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What Has Happened To The Music Industry?
7/13/02
| Maryellen Davies
Posted on 07/13/2002 4:55:42 PM PDT by Wondervixen
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To: Wondervixen
I just downloaded most of Bryan Ferry's new album called Frantic, and was amazed that if the artist was called U2, it would be at the top of the charts.Without a doubt, fresher sounding than what is being played on alternative radio today.And yet, it isn't being played.It is consigned to formatted radio that goes for an over 35 demographic.But the sound is better suited for the U2 audience.
The real trouble is that vital artists like Bryan Ferry cannot get distribution except by the Internet.Now, since I really enjoy this CD, I will go out and buy it and reward him for his efforts.But no thanks to radio or MTV.
To: StoneColdGOP
How so?
You ever listen to that murderous theiving so called music it was only a matter of time before it affected the industry that created it theres no respect for life in the music itself and there are so many bands and artists that could be great bands but they choose the path of the DO DO these images create and mold the minds of millions of children its a shame they cant create music that upholds life insteqad of trying to put a cap in it or uphold the vows of marriage instead of trying to breed with anything that walks
If you dont think rap has changed the industry for the bad look at any 13 year old kid who listens to it !
REMEMBER what this generation tolerates the next generation accepts
So get ready for the next wave of degenerates to invade your home and twist your kids mind [JMHO]
To: Wondervixen
One word:TRASH!
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posted on
07/14/2002 8:47:18 AM PDT
by
SamBees
To: habs4ever
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But no thanks to radio or MTV.Ahhh, yes, MTV...Madonna Television.
If there has ever been a bigger whore to the recording industry, I cannot think of who it might be. There's nothing sadder (or funnier) than the fall she's due to take when children finally start looking at her like we would our mothers trying to stay up with the 18 year old set...Coolness is a fleeting thing & it's one of the fastest to disappear. It can be gone in the bat of an eye. Just ask any parent of a twelve year old on the kid's thirteenth birthday.
It's coming, just you watch.
To: sonserae
It doesn't seem to be filled with all the political agendas that the pop industry has. Emmy Lou Harris made a pitch for PETA during the concert. She was soundly booed. PETA's world HQ is located in Norfolk, VA, right across the river from where the concert was being held. The local populace didn't need to hear a PETA pitch from her to know what they were about. She was the only performer that made a pitch the whole evening.
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posted on
07/14/2002 9:17:03 AM PDT
by
csvset
To: southernnorthcarolina
Well, sooner or later, we all end up sounding like our parents, don't we? My thoughts exactly as I scrolled through the thread. LOL
In some ways, I think music is becoming more challenging and interesting. The emergence of punk in the mid-seventies (whether you agreed with its politics or not), at about the time the writer states that things were beginning to fall apart, re-energized the scene, IMHO. It opened the way for indie bands, which helped re-establish the singer/songwriter. Remember that we had a movie soundtrack of old-timey music nab a bunch of grammys in 2002, including album of the year.
To: parsifal
LOL! I grew up on Herb Alpert--I still remember dancing around the family room to the "Whipped Cream" album. Brings back memories... Ever listen to Perez Prado--a coupe of his instrumentals are on soundtrack to "Office Space".
To: Wondervixen
On the contrary, Rap music is taking a bit of a dip in record sales. Why do you think so many rap artists are sampling (remixing) previous hits of other artists in the past ten years? Specifically, Rock musicians and Folk Artists find their music being sampled by rap artists more often than not...just ask Sting and Carly Simon. Hang in there, Rock is indeed making a comeback these days. Britney is no longer a novelty. NSYNC is about to break up(only to be replaced by another boy band), Acts where artist like Michelle Branch, Creed, and India Arie are bringing a fresh sound to the table.
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posted on
07/14/2002 9:34:58 AM PDT
by
paltz
To: Wondervixen
Rush is putting between 12-15,000 people per show and their tour started 2 weeks ago. No support from mtv,vh-1, or mass media. Radio is playing their new album in limited parts of the country. Blame Clear Channel and Time Warner. They dictate what should be and for how long. That's the way it is. Rush managed to pull off a #6 entry on the Billboard charts in May. That is with the fan support. It is up to the fans of our bands to let these morons know what we really want. Show up to the shows and buy the new records from the older artists and they will pay attention.
To: missycocopuffs
No, I have never heard of him. I have watched the movie a few times (uh my stapler I want my stapler) I'll keep my ears open next time.
But, I scored a bunch of new cd's a few weeks ago from my mom, who is downsizing her house. Got several time-life series: Percy Faith, Mantovani (unopened!) Mancini, Boston Pops, a few others. Great tunes! But what can I say, I even like Lawrence Welk.
M'kay? parsy.
To: Wondervixen
It is no longer imperitave that you have musical talent, just that you're willing to wear the revealing clothes and DANCE, DANCE, DANCE.Dancing isn't even that important anymore, just looking good on MTV and making videos. Hip-hop and rap are starting to dominate, something I hate. Anyway, as one of the younger generation, I'm closer to what's popular than most of you guys, and I don't like what I see on the charts. Take a look at the Billboard top ten.
#1 Hot in Herre by Nelly. Lousy hip hop.
#2 Eminem. No need to say anything.
#3 Hero, by Chad Kroeger and Josey Scott. Theme song to the Spiderman movie. BTW, loved the movie. The song is pretty good, but not this good.
#4 Complicated by Avril Lavigne. I actually like this one. It's pop, but she and her band actually play their own instruments and she writes her own music.
#5 I need a girl (part 2). A hip hop collaberation.
#6 Oh, boy. Cam'ron featuring Juelz Santana. Rap. On MTV they cut out swearing in the videos. This one has half the words cut out.
#7 The Middle by Jimmy Eat World. Another pop song.
#8 A thousand Miles by Vanessa Carlton. At least she plays piano and doesn't move from her chair in the video. And she writes her own music, but I find this song boring.
#9 Foolish by Ashanti. This song was #1 for several weeks. Ashanti is an example of how MTV and music video can be more important than vocal range. She has ZERO vocal range, but she had three top ten singles at once, first artist since the BEATLES to do that! I hate to use the two in the same sentance.
#10 I'm gonna be alright by Jennifer Lopez. Typical J Lo.
Anyway, that's the top ten right now and there's one song on there that I really like. I guess I'm not in line with what teenagers are supposed to like. That's okay. I even like the Beatles. But anyway, music videos and MTV are more important in many cases than your vocal, musical, and lyrical talent. If you toss together something about a girl, throw in a lot of swearing and add a hip-hop beat and you'll instantly get MTV airplay and have a top 40 hit. At least Britney Spears hasn't had a hit in a while.
To: missycocopuffs
My parents had 4-5 of Herb's albums. Good stuff.
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posted on
07/14/2002 10:14:34 AM PDT
by
csvset
To: rintense
Not much anymore. Bought my first real cheapo guitar after being inspired by the Beatles. Played it for many years for personal enjoyment. But I've gotten into other things, the stock market.
To: CatoRenasci
I remember when they were first a phenomenon in the US, my musician friends and I could not figure out what the fuss was about.
This tells a lot because musicians tend to look at music differently than most people. I was 13 when "I Want to Hold Your Hand" came out and then "She Loves You" and I and millions of others were jazzed by the electricity of those songs and the other songs that came shortly after. I could have cared less about sophistication then, I loved the songs. Even after years of playing music sophistication is not even in my thinking as to whether I like a song or not. The first thing is do I like the song? First I listen to the melody because that to me is the most important thing. Then the words. Rhythm, bass, drums, chord progressions. Sure, if I like a song and it has sophistication I will appreciate it more simply on "somebody who wrote this knows music". I wonder what music did you like then? I can't see it in the pop rock scene before or shortly after the Beatles. Car songs, Lou Christie (barf)and a load of other very mediocre songs.
To: Wondervixen
Or just have someone put the music out of synch with their lips :-)
To: jwh_Denver
In the early 1960s, I was (in my teens) mostly listening to jazz (especially West Coast), some 30's big band stuff (I played in a dance band), lots of Dixieland (I played in a Dixieland band), lots of classical music (I was a band and orchestra player) and opera (my grandfather was a serious fan) and a little pop and rock and roll. My taste was pretty typical among my musician friends except the opera. I suppose we weren't your typical cross-section teen audience.
To: jwh_Denver
The stock market instead of the guitar! You've grown up. ;-) I just got my first guitar and are the tips of my fingers sore! I swear the tips of my left index and middle fingers have no feeling. This is the one time when I wish my hands were a wee bit bigger so I could hold down the strings easier.
To: Mr. Morals
In fact, are you the same David McNamara who is for a National Dress Code that bans jeans? ALso banning inter-racial marriage? If you are, you might want to know that this is not a fascist site.
To: Wondervixen
Without any persuasion from me or his father, my fifteen-yr old son has developed a fondness for the the music of The Doors, Boston, The Who, Hendrix, Ozzie and others from the 70s. He does enjoy watching Britney dance though...
To: Wondervixen
it's more the teeny dweeb record company execs and the young turks in radio that are deciding for all of us FM Radio actually did have much to do with a lot of the crap that's out today. In the past, DJ's had free reign over what they could play. However, guys like Lee Abrams came along and ruined that and began polling(remember that dirty word?) listeners likes, dislikes, and buying habits....boom TOP 40 was born, and The DJ was spinning what the advertisers were telling him/her to spin not what was in his own record collection. More importantly, how often do you ever remember the name of a band who sang a tune these days from the radio? Dj's never ID the artists anymore, b/c it takes more ad time.
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posted on
07/14/2002 3:20:45 PM PDT
by
paltz
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