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Eco-Terror Expert Calls For Inquiry of Green Anarchists
Newsmax.com ^ | Thursday, July 18, 2002 | Marc Morano, CNSNews.com

Posted on 07/18/2002 12:08:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave

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To: cake_crumb

I think I'm saying the FBI isn't sure how to deal with them 13

That they don't know how to deal with them it's incompetence. It certainly isn't competence that they can't figure out what to do. As I said earlier, that is not promising when they can't handle the little stuff yet are expected to handle unknown and difficult-to-locate terrorists.

 

41 posted on 07/18/2002 3:02:25 PM PDT by Zon
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To: cake_crumb; Grampa Dave
I believe the FBI's worried because the enviro terrorists are savvy with all the successful legal sallies used by the left for so many years. Why make arrests when you know the enemy has the support of the rich and influential, and you probably won't win the case?

I think the FBI is simply being smart by publicly downplaying their concern. Who says they are not watching these groups like a hawk? And why should the FBI send out warning signals to them? Let them hang themselves with overconfidence.
I was pleasantly surprised to learn that convicted arsonists such as Jeffrey "Free" Luers and Craig "Critter" Marshall were indeed being watched. One of them got 20 years, I think, and the other about 6, for bombing a car dealership here in Oregon, but I don't recall whether the FBI was part of that investigation or not. Grampa, can you supply any details? Anyhow, it shows that law enforcement and the courts take these eco-terrorists pretty seriously.
Meanwhile, as I said, let them go around the country announcing their criminal intentions and putting their luniness on public display. Heck, they are so arrogant and self-righteous, I wouldn't put it past them to post inadvertent clues about their upcoming crimes on their own internet site! One thing to keep in mind is that this country has no history of leftist guerilla warfare, just various riots and isolated acts by small groups like the Weathermen and the SLA. The eco-nuts have no expertise, they are naive amateurs -- spoiled children really, probably sub-consciously asking for a good spanking from their elders, lol. I doubt they would have the guts to put their lives on the line for their 'noble cause'. It will be interesting to see what kind of flak they draw in their nationwide anarchy tour. Somehow, I don't think the time is politically 'correct' to run around the country calling for the destruction of America! (I noticed that NYC is not on their agenda, wonder why?)

42 posted on 07/18/2002 3:04:00 PM PDT by pariah
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To: Zon
Yeah. Free Padilla.

People like you cannot be trusted with handling valid assessments. For what it's worth, my reply number 13, which you refer to, ALSO contains a valid suggestion of how the FBI can begin to get around the left-wing elite and the "free Padilla" crowd. THAT, however, is only a BEGINNING which the FBI MAY be able to build upon in this case. You can only see the part that you want to see.

43 posted on 07/18/2002 3:09:42 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: pariah
"I think the FBI is simply being smart by publicly downplaying their concern. Who says they are not watching these groups like a hawk?"

..."The FBI had no problem with preemptive surveillance when they broke the mob....thus paving the way for the Columbians to come in, unfettered by the mob that was broken by the FBI"

I agree, the FBI probably is.....it'd be stupid if it wasn't, but with the heads of SOME local offices, there's no way to tell.

In truth, I have faith in the FBI in general. And sympathy for the situation that all current circumstances, both of their making and out of their control, have landed the FBI in at this time.

44 posted on 07/18/2002 3:15:28 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: pariah
I don't think that the FBI was involved in the criminal investigation that led to the sentencing of those two anarchists in Eugene.

Just about all law enforcement in Oregon has been stymied with the no under covering rulings by the left wing judicial system/judges of Oregon and the lack of an executive branch challenge by the worthless governor of Oregon. Judges have warned the FBI if their people were caught in undercover operations, the bosses and under cover agents could go to jail not the criminals they were watching.

Having said that, I think that the FBI will be monitoring these potential Green Terrorists as they go on their tour. Probably the moment they started down the Siskiyou pass on I5 and went into California, the monitoring really started.

The roundup of the Islamakazi jewelry thugs in our malls showed that the new FBI is monitoring and ready to act when they have the data.

Having said that. They will be forced to monitor these Green Anarchists until one of this group does something really stupid and really bad. Then we could see a massive roundup.
45 posted on 07/18/2002 3:16:07 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: pariah
"The eco-nuts have no expertise, they are naive amateurs"

I agree that the bulk of eco nuts are spoiled children with nothing better to do and looking for attention, however, the bulk of them (which make up the prtests and riots) are nothing more than the equivilant of cannon fodder for their handlers....who ARE dangerous.





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46 posted on 07/18/2002 3:27:00 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: pariah
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The Animal Liberation Front (ALF) carries out direct action against animal abuse in the form of rescuing animals and causing financial loss to animal exploiters, usually through the damage and destruction of property.

The ALF's short-term aim is to save as many animals as possible and directly disrupt the practice of animal abuse. Their long term aim is to end all animal suffering by forcing animal abuse companies out of business.

It is a nonviolent campaign, activists taking all precautions not to harm any animal (human or otherwise).

Because ALF actions are against the law, activists work anonymously, either in small groups or individually, and do not have any centralized organization or coordination.

The Animal Liberation Front consists of small autonomous groups of people all over the world who carry out direct action according to the ALF guidelines. Any group of people who are vegetarians or vegans and who carry out actions according to ALF guidelines have the right to regard themselves as part of the ALF

Remember the animals "freed" from poultry farms last year in the middle of the winder? The ones that didn't get hit by cars froze to death...but these people DO cause real damage.

BTW...they did hit NYC earlier this year, but security was too tight for them to do any more but hold up stupid, childish signs. Fox covered it.

47 posted on 07/18/2002 3:38:20 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: pariah
Here is an interesting link to how eco terrorism crimes have dropped in the past year: ( Eco-terror acts ease, but reasons are unclear)
48 posted on 07/18/2002 3:41:11 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: pariah
I did a little research on your question/statement about who got Luers. This is a link to an interesting thread on this. (First year anniversary of Jeff 'Free' Luers' incarceration [Earth Liberation Front])

Direct Quotes from Luers:

On June 16, 2000 I ignited a fire that would forever change my life. I torched 3 SUV’s. I took extra care and used specific fuels to ensure no one would be injured.

Approximately 30 minutes after the fire was lit and extinguished, I was taken into custody by 3 undercover agents who had been following me, one of whom I would later learn to be a member of an anti-domestic terrorist unit. I was arrested on Criminal Mischief One,a charge that carries about one year. In the course of one week that charge would multiply into 10 felony counts, including 3 counts of Arson One.

Getting to trial took the course of a year. By trial I had accumulated 13 felony counts, now including conspiracy with persons unknown. I was looking at a little over 100 years. I refused to take a deal.

I had never seen that remark about the " 3 undercover agents who had been following me, one of whom I would later learn to be a member of an anti-domestic terrorist unit."

49 posted on 07/18/2002 3:51:12 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: eno_
... having hairy armpits and obnoxious opinions doesn't rate a visit from an FBI agent.

I wonder if that includes al Qaeda terrorists?

50 posted on 07/18/2002 5:08:01 PM PDT by Schatze
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
... should be strung-up on the nearest tree.

Can't do that ... our firefighters have burned them all down.

51 posted on 07/18/2002 5:12:31 PM PDT by Schatze
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To: Grampa Dave
Better yet, boycott Burger King for having anything to do with PETA.
52 posted on 07/18/2002 5:14:21 PM PDT by Schatze
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To: Grampa Dave
That looks like a potential FReep schedule to me.
53 posted on 07/18/2002 5:21:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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Yeah, come on down to E. 152nd & St. Clair. C'mon! Now that would be fun!

You should go wherever they're going to be and FReep them. I'm thinking of doing it with the McKinney FReep crew here in Atlanta. Don't want the team to get cold from too many days on the bench ;-)

54 posted on 07/18/2002 5:24:17 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Grampa Dave
I myself became aware of the attempts to burn Tyree Oil when Richard Bremer, the station manager of the Eugene police Whiteaker substation mentioned it to me.

It was upsetting, as it would have created a huge inferno that could have killed many folks.

Interestingly enough, Luer's digs were within the range of this inferno, right across the tracks at the old Chef Francico's factory/wharehouse.

Luers had been aware that I have Green Beret military training, and had probed me for information concerning explosives and other such things while I was at the old 'Out of the Fog" coffeehouse a year or so before his little monkeyshines.

I note he tried to ignite fumes eminating from jugs of fuel with burning incense sticks, and as it was unseasonably cold that morning, Tyree was kept safe by whomever sets the weather up there. I am very, very, very glad I remembered that what knowlege was given me by the U.S. Army was taught me along with a sense of responsibility to safeguard it.

Had this clown hurt or killed someone, or even been more efficient and smart in planning his little operation's orders for these crimes, I would be a very tortured soul right now.

This situation taught me a great deal, make no mistakes about that.

55 posted on 07/18/2002 5:34:31 PM PDT by Glutton
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To: Grampa Dave
I should mention that Luers had shown what a tempermental and violent sort he was several times when he was at the Fall Creek tree sit.

He once beat up a kid who stole three cassette tapes. And he did it thoroughly, enjoying every minute of it.

He has also been in the hole for fighting in prison. He was badly beaten up by a common criminal also from Eugene after he took issue with that guy calling himself a Eugene Anarchist.

56 posted on 07/18/2002 5:42:46 PM PDT by Glutton
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To: FreedomPoster; countrydummy
That schedule does look like a Freep Schedule. By the time we found out about it they were here and gone. However, there is a lot of lead time.

Country you might want to ping your East Coast Freepers about this upcoming parade of Green Filth.
57 posted on 07/18/2002 5:52:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: sauropod
Possible Freeper Freep schedule to tie in your favorite unwashed Green Terrorists?
58 posted on 07/18/2002 5:54:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: MP5SD
>I grew up in the good Oregon and It makes me sick to see what has become of my home.

Ditto!

59 posted on 07/18/2002 5:55:27 PM PDT by garden variety
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To: Schatze; JohnHuang2; Sabertooth; CedarDave; BOBTHENAILER; SierraWasp
Schtatze, "This to me is the reply/remark of the day":

Posted to you: ... should be strung-up on the nearest tree.

Your great reply: "Can't do that ... our firefighters have burned them all down.

60 posted on 07/18/2002 6:01:40 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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