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To: stylin_geek
So, the gentleman who worked to earn the $200 has to earn another $200 to buy another stereo. You are now up to $400 this person has spent on stereo equipment for his car.

$400 dollars vs having to kill someone and spend 9 years in jail. You can keep the $400 bucks.

Obviously, property rights mean very little to you, because as long as what is being taken from you can easily be replaced by more work on your part, then anyone who does not want to earn what they have is free to take whatever they want of yours.

No one is "free" to steal anything of mine, but personal property is far less valuable than human life. Given the choice between shooting a man and losing a stereo; I'd let him have the stereo. That's not to say that I'd make it easy for him, but I wouldn't resort to deadly force unless my life was in danger

As for us being a nation of laws, yeah, we are a nation of laws that take from those that produce, and give to those that do not produce.

So you suggest shooting anyone who gets in your way?

Yeah, that's twisting your words, but turnabout is fair play.

70 posted on 07/22/2002 2:15:44 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber
I agree, getting tossed in jail in defense of ones property does put one in the position of letting thieves have their way. I wonder, what if you take a baseball bat to the thief, and knock him cold? Then, you can spend some time in court, spending money, defending yourself against the lawsuit the thief is liable to bring against you. I might add, what if the thief is much larger than you are, what do you do then?
73 posted on 07/22/2002 4:24:08 AM PDT by stylin_geek
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To: Zeroisanumber
I would argue, by the way, that we are not "a nation of laws, not men," because this premise implies that if an action is not against the law, then there is nothing wrong said action. Also, which way do you want it? Are you decrying killing someone over $400, or would you restrain yourself because $400 is not worth 9 years in jail? Interesting that you could go to jail over $400, but a thief might get 90 days, at most. When one can go to jail defending property rights, it means property rights are under serious assault in this country.
76 posted on 07/22/2002 10:33:52 AM PDT by stylin_geek
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To: Zeroisanumber
"but personal property is far less valuable than human life.."

So, could you please tell us exactly where you live, what times you are and are not at home, and what kind of car you drive (preferably with the license number so that we don't get it mixed up with anyone else's car).

Since you obviously feel that what you own is meant to be shared with anyone who wants to take it, I just thought that we would make it easy ... and, if we do it while you're not home, you won't have to face the anguish of standing there and doing nothing while we do so.

81 posted on 07/22/2002 10:54:39 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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