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Eco-Terror Expert Calls For Inquiry of Green Anarchists
Newsmax.com ^ | Thursday, July 18, 2002 | Marc Morano, CNSNews.com

Posted on 07/18/2002 12:08:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave

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I'm placing this in the Breaking News category due to the terrorism this group advocated yesterday in Ashland, Oregon before starting their self professed Terrorism Tour.

Today there are close to 20 fires burning in Oregon. Are any of these fires due to the promises of these Enviral Eco Terrorists or just due to their forest miss management agendas.

More links will posted to this thread re what's happening today and what these groups have threatened America with.

1 posted on 07/18/2002 12:08:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave; madfly
Ping!
2 posted on 07/18/2002 12:11:51 PM PDT by StriperSniper
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To: Admin Moderator
Please close this thread and link it to this thread: (link to Kattracks post on this article)">(link)

Kattracks posted this article while I was in the process of posting it. No need for double posting.

3 posted on 07/18/2002 12:12:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Good Post Dave. Greetings from an ex-pat of the Peoples Republic of Oregon and an avid fly fisherman.
I took a quick tour around their site yesterday and these trustfarians are dangerous. I grew up in the good Oregon and It makes me sick to see what has become of my home.
4 posted on 07/18/2002 12:17:25 PM PDT by MP5SD
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To: Grampa Dave
If the fires are due to eco-terrorism, the perps should face hard time. But, as the FBI correctly (stopped clock is right twice a day effect) points out, having hairy armpits and obnoxious opinions doesn't rate a visit from an FBI agent.

In the article, the "expert" was exercised about advocacy, not action.
5 posted on 07/18/2002 12:19:24 PM PDT by eno_
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To: Grampa Dave
Silly's Drive-By Anagrams

Green Anarchists =
Teasing ranchers
Researching ants

Just being,

6 posted on 07/18/2002 12:37:34 PM PDT by Silly
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To: Grampa Dave
"The FBI is only concerned when there is a violation of the law," said Steven Berry, spokesman for the FBI's Domestic Terrorism Program. "We fully support the rights of any and all groups, no matter what their message or their purpose, to lawfully assemble, protest and march."

Unless of course you belong to a gun club, militia, or, get ready to gasp, one of the State TRT's. Then, of course, no law need be broken for your group to be actively investigated. Where's Mulder and Skully when we need them?

EBUCK

7 posted on 07/18/2002 12:40:05 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: Grampa Dave
When I first started reading the description of their "mission", I thought "sounds like ELF"!

Turns out I was wrong...sort of...but here a\they are apparently AFFILIATED with ELF.

I can only say it is SUPREMELY STUPID OF THE FBI to be SOOOOOO worried about accusations from Constitutionalists that the rights of eco terrorists brought in for questioning will be violated (EXAMPLE: anyone catch Ann Coulter today? The guy at the very end of the show.)....THAT THEY WON'T INVESTIGATE the POSSIBLE breaking of law until a law is broken spectacularly enough to warrent an investigation!!!

Note to FBI: THIS IS A TERRORIST CELL AFFILIATED WITH, AND PROBABLY AN OFFSHOOT OF, A KNOWN TERRORIST GROUP!! HAS AL QAEDA TAUGHT YOU NOTHING???

Stupid. So stupid.

8 posted on 07/18/2002 12:54:31 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: EBUCK

"The FBI is only concerned when there is a violation of the law," said Steven Berry

Crime follow up. That's all they have. Several courts have ruled that it's not an LEOs job to protect people from crime. Rather, to enforce the law. In that case, should any  eco-terrorists on their tour of destruction break the law it is LEOs that failed to enforce the law. The FBI has been informed of the high probability of crimes to come from a specific group with a known location. The FBI needs to enforce the law. If the eco-terrorists do commit crimes it will be taken into account the amount of negligence and or incompetence by the FBI.

I mean, if the FBI can't competently thwart known eco-terrorists from committing crimes with a map of their tour schedule in hand it is blatantly obvious that the FBI would be useless in thwarting unknown and difficult-to-locate Islamic terrorist.

9 posted on 07/18/2002 1:12:29 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Grampa Dave
Hmmm...would Bubba's visiting Portland on Friday
10 posted on 07/18/2002 1:16:06 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Grampa Dave
These are the terrorists who don't look like Osama Ya Mama. And thanx to the Democrat-Media Complex, you never hear about the damage they do, either.
11 posted on 07/18/2002 1:17:03 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Grampa Dave
"You do have people here recommending violence, murder, property damage, everything you can think of," he said.

I wonder, can "recommending" be the same as "conspiring"?

"Four legs good, two legs bad."
-George Orwell, Animal Farm

12 posted on 07/18/2002 1:23:57 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Zon
The FBI had no problem with preemptive surveillance when they broke the mob....thus paving the way for the Columbians to come in, unfettered by the mob that was broken by the FBI.

Eco-terrorists present as clear and present a danger to this country as al Qaeda or ANY of the zillions of other Islamifascist terrorist groups in this country. If the FBI can do sweeps of jewelery kiosks run by illegals in US malls as apparent money laundering centers for Islamic terrorists, they can sure as heck use the same tactic on the worst of the enviro terrorists.

I believe the FBI's worried because the enviro terrorists are savvy with all the successful legal sallies used by the left for so many years. Why make arrests when you know the enemy has the support of the rich and influential, and you probably won't win the case?

Good Lord...I think I'm saying the FBI isn't sure how to deal with them....I hope I am wrong.

13 posted on 07/18/2002 1:36:26 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: LurkedLongEnough
It seems to me that recommending terrorism and violence is a step beyond conspiring.
14 posted on 07/18/2002 1:37:15 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: cake_crumb

I think I'm saying the FBI isn't sure how to deal with them.

It's negligence or incompetence -- probably both. Time and events will tell as the eco-terrorists go on their tour of destruction.

16 posted on 07/18/2002 1:45:32 PM PDT by Zon
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To: rdb3
These Green Terrorists have been commiting acts of green terrorism in America against Americans for a decade now.

To many Americans they are far more dangerous than al Qaeda thugs re the damage they can do 24/7 in America. Yet the left wing maggots in the media make these green thugs appear to be the good guys, and the rest of us the evil ones.
17 posted on 07/18/2002 1:48:09 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To many Americans they are far more dangerous than al Qaeda thugs re the damage they can do 24/7 in America. Yet the left wing maggots in the media make these green thugs appear to be the good guys, and the rest of us the evil ones.

True... True...
Like the Budweiser "Wazzup" commercials from last year.

18 posted on 07/18/2002 1:51:47 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
I agree with everything in your reply. These are truly dangerous individuals who would off our children, grandchildren and us to cleanse Mother Earth.

If you take your family to Burger King, please do not buy their veggie burger. Peta gets money for each veggie burger sold. Peta finances the radical animal loving groups. (Peta's MurderKing Site)

19 posted on 07/18/2002 1:56:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
Here is the city by city planned visit by these Green Anarchists. FYI and your families safety:


Sacramento July 18
San Fran. July 19
Oakland July 20
Berkeley July 21
Santa Cruz July 22
Fresno July 23
Long Beach July 25
L.A. July 26
San Diego (moved) July 27
Las Vegas July 28
Phoenix July 29
Flagstaff...? July 30*
El Paso July 31
Austin Aug. 1
Houston Aug. 2
New Orleans Aug. 3
Gainsville...??? Aug. 4
Atlanta Aug. 5
Asheville Aug. 6
D.C. Aug. 7
Baltimore Aug. 8
Philly Aug. 9
NY Aug. 10
Boston Aug. 11
Portland, Maine Aug. 12
Syracuse Aug. 13
Pittsburg Aug. 14
Cleveland Aug. 15
Detriot Aug. 16
Chicago Aug. 17
Madison Aug. 18
Milwaukee Aug. 19
Minneapolis Aug. 20
Des Moines Aug. 21
Omaha Aug. 22
Rapid City Aug. 23
W. Yellowstone Aug. 24
Missoula Aug. 25
Boise Aug. 26

20 posted on 07/18/2002 1:59:04 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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