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Senate Panel to Defy Bush, Vote on Women's Treaty (Biden Alert)
wp ^ | 7/18/2002 | Karen DeYoung

Posted on 07/17/2002 9:12:05 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

In an almost unheard-of challenge to presidential prerogative, the Democratic Senate is preparing to consider ratification of an international treaty the White House has indicated it may not want approved.

Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) has scheduled a committee vote today on the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, a 23-year-old United Nations document that was signed by President Jimmy Carter in 1980 and has languished ever since.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biden; senate; un; unlist; womenstreaty
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Looks like more united nations BS.
1 posted on 07/17/2002 9:12:05 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
I guess a complaint about a burned roast will now bring the blue helmets out in force to our home.
2 posted on 07/17/2002 9:16:16 PM PDT by Sangamon Kid
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To: TLBSHOW
In an almost unheard-of challenge to presidential prerogative

This is what you get when a President 'installs a new mood in Washington". Subversives constantly challange him. I wish he would nail their a$$es to the door.

3 posted on 07/17/2002 9:17:30 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: TLBSHOW
Biden really needs to get rid of that bug he has stuck up his butt
4 posted on 07/17/2002 9:19:13 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: TLBSHOW
Bush or anyone else should not pay attention to any man that has doll hair.
5 posted on 07/17/2002 9:22:48 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: Balding_Eagle
This is what you get when a President 'installs a new mood in Washington". Subversives constantly challange him. I wish he would nail their a$$es to the door.

Apparently, Bush never read the story of the frog and the scorpion.

The Senate is being run by a cabal of radical leftists. The only way to defeat a bully (who will acquire power to himself as long as he is unopposed) is to OPPOSE him!!!!

Milk-toast Lott et al will NEVER get the job done. When will the Republicans (and the Bush administration) get spines and do what must be done!

6 posted on 07/17/2002 9:23:47 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: TLBSHOW
It will never get the two-thirds required for ratification.
7 posted on 07/17/2002 9:29:16 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: TLBSHOW
Did Biden claim he wrote the treaty himself?
8 posted on 07/17/2002 9:29:32 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: isthisnickcool
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9 posted on 07/17/2002 9:41:47 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: TLBSHOW
Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) has scheduled a committee vote today on the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women...

The UN?!!!

They condemned the US for getting rid of the Tailban....and they think their hands are clean here?

Memo to UN---you are a joke..and, your US Taxpayer funded limo to Central Park is waiting.

10 posted on 07/17/2002 9:46:18 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: goldstategop
It will never get the two-thirds required for ratification.

I think it's just election year politics. Biden knows it won't ever get ratified. After all President Carter signed it in 1980. If the Senate wanted to ratify, it would have done so. Biden just wants to be able to use no votes on the treaty as sound bites in TV ads against Republican Senators up for re-election this year.

The fact that an old signed but unratified treaty can be dusted off at a moments notice demonstrates the need to have a constitutional ammendment placing time limits on treaty ratification. I wrote a rather lengthy post on that topic a couple of months ago, which I was able to find using Google.com.

11 posted on 07/17/2002 9:47:45 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: *UN_List
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12 posted on 07/17/2002 9:54:02 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: madfly
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13 posted on 07/17/2002 9:54:17 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Paleo Conservative; goldstategop
We need a new Consitutional ammendment that would put a time limit for the ratification of any treaty signed by the President of the United states similar to the time limits placed on the ratification of Constitutional ammendments. Here is my proposed text.

1. If a treaty that has been signed by the President of the United States has not been ratified by the United States Senate within a period of seven years from the date it was signed by the President, such signature shall be considered null and void. 2. All signatures on outstanding treaties not ratified at the time of adoption of this ammendment will be considered null and void if they have not been ratified by seven years after this ammendment is ratified.

3. The article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.

This ammendment would prevent a lot of mischief by future presidents. If it were adopted, President Bush would not even need to unsign this treaty. It would die from neglect.

Above is the post I made on 5/23/2002. I would also add that it would also prevent mischief by Senators. There were several replies to my original post.
14 posted on 07/17/2002 9:56:02 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: TLBSHOW
If Biden is leading the charge then it must mean that someone else thought of the idea first.
15 posted on 07/17/2002 10:04:14 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Balding_Eagle
"new tone"

It has nothing to do with the new tone. It has everything to do with a "get Bush" attitude by Daschle and Gebhardt - which is really being directed by McAuliffe, through the Clintons.

The interesting thing is the public already sees through it (as a purely political attack) - and it's not sitting well. And ... it also shows how important it is to stop the dems' control of the Senate.
16 posted on 07/17/2002 10:05:54 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Sangamon Kid
signed by President Jimmy Carter in 1980 and has languished ever since.

Hmmmm....Camp David Accords comes to mind(verbal plurality in reference to any provisions in the accord actually agreed upon).

And, for more on Senator Biden's trip to Afghanistan with pics, mind you, visit http://biden.senate.gov/ and also a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee. See http://judiciary.senate.gov/members.cfm

Those into sci-fi will also recognize him as the now aged protagonist in the movies Fortress and Fortress 2.

17 posted on 07/17/2002 10:07:21 PM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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To: isthisnickcool
You have inspired a song. Look for "RAG DOLL."
18 posted on 07/17/2002 10:30:27 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: Freemeorkillme
This is just election year politics and I do hope they vote on it. Then the pubbies get a backbone and use this and some other things in some good ads.

This is the treaty that would ban Mothers Day. Let's see, they want to get rid of the Pledge, the Boy Scouts, Mom, the Flag, prayer. Some good hard hitting in your face ads, run in every district and every state with any competetive races. Put them out big time a week before Halloween. Maybe throw in the Dems. want to ruin the economy so they have an election issue.

19 posted on 07/17/2002 10:31:52 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Betty Jane
or how about the democrats the bummer party!
20 posted on 07/17/2002 10:44:39 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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