th and Washington 2nd.

Furthermore, one of the group's regional directors (Katina Johnstone) was herself running for Congress in 2000. See  http://www.evote.com/elections2000/results/NewStates/NY.asp

Albert Gore's own Web site posted photos of Tipper Gore and Senator Barbara Mikulsky (D-MD) in Million Mom March T-shirts at the Mother's Day Rally. The event was therefore used as a photo-opportunity by the official Gore campaign.

If the Internal Revenue Service wants further evidence that the Million Mom March Foundation engaged in electioneering, it should contact the following people at the National Rifle Association. Mr. LaPierre and Mr. McElrath must have impartial and objective evidence to support the following statements (July 2000 issue of the American Rifleman magazine):

•  NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre writes, "The 'hate NRA' theme was only matched by the demand for political action. '…Get out there and use your vote.' 'Support Al Gore.' 'In November, march with our feet to the polling booth.' 'Take us to November. We're gonna vote!' 'We are going to vote, write checks.'"

•  Daniel T. McElrath writes, "The march itself turned out to be a thinly disguised Clinton-Gore rally designed to rouse the flagging interest of the 'soccer moms' whose support the Democrats need in November."

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From: William A. Levinson [address given]

To: Internal Revenue ServiceTE/GE Division, Customer Service

P.O. Box 2508  Cincinnati, OH 45201

certified mail 7099 3220 0008 7131 3687

cc: Wayne LaPierre

11250 Waples Mill Road

Fairfax, VA 22030-9400

certified mail 7099 3220 0008 7131 3694

(Federal Election Commission may also be notified)

         15 July, 2000

501(c)(3) tax exempt Bell Campaign involved in influencing Federal elections

The two enclosed articles by Wayne LaPierre and Daniel T. McElrath indicate that the Million Mom March rally in Washington on May 15 violated Federal tax laws and Federal election laws by campaigning on behalf of candidates for Federal office. (Mr. LaPierre, please send the IRS and FEC any transcripts, videotapes, or eyewitness accounts of the rally that would consitute legal evidence that electioneering took place.) In addition, I previously sent the IRS copies of the Million Mom March's "Apple Pie Award" page, which endorsed House candidates Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY), Joe Hoeffel (D-PA), and Connie Morella (R-NY). The "Time Out Chair" page attacked House candidate Tom DeLay (R-TX).  The Million Mom March had, until a few days before the event, advertised itself as a 501(c)(3) tax exempt organization, and it was also accepting corporate contributions from companies like StrideRite and Guess.

The Million Mom March's Web page, "FORM 990 AND 1023 DISCLOSURE" at http://www.millionmommarch.com/html/who/forms.html says the tax exempt Bell Campaign was a party to this activity: "At the time of the Million Mom March on Mothers' Day 2000, the march was a project of a 501(c)(3) charity called The Bell Campaign." If the enclosed articles by LaPierre and McElrath are accurate, this means a political campaign rally was a project of the Bell Campaign.

The IRS page at http://www.irs.gov/plain/bus_info/eo/eo-faqs.html#12 says, Can tax-exempt organizations endorse candidates for public office?

Whether a tax-exempt organization may endorse candidates for public office without jeopardizing its tax-exempt status depends upon the type of tax-exempt organization it is. For example, § 501(c)(3) organizations may not engage in political activity, including endorsing candidates, but other organizations, such as §501(c)(4) organizations, may engage in political activity so long as that is not their primary activity. However, § 501(c) organizations that make expenditures for political activity may be subject to tax under § 527(f). For more information, download Election Year Issues.

Regards,William A. Levinson

Enclosed:Wayne LaPierre's article [July American Rifleman]

Daniel McElrath's article

Million Mom March tax disclosure page (quoted portion)

Transcript of Rabbi Eric Yoffie's speech, includes apparent pitch for Albert Gore

Transcript of Elizabeth Wright, "We will make sure that the NRA does not have an office in the White House come November!"

The Million Mom March's principal mission was to influence legislation

 

The following is from the Million Mom March's own Web site; I downloaded this in 2000 and kept it on file. It is word-for-word with no alterations, except for the added footnote regarding "12 more children," and the highlighting of the phrase, "specifically they are urging Congress to enact a law requiring that all gun owners be licensed and registered, including mandatory safety training." It is this phrase that I find very difficult to reconcile with the MMM's answer of "no" to Schedule A, Part III, line 1: "During the year, has the organization attempted to influence national, state, or local legislation, including any attempt to influence public opinion on a legislative matter or referendum?"
Contrary again to the answer of "No" to the above question, the Million Mom March defines its primary mission as follows: "The Million Mom March is about common sense gun laws."
 

Million Mom March
Sensible gun laws, safe kids
Backgrounder

Every day, 12 children die from gunshot wounds. Each day there is no action on this issue, we lose 12 more children.  It is the horror of events like Columbine that grab the news headlines, but these daily deaths are even more commonplace than a dramatic school shooting-they are happening in everyone's backyard.

 These children are crime victims; wrong place, wrong time victims; unlocked-and-loaded-in-the-house victims; neighbor accidentally killing neighbor; and suicides...all with one major factor in common: death. Lives are destroyed because a gun fell into the wrong hands.

 The Million Mom March was conceived in the fall of 1999 by a New Jersey Mom who had enough. Donna Dees-Thomases received a wake-up call while watching the footage of the  Granada Hills Day Camp massacre. Her young children were untouched by gun violence, and she was fiercely determined to keep them that way. Her hope was to harness the passion of hundreds of thousands of people who are determined to keep our kids safe.

 Today thousands of women and their families are working together to plan for the national Million Mom March rally on the Mall in Washington, D.C., and the local events and rallies in a number of cities throughout the country, all on Mother's Day, May 14, 2000.

 These mothers, step-mothers, grandmothers, and honorary mothers in this crusade are organizing buses, planes and mini-vans to meet in Washington. And they are pulling together hometown events where they live to spread their message.

 The Million Mom March is not about banning guns. The Million Mom March is about common sense gun laws-specifically they are urging Congress to enact a law requiring that all gun owners be licensed and registered, including mandatory safety training.

 The hope is that this Mother's Day, from every part of the country, a voice of reason will ring out demanding that Congress take action this session.

What Can I Do ? | Coordinator Materials | Travel & Logistics
Media Area | Supporters | Background

(c) Copyright 2000 Million Mom March. All rights reserved.

Further evidence (from sources apparently friendly to the Million Mom March) that the group gave the IRS inaccurate information in Schedule A, Item III, line 1

1. http://www.usmayors.org/uscm/wash_update/crime/momsmarch.htm
• "The mission statement of the Million Mom March says, 'We, the mothers, are calling on Congress to enact common sense gun control legislation by Mothers' Day 2000.'"
2. http://discuss.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/zforum/00/poltalk_051100.htm
• Direct quote of MMM Regional Director Katina Johnstone: "This march is asking Congress to regulate the sale, possession, manufacture and distribution of handguns, which would dramatically reduce the number of gun deaths in this country. With regulation, a ban is not needed.

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The Million Mom March engaged in substantial lobbying even though it told the IRS it didn't.

Note: the Bell Campaign links are no longer online. This information was obtained almost two years ago, but it applies to the Million Mom March's fiscal 2000 statement to the Internal Revenue Service.

1.  http://www.bellcampaign.org/media/NRA_attack.htm: "We demand that Congress take action on the President's request to pass the Gun Show Background Check legislation by April 20, the first anniversary of Columbine. The NRA played a major role in the fact that all gun legislation stalled after Columbine. We also call for licensing of gun owners and  registration of all handguns."
2.  Media release dated September 23, 1999 at http://www.bellcampaign.org/media/million.htm WASHINGTON, DC: Representatives of The Bell Campaign joined Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy (NY- 4),  Congresswoman Connie Morella (MD-8) and Donna Dees-Thomases, founder of the "Million Mom March Mother's Day 2000", today on the steps of the nation's capitol in calling on Congress to pass laws that protect communities from gun death and injury.
3.  Press release dated August 12, 1999 at http://www.bellcampaign.org/media/jccpress.htm. The title is "Bell Campaign Demands Congressional Action." "With yet another gun violence tragedy occurring this week at a Jewish Community Center near Los Angeles, The Bell Campaign calls on the United States Congress to stand up to the gun industry and pass responsible gun laws."
4.  Bell Campaign's attempt to influence Congress on The Safe Streets and Neighborhood Act of 2000 (U.S. H.R. 4051), at http://www.bellcampaign.org/done/maryleighblekhousestatement.htm. (April 6, 2000) "So I am here today to say that calling for the establishment of a grant program to provide incentives for states to enact mandatory minimum sentences will do little to prevent gun deaths and injuries.  More importantly, it will divert money and attention from where it truly belongs.  What we need are comprehensive and common sense gun policies that include consumer product safety protections, especially in design features to prevent child and other unauthorized use. We must address the many loopholes in our current laws that allow for the distribution of firearms to criminals and prohibited classes of persons.  It is way past time to hold gun owners personally accountable and responsible for the  possession of firearms and that means a system where all gun owners are licensed and all guns are registered. …"
5.  Bell Campaign calls on Congress to enact "common-sense gun laws" on April 17. http://www.bellcampaign.org/done/nraadpresresponse.htm "Licensing gun owners and registering guns are just common sense legislation that is way overdue in this country. The Million Mom March is yet another example that the people have had enough of the gun lobby dictating our gun policy.  On Mother's Day 2000 there will be a million moms and others joining with victims in Washington D.C. and in local marches as they call upon Congress to enact common sense gun laws."
6.  Bell Campaign brochure at http://www.bellcampaign.org/images/bellcambro.pdf: "We will demand national, state, and local gun policies to reduce access to guns." In addition, this brochure, as downloaded on June 15, still represents the Bell Campaign as tax exempt. "Your additional tax deductible contribution will advance our mission to prevent gun death and injury, and to support the victims of gun trauma."

Further evidence that the Million Mom March Foundation's fiscal 2000 tax return is far from truthful

http://128.121.250.41/activism/mmm/index.asp (7/6/02) Brady Center testifies that the MMM's tax return is not truthful.
"On Mother's Day, Sunday, May 14, 2000, over 750,000 mothers, fathers and children converged on the National Mall in Washington, DC to let our elected officials know that gun control legislation is needed and the rhetoric needs to end."

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http://archive.nandotimes.com/election2000/story/0,3977,500204245-500283510-501519874-0-nandotimes,00.html (Nando Times archive)
"Hillary Clinton faces mob scene at Million Mom March"     By SHANNON McCAFFREY, Associated Press

 WASHINGTON (May 14, 2000 6:09 p.m. EDT  http://www.nandotimes.com) -
"A crush of media and excited onlookers forced Hillary Rodham Clinton to take a detour shortly after she joined the Million Mom March as it moved along the National Mall on Sunday."
"The Mother's Day march was intended to send lawmakers and the gun lobby a message that American families support stricter gun control laws."

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http://www.zip.com.au/~cpa/garchve2/1002usa.html The Guardian, 31 May 2000
US women rally for gun control

by Tim Wheeler

On Mother's Day 750,000 women rallied in Washington to demand enactment of "sensible gun control" laws. The protesters, many of them mothers holding portraits of their slain children, cheered as speakers called for ousting lawmakers tied to the National Rifle Association (NRA) who block gun control legislation.

Donna Dees-Thomases, Million Mom March initiator, said "Our votes are our power and we will use that in force in the November elections."

...First Lady Hillary Clinton, a candidate for the US Senate from New York, said in a taped message: "We have had enough bloodshed, enough violence. When children are afraid to walk down their own blocks or walk to their own schools ... or even visit neighbours, it is time to say enough!"

I have little doubt that Senator Clinton is involved in this scandal up to her neck if not higher, especially given her connection to Donna Dees-Thomases and her husband's well-known record of "creative" fundraising.

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http://www.hud.gov/library/bookshelf18/pressrel/pr00-230.html Clinton's HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo bears witness that the Million Mom March Foundation filed an inaccurate tax return:

HUD News

HUD No. 00-230
For Release     Tuesday  September 5, 2000 [note: this is outside the period covered by the fiscal 2000 Form 990, but see below-- and I WILL be asking for the group's fiscal 2001 Form 990 to see if it is as "creative" as the fiscal 2000 Form 990]   Or contact your local HUD office

SECRETARY CUOMO, MILLION MOM MARCH ORGANIZERS RENEW CALL FOR GUN SAFETY LEGISLATION

WASHINGTON - On the day Congress started its return to session, U.S. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Andrew Cuomo stood on the steps of the U.S. Capitol with local organizers of the Million Mom March to urge passage of sensible gun legislation that would protect children and keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Joining Cuomo at the event were U.S. Representatives Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC) and James Moran (VA); Handgun Control Inc. President Michael Barnes; Million Mom March board member Beckie Brown; and gun violence victims from DC, Maryland, and Virginia.

"On Mother's Day, hundreds of thousands of mothers cried out that they would no longer tolerate gun violence, and demanded lawmakers to pass laws to stop the epidemic. And no one knows the grim reality of gun-related child mortality better than America's mothers," he added. "As my wife and I stood with America's moms on the Mall that day, we all hoped Congress would end its gridlock on this issue. Sadly, little has changed and the gridlock remains."

As a result of the lack of legislation, Million Mom March leaders today announced November's "March to the Polls," a grassroots effort to elect those candidates who pledge to support gun legislation, and vote against those who do not.

Organizers of today's event say they want Congress to:

     require handgun owners to be licensed and all handguns be registered;
     close the "gun show" loophole;
     limit gun buyers to purchasing one gun a month; and
     require consumer product safety standards for guns.

"On May 14, we called on Congress to enact sensible gun laws for the sake of our children and our nation," said Claudette Perry, local Field Office Director for the Million Mom March. "Now, we renew our call. And if these lawmakers do not listen, we will elect new ones."

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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/121000-01.htm Published on Sunday, December 10, 2000 in the Sunday Times of London
                   Yoko Ono May Help Lead New US Gun Control Campaign      by Tom Rhodes

...However, the NRA is not the force it was. Following a series of shootings in schools, public opinion has started to turn against it. Earlier this year thousands of women in Washington DC took part in a "Million Mom March" against guns, led by Hillary Clinton and the mothers of several children shot dead at Dunblane. Electors were urged to vote against politicians who backed guns.

Their efforts were evident in the results of the November 7 election. Eight out of 12 senators and congressmen deemed to be the staunchest advocates of the gun lobby were resoundingly defeated. Bush failed to win states such as Pennsylvania and Michigan where he had promoted gun ownership as a pillar of his campaign.

My own opinion is that the scandal about misuse of 501(c)(3) tax exempt money by the Million Mom March may have LOST the election for Gore, but that's beside the point. This Web page is for gun control, and it implicates the Million Mom March for telling the public one thing and the Internal Revenue Service something else. And, as I said, Hillary Clinton is probably in this mess up to her neck and, when it hits the fan, she will be a one-term Senator unless she has to resign in disgrace.

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Million Mom ally, Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs, provides damning evidence at http://www.loga.org/MAY00LUMillionMomMarch.htm
LOGA May 2000 Legislative Update

Million Mom March Comes to DC

The Million Mom March (MMM) is a grassroots movement of mothers and others who will march on the Capitol in Washington D.C. on Mothers Day, May 14, to call upon Congress to pass sensible gun legislation. The March will take place at the National Mall between the U.S. Capitol and the Washington Monument. The stage will be close to the Air and Space Museum. Rosie O’Donnell has agreed to be the Master of Ceremonies. An  interfaith service will take place at 10:00 a.m. The rally will begin at noon and will finish by 3:00 p.m.

The MMM is dedicated to the mission of educating and mobilizing concerned families nationwide to seek common sense gun control laws and no-nonsense enforcement of those laws in order to protect our children and our children’s children. The MMM mission statement calls for: 1) cooling off periods and background checks before guns may be purchased, 2) licensing of handgun owners and registration of all handguns, 3) safety locks for all handguns, 4) limiting handgun purchases to one per month per person, and 5) no nonsense enforcement of existing gun laws. Check out the ELCA website  www.elca.org/dcs/communit.html for the message on Community Violence.

ACTION NEEDED: Come to Washington on May 14th. Church Women United is planning a briefing on Monday morning, May 15, after which people will be encouraged to go to the Hill and talk to their members of Congress. Bring your husbands, daughters, sons and friends as well. If you can’t come to Washington, additional marches and events are also scheduled in cities across the nation.

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Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) implicates Million Mom March: (http://levin.senate.gov/photogal/mom514c.gif)

versus this:

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More good stuff:

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[El Sordo]

Whoa! They are in big trouble.

I dare say that this could even bring a strongly worded memo down on them. Perhaps even a mild rebuke.....

At which time the media will totally trash the Bush administration for viciously targeting a motherly public interest group.

[Wu]

Ouch!!!!!!!!!!

[Jagdgewehr]

"Cooling off periods" That one rates right up there with "assault rifles" and "cop-killer bullets."

[mvpel]

This is exactly the kind of information that Jim March and Nadja Adolf used to get the MMM kicked out of their San Francisco General Hospital offices, and undoubtedly part of the reason why they fired all but three of their staff and merged with the Brady Campaign.

[mvpel]

This stuff is from about 2 years ago around the time of their first march, as indicated on this page.

The fruits of these efforts can be noted in the victory of Bush in November of 2000, their ejection from SF General, their layoffs of most of their staff, their merger with Handgun Control Inc. to form the Brady Campaign, and in the size (about 300) of the second MMM march on Washington.

[Benson_Carter]

fix the HTML in this post so that the images work... so we can archive it.

either that or freeze this post, and repost it with the correct image tags and link from this to the new post.

[nothingnew]

The GBM (Gazillion Billion Moms) might be in real trouble...riiiiight.

FMCDH

[Dan from Michigan]

Bill, great work. I'll send the Levin part to Rocky's campaign.

[glc1173@aol.com]

MMM didn't just lie to the IRS; it also lied to the "mainstream" media!

MMM's claims to the "mainstream" media that it got 750,000 contradicted other claims it made in its press kit handed out at the event.

MMM, though, has about disappeared. Two years later, its followup events - in Washington and elsewhere - have been miserable flops. Soros is no longer funding MMM, either - evidently due to its failure to attract a grassroots.

Scandals of antigun activists - including true facts about "Million" Mom March!

[archy]

Complaints filed against the Million Mom March (Bell Campaign) with the Federal Election Commission

Felonies....

-archy-/-

[Terriergal]

Million Moms Submitted Inaccurate Statements to the Internal Revenue Service

GO FIGURE!!!

[Terriergal]

The Million Moms are hopefully in big trouble! Not surprising!

[Terriergal]

Yeah even if someone *did* take advantage of a cooling off period, who says they (if they were buying a gun to kill someone) wouldn't still buy and wait until the next time they got mad at the person?

May as well just ban all guns. Of course that is what they are trying to do.

[general_re]

Heh - they lied and claimed they had a million members who were moms. Turns out they have eleven members, none of them mothers ;)

[Terriergal]

lol!

[Free the USA]

Index Bump

[bert]

Outstanding Effort!!

[lowbridge]

Belles bump

[Djarum]

If a church did this they would lose their tax exemption in a heartbeat.