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We were duped about Okla. bombing
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Monday, July 15, 2002 | Ralph R. Reiland

Posted on 07/21/2002 8:36:02 AM PDT by Jean S

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:02:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Shortly after the explosion at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995, an "all points bulletin" went out over the Oklahoma City police radio band alerting law enforcement officers to be on the lookout for a "late model, almost new, Chevrolet, full-size pickup, brown in color with tinted windows and a smoke-colored bug deflector on the front."


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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: okcbombing; terrorism
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To: Dave S
If you don't know what the AP has to do with it then you're way out of your league even commenting on this thread. And you act like a commentary based on certain known facts is an unusual and strange bird. Just another example of how out of touch you are.

Here's another column based on facts to illuminate you (not that you care to learn anything)

61 posted on 07/21/2002 1:08:50 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: The KG9 Kid
This is the same paper that has the journalist that wrote 'Black Hawk Down'.

No, it is not. Mark Bowden writes for the Philadelphia Inquirer - and is a mixed bag - he wrote a long piece poo-pooing Clinton conspiracies that, among other things, supported the official line on Vince Foster and claimed that nothing funny ever happened at Mena.

62 posted on 07/21/2002 1:09:43 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Dave S
see post #51, and previous article,post #48
63 posted on 07/21/2002 1:10:26 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Gary Aldrich; amom; archy; aristeides; anymouse; AtticusX; backhoe; Betty Jo; ...
Ping, with apologies for capitalization errors.
64 posted on 07/21/2002 1:12:50 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
Richard Mellon Scaife **DOES NOT** own the Manila Times.

Who said he did? The current piece of trash we are talking about appeared on the website of a Pittsburgh newspaper, not the Manila Times. The article was a column of commentary offered by an unknown professor from a no name school who moonlights as a restaurant owner (perhaps a local McDonalds). Glorygirl, you could have written this article and had every bit as much credibility. Dont be so easy seduced.

65 posted on 07/21/2002 1:13:13 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Clara Lou
Also, why wouldn't someone claim the "credit" for the "successful" bombing?

Given the claims in this article that there was plenty of intelligence gathered about an impending attack and that the Marshall's Service was specifically being targeted for their 'trespas' on the Quran there would be no need to take credit for it. The intended targets, the Marshall's Service and the U.S. Gov., knew who did it.

One possible reason the perpetrators wouldn't want public credit is because it would require public support for the Gov. to make a significant response. Apparently our Gov. didn't want to generate any such support. They went out of their way to deflect any blame from ME sources right from day one. I remember that watching the story unfold on network TV that day.

How did our Gov. know so quickly and so certainly that there was no ME connection to it? At the time almost everyone immediately thought of ME terrorists. It was a logical conclusion. They had McVeigh within a few hours and the Gov. seemed to go out of its way to not investigate it at all. They cordoned off the area, rescued the survivors, pulled out the bodies and proceeded to demolish the remains of the building and cart off every cubic centimeter of it in record time. The way that outside investigation was brushed off and harrassed seems puzzling to me at the very least. There are more than just a few weird stories along those lines.

66 posted on 07/21/2002 1:13:35 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: rabidone
I was not wearing my tin foil hat when I read this so will someone tell me why McVeigh would allow himself to be executed without mentioning (in his defense) the participation of Iraquis (whom he had fought against in the Persian Gulf War)?

It's quite possible he had been told he was a federal agent infiltrating a ring of enemy Iraquis, whether by real US federal intelligence operatives or those *false flagged* agents representing themselves as such, who would not only have assured him that the bombing would be halted before it could be detonated- as at the first Wiorld Trade Center bombing attempt- but who also made the Army Reserve/Special Forces facility at Camp Gruber, Oklahoma available for preparing the Ryder trucks and their payload- as photographed.

And he'd keep quiet if he didn't want the same thing to happen to his sister that happened to OKC police officer Terrence Yeakey, and some two dozen other witnesses to the events that took place in the bombing's immediate aftermath.

Who was he going to tell anything to, anyway? The FBI-controlled media mouthpieces allowed to interview him? I doubt we ever heard anything from McVeigh not approved from Washington first.

-archy-/-

67 posted on 07/21/2002 1:14:06 PM PDT by archy
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To: dirtboy
Ahh... thanks.
68 posted on 07/21/2002 1:17:10 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Dave S
Big deal, the guy is employed by Sun Yat Moon and the "Moonies."

Who the hell is "Sun Yat Moon" you illiterate bozo? At least if you're going to try to slur someone's name just because of the corporate parent of the paper he works for you should get it right. By the way the Moonies don't get involved in the editorial process, they're out to make money by having their company hire the best reporters.

69 posted on 07/21/2002 1:17:16 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: csvset
Actually, it was a retired USAF general.

Thank you for your correction. I hate when I do that. I recently moved and still don't have my own computer up and running that has my links and archives on subjects like this. At one time I was well read up on it. Thanks also for posting that link.

70 posted on 07/21/2002 1:17:24 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: Eagle Eye
Ever hear of David Schippers? The DEMOCRAT who did as much, if not more, than any Republican to try to bring clinton to justice? David Schippers believes that there is more going on with OKC than either administration will admit.

Whoppie do! David Schippers, Im impressed. The guy's not nearly as sharp as when he went after the mob in Chicago years and years ago, but that was when he was young. He obviously didnt know enough to stay away from the impreachment inquiry. I cant remember anyone, Republican or Democrat that that was enhanced by that experience.

71 posted on 07/21/2002 1:20:33 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: happygrl
Or worse.
72 posted on 07/21/2002 1:21:07 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; nuda_veritas
Now, now, Texas girl.
Don't let that old nude verit (whatever in the hell that is!) get your dander up.
He's/she's just a shill for the anti-war crowd.
We're supposed to love these rag-headed mothers who sent thousands of our people to their deaths.
If we talk real nice to them they might leave us alone.
HA!

In Texas we say if they can make that trilling sound, shoot 'em!!
That's REAL Texas manners!

73 posted on 07/21/2002 1:22:07 PM PDT by COB1
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To: Dave S
Obviously you revel in ignorance. My apologies for offering you information.
74 posted on 07/21/2002 1:23:05 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: COB1
LOL......I knew if anyone knew Texas manners, it would be you......... 'course I don't cotton much to someone bitchin about my President either..........
75 posted on 07/21/2002 1:24:30 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: nuda_veritas
Sounds like propaganda from the Bush administration coming at this time onlyweeks before an Iraqi strike, and an election.

This is what you got out of this article?
Bill Clinton darn well knew that this was a bombing by Islamic terrorists, and he used it instead to get himself reelected by blaming the right!
The lap dog media covered it up too, and you would say that this is Bush propaganda?

We are really in trouble as a nation is all I can say, real trouble.

76 posted on 07/21/2002 1:24:46 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Dave S
Ralph R. Reiland is an Associate Professor of Economics at Robert Morris College in Pittsburgh.
77 posted on 07/21/2002 1:25:31 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: spycatcher
If you don't know what the AP has to do with it then you're way out of your league even commenting on this thread. And you act like a commentary based on certain known facts is an unusual and strange bird. Just another example of how out of touch you are.

Before you say Im out of touch, list ten or twenty facts from this article and why you know to a certainty that they are true after all its true that the papers reported that the Dems said the Republicans were going to throw Grandma out into the street. Fact its published, doesnt mean its true.

If you have a whole chain of "facts" and some critical "fact" isnt true, then all the connections you make fall apart.

78 posted on 07/21/2002 1:28:13 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: glorygirl
see post #51, and previous article,post #48

Thanks, I should have known if there was money to make off the deaths of those at OKC, that Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch would be involved.

79 posted on 07/21/2002 1:31:58 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S
I'm sure glad you're here to point out where everyone is wrong.
80 posted on 07/21/2002 1:34:15 PM PDT by SoDak
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