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Study Says State Cigarette Taxes Deter Smoking/I KNEW THEY WOULD SAY THIS!
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| 23 July 2002
Posted on 07/23/2002 2:36:55 PM PDT by SheLion
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When the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation is involved, look out!
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:36:56 PM PDT
by
SheLion
To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; red-dawg; ...
Tax hikes on cigarettes imposed recently by states and cities across the United States are not only filling coffers but are also proving to be a strong deterrent to smoking, an anti-tobacco group said on Monday. If smoking is down, how then, are they "filling state coffers?!"
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:38:20 PM PDT
by
SheLion
To: SheLion
Anything you tax will have a negative effect on consumption. It doesn't take a rocket scientist. The problem is why do people think they have the right to tell you how to live your life by taxing you into submission?
To: *all
reductions in future healthcare costs. Same old song and dance! We smokers pay MORE then our fair share of healthcare costs, IF we have any!
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:39:56 PM PDT
by
SheLion
To: SheLion
How would they know?
If you buy on-line or roll your own and smoke them in the AC comfort of your own home, how the heck to the State Idiots know anything??
Especially if they are basing their numbers on revenue numbers.
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:40:02 PM PDT
by
RikaStrom
To: BlessingInDisguise
Anything you tax will have a negative effect on consumption. The only "negative effect" is: smokers are fed up. Smokers have gone to the Net, to the Reservations, across state lines AND to rolling our own so we do not pay into the state coffers anymore.
I knew that the minute the states weren't realizing the big cash cow from raising cigarette taxes, they would claim that "smokers have dropped off." This is not true.
We have found cheaper ways, and we do not pay into the state coffers any longer.
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:42:33 PM PDT
by
SheLion
To: RikaStrom
Especially if they are basing their numbers on revenue numbers. Exactly, Rika. They aren't realizing the huge cash cow from the increase in cigarette taxes, so they say "Smokers are dropping off." Well, excuse ME! LOL
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:43:53 PM PDT
by
SheLion
To: SheLion
Most smokers do pay into the state coffers.
To: SheLion
Just wait 'til the law of diminishing returns kicks in, then the brilliant Morons we have in government will decide that the taxes have to be raised even more to make up the shortfall. Then they will go around the circle again and again like the mythical bird which flew in ever decreasing circles until it disappeared in its own A$$hole. The requirements to be a politician or a government employee seem to be that they must have the intellect of an idiot.
That's my opinion
To: BlessingInDisguise
Most smokers do pay into the state coffers. Not according to my Puff List. Stick around. Ask any of the conservative smokers in here. We have all gone to other means of smoking and saving money.
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:47:19 PM PDT
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SheLion
To: SheLion
"In several states, consumption declined 20% or more and new revenues in the millions of dollars were still realized,"...Bull-oney. People are increasingly buying from the reservations or off the net.
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:50:44 PM PDT
by
facedown
To: RikaStrom
How would they know?LOL!
Did too, did too, did too.
To: facedown
Bull-oney. People are increasingly buying from the reservations or off the net. facedown, I KNEW the minute the states weren't pulling in the huge bucks when they raised the taxes, they would contribute it to smokers dropping off. This is not true.
Many of us buy off the Net, or the Reservations, or roll our owns and some travel over state lines. That would scare me. I would be the one to get caught.
But smokers haven't dropped off. They are dreaming!
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:53:47 PM PDT
by
SheLion
To: SheLion
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:56:03 PM PDT
by
45Auto
To: SheLion
I have a Native American store about 1 mile from me...across the state border. I can get their brand, comparable to Marlboro, for under $18 a carton, or Marlboro instate for $27 to $35 per carton. Funny, I don't feel one iota of guilt driving that 1 mile.
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:57:49 PM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: SheLion
I would be the one to get caught.You and me both! LOL
I prefer the privacy and semi-anonymity of my monitor screen.
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posted on
07/23/2002 2:59:09 PM PDT
by
facedown
To: BlessingInDisguise
Can you say "inflexible demand?"
I knew you could...
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posted on
07/23/2002 3:00:19 PM PDT
by
patton
To: 45Auto
More Doctors Smoke Camels. LOL! That's a good one! Thank you!!
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posted on
07/23/2002 3:00:44 PM PDT
by
SheLion
To: TomGuy
Funny, I don't feel one iota of guilt driving that 1 mile. Well, the lawmakers sure have no guilt everytime they ban, try to control, restrict and raise taxes on a legal commodity. They want to make adults who choose to smoke carry the weight of the state on their backs. We are working to stop this harassment.
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posted on
07/23/2002 3:02:55 PM PDT
by
SheLion
To: BlessingInDisguise; SheLion
Tax hikes on cigarettes imposed recently by states and cities across the United States are not only filling coffers but are also proving to be a strong deterrent to smoking, an anti-tobacco group said on Monday.
I doubt that's true. But this would work: We the people should tax politicians and bureaucrats out of existence. Then use the tax revenues for promoting only candidates that will repeal at least two hundred laws for each new law they pass.
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posted on
07/23/2002 3:12:10 PM PDT
by
Zon
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