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To: Joe Hadenuf
Actually some of the most rabid envirals I have ever met and seen are native Oregonians. Next are our enviral trash that moved to Oregon in the last decade or so. They are very bad.

We have them here in Kali too.

We love the SW Oregon coast from Brookings to Bandon. We try to get there or to the upper Rogue River area every fall after labor day. I've seen a lot of beautiful coasts, including our great coasts here in California.

However, the coastline from Brookings to Port Orford, Oregon is the most incredible that I have seen.

If I go up by myself to fly fish in the summer time, I will stay in the Deschutes River Area. It is a little too isolated and barren for my wife. She likes the Sisters area if it doesn't burn up this year. I had planned a one week trip to the Deschutes area early next month and have my wife fly up on Thursday night or Friday morning to the Redmond/Sisters area. Then we would drive back together or she would have flown back. Then I could fly fish down 97, then fish to I5 and down.
19 posted on 07/24/2002 10:06:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: EBUCK; dixiechick2000; madfly; brityank; farmfriend; AuntB; blackie; All
Here is one of the prime problems with the envirals, senators like Da$$hole.

Da$$hole, Boxer, ChiFiFrankestein and other rat senators have endorsed no roads, no removal of dead trees and no brush removal in our forests and national parks. This has made every forest and national park a tinder box ready to explode. This tinder boxing was enabled by the Clintoon.

Here is a link to Da$$hole quietly trying to get an exemption in his home state to allow logging to prevent this tinder box situation. However, he only wants it in his home state. (link)

Daschle seeks environmental exemption Washington Times | 7/24/02 | Audrey Hudson

Posted on 07/24/2002 10:29 AM Pacific by purplegirl

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle quietly slipped into a spending bill language exempting his home state of South Dakota from environmental regulations and lawsuits, in order to allow logging in an effort to prevent forest fires.

The move discovered yesterday by fellow lawmakers angered Western legislators whose states were forced to obey those same rules as they battled catastrophic wildfires.

"What's good for the Black Hills should be good for every forest in the United States," said Sen. Larry E. Craig, Idaho Republican and chairman of the Senate Republican Policy Committee.

Mr. Daschle, a Democrat, said the language to expedite logging is essential to reduce the timber growth that can fuel wildfires.

"As we have seen in the last several weeks, the fire danger in the Black Hills is high and we need to get crews on the ground as soon as possible to reduce this risk and protect property and lives," Mr. Daschle said in a statement late Monday night after a House-Senate conference committee agreed on the language.

The language was tucked inside the defense supplemental spending bill, which passed the House last night by a 397-32 vote. The overall measure, which spends $29 billion, will be taken up by the Senate today. The provision says that "due to extraordinary circumstances," timber activities will be exempt from the National Forest Management Act and National Environmental Policy Act, is not subject to notice, comment or appeal requirements under the Appeals Reform Act, and is not subject to judicial review by any U.S. court.

More than 20 lawsuits, appeals or reviews are blocking timber projects to remove fuel from the Black Hills — some bottled up in bureaucracy since 1985, say Republican aides.

"After hearing all the hand-wringing from environmentalists downplaying the impact of appeals and litigation, it's nice to see that the highest-ranking Democrat in the nation agrees that these frivolous challenges have totally crippled forest managers," said Rep. Scott McInnis, Colorado Republican and chairman of the House Resources subcommittee on forests and forest health.

20 posted on 07/24/2002 10:08:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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