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Revealed: Why we REALLY hate Martha Stewart...
one man's opinion...

Posted on 07/16/2002 11:49:02 AM PDT by ken5050

Why is it that we seem to be more fascinated with the troubles of Martha Stewart than others whose crimes appear to be far greater, and much more heinous? Ken Lay, Andy Fastow, Bernie Ebbers, and Dennis Kozlowski come to mind, among others, yet we are all taking far more interest, indeed a far greater vicarious thrill, in poor Martha's tribulations. Why? Is it indeed the obvious, that she's a female?


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After all, the world of investment bankers, business execs, and media types is dominated by males. So, is it all rampant sexism? raging hormones? Is THIS the explanation for the continuouss gloating as Martha does a belly-flop into the pool of public opinion?

Surprisingly, it's not sexism at all. But the reason will astound you even more.

Indeed, compare Martha to Jill Barad and Linda Wachner. Who, you ask? Remember them, two disgraced former female CEOs who quite literally ran their companies into the ground while obscenely enriching themselves; publicly displaying crass personalities that make Martha look sainted by comparison. They've enjoyed their 15 minutes of notoriety, and have now completely disappeared from our sight, and mind, left to console themselves with the millions they looted from the companies they used to run. So, why then, the endless fascination with all things Martha?

Last Friday night, on the train home, at the start of the weekend, a half dozen middle-aged white guys, a mix of business, financial, and legal types, were discussing "l'affaire Martha" and enjoying her displeasure, as reflected in a picture in the NY Post, when one of the six, obviously mellowed by a few adult beverages, blurted out..."I can't stand that woman. She reminds me of my ex-wife."

BINGO!!! Out of the mouths of babes, as it were. Instantly, the veils of confusion lifted, the truth was revealed. While to those legions of her admirers who happily buy her sheets at middle America K-Marts, she is the personification of taste; to the overwhelming majority of at-least-once-formerly-married males in the northeast power corridor of the country, she reminds them all in some way of their ex-wives, and is thus the personification of evil incarnate.

And, in a blink of an eye, our little group was off on a wild ride of hyperbole and innuendo, scaling a mountain range of tangenital comparisons, with a healthy measure of character assassination added for good measure; as we contemplated what it was like to have been ( or, perhaps, still be?) married to assorted Martha types, We were off on our own version of acid flashbacks, memories of divorces, and ex-wives, long surpressed. And we had plenty of targets. the six of us have a collective total of 8 ex-wives, and 4 current ones.

"I can't stand those tightly clenched teeth of hers. My ex-wife never yelled either. she just looked like she was sucking on a lemon, whenever we argued."

"She never perspires, she's a cold fish. She probably never sweats, eving duing sex. My ex was like that. Martha probably has silent orgasms, then says, with a little smirk, 'That's nice.' Then she can't wait to make the bed."

We had LOTS of sexual imagery about Martha and assorted Martha type. Several of us assumed that she coaches hes partners during the act, exhorting with little yelps of 'That's a GOOD thing!!'There was another , albeit somewhat weak, analogy about Martha, sex, and making souffles, but he was kind of muttering to himself. "And the bathrooms. All this cutsey-pooh crapola all over the place. Man, I couldn't sit on the john for more than 10 seconds. it made me ill.... heck, I wasn't allowed to piss standing up, in case....do you have any idea how annoying that is?"

"And the kitchen, Mine was like a garden. Plants all over the place. And those friggin' ferns. I was raised to think that dirt belongs OUTSIDE the kitchen. Why ever bother to wash your hands before eating, then, ... tell me? I mean, come on...and we had drawers full, and bowls full, of all these stupid kitchen gadgets, every kind imaginable. We had SIX different kinds of garlic presses...and a complete set of those thingees to make 12 DIFFERENT sizes of melon balls.... heck, we had something designed to shave the hair off a kiwi. But when I wanted to find a church-key, I had to rummage around fro 10 minutes, dump everything out of three kitchen drawers. Or bite the bottle-cap off."

And watching the pictures of Martha and her lawyers and advisors, well, it's like watching your soon-to-be ex and her divorce lawyer, across from you at the conference table, determined to exact 250 pounds of flesh from your 180 pound body.

So there, in a nutshell, is why Martha is loathed. In the collective psyche of millons of men of a certain age, income bracket, and social strata, she's our worst nightmare.

1 posted on 07/16/2002 11:49:02 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050
Stop picking on Martha, I find her to be a damn sexy women.
2 posted on 07/16/2002 11:50:04 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: ken5050
Plus she knows how to use a Suburban as a weapon!
3 posted on 07/16/2002 11:50:22 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: ken5050
Although "hate" is too extreme a description, I think anyone who has time to iron fall leaves onto their Thanksgiving table cloth needs to get a real job.
4 posted on 07/16/2002 11:51:17 AM PDT by Tourist Guy
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Because she doesn't share my belief that my clothes look great on the floor.
5 posted on 07/16/2002 11:51:57 AM PDT by APBaer
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We had LOTS of sexual imagery about Martha and assorted Martha type

I REALLY didn't need to read that ... gross

6 posted on 07/16/2002 11:52:22 AM PDT by Mo1
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7 posted on 07/16/2002 11:54:41 AM PDT by Mo1
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I'll see if I can find a link to the Martha thread. It had some good stuff on it.
8 posted on 07/16/2002 11:56:24 AM PDT by farmfriend
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LOL! Just wait for her to do some sponge painting on the cement cell bricks to give the room a more 'open' feeling. And some climbing ivy on those window bars would be nice...
9 posted on 07/16/2002 11:56:55 AM PDT by Tourist Guy
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That's not why I hate Martha. I hate her for being an obnoxious vile woman who pretends to be this wonderful little homemaker and looks down her nose on regular folks with regular taste (miss "oh I only eat pizza made with tomatos I grew and sundried myself", KMA "lady"). Hated her long before I found out she was a crook and an inside trader. And I'll hate her long after her highpriced mouthpiece finds a way to skate her past the law on that too.
10 posted on 07/16/2002 11:58:07 AM PDT by discostu
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To: Mo1
On second thought, roses on the commode is NOT a good idea. Thorns and all...
11 posted on 07/16/2002 11:58:08 AM PDT by Tourist Guy
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Give us Martha Stewart!! - Tom
12 posted on 07/16/2002 12:01:35 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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And all this time I thought that it was just class envy of a woman who made a lot of money.
13 posted on 07/16/2002 12:03:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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bttt-good job. Thanks. ;-)
14 posted on 07/16/2002 12:05:34 PM PDT by lodwick
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I don't hate Martha Stewart. I never cared much for her show, or for the 'Home and Gardens' channel.

But she went cheap and took insider information.

She must now 'disgorge' her illegal profits (stick her finger down her throat and vomit the money up).

I don't really want to see this old woman in jail. It is not like she made war and bore arms against us, but she must 'disgorge' her illegal profits.

15 posted on 07/16/2002 12:06:50 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: ken5050
I must say, devoting enough mental attention to Martha to hate her certainly reveals more about the hater than Martha. I don't particularly like her, so I don't watch her, end of story. Why would I bother to hate her? As for her current predicament, I am flabberghasted at the attention wasted on this woman. Investigate her. Try her if necessary. Then get over it. What a waste of time all this inceassant coverage is.
16 posted on 07/16/2002 12:07:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Have you seen Martha's new Magazine?

INSIDER TRADING TIPS BY MARTHA

17 posted on 07/16/2002 12:07:17 PM PDT by stlrocket
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To: LindaSOG; OneidaM; Howlin; PoisedWoman
FYI
18 posted on 07/16/2002 12:13:02 PM PDT by ken5050
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I'd agree with you as far as you go (though I'm sure that there's a certain component of being reminded of one's mother who was always after one to clean the room, etc.). But what about women? I know of women who despise Martha Stewart every bit as much as I do. I can only guess, but I would think that to women, Martha Stewart is someone who rubs their noses in how "perfect" she is.
19 posted on 07/16/2002 12:13:51 PM PDT by jejones
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Another view of why people hate Martha Stewart, the "tall poppy" --

http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/june/rwt_martha.htm

20 posted on 07/16/2002 12:16:21 PM PDT by Misterioso
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