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Police State, American Style
LFET ^ | Russell Madden

Posted on 07/24/2002 8:09:58 PM PDT by Sir Gawain

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To: tpaine
BTW, statements like the above sorta imply you think you're a 'big one'.

Stay on the newspaper when piddling or you get no treat.

61 posted on 07/25/2002 12:27:26 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: tpaine
Well I know that OWK can be found at Liberty Forum but who is JR and why should I care?
62 posted on 07/25/2002 12:31:16 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
To: Jolly Rodgers
Yes, of course. It is "feelings" that count.


How true. - You have the man pegged, dead to rights.

46 posted on 7/24/02 11:46 PM Pacific by tpaine
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63 posted on 07/25/2002 12:33:58 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Sir Gawain
"United States of America is a fascistic police state ..."

Not yet...but it well on the way to becoming such a place.

..most of the systems that are needed to create a 'Police State' exist now.

redrock

64 posted on 07/25/2002 12:36:54 AM PDT by redrock
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To: Texasforever
OWK posted that sentiment to JimRob once upon a time.

You should care, cause spewing your hate only makes YOU look like an idiot. - And I gotta love that.
65 posted on 07/25/2002 12:38:31 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
LMAO. Goodnight little one. I am glad that you have joined the Republican Party. I am sure that comes as a great relief to the Libertarians. They have more than their share of embarrassments to deal with without you. The GOP "big tent" will absorb you without too much effort.
66 posted on 07/25/2002 12:38:56 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Dream on, - you big pile.
67 posted on 07/25/2002 12:41:56 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Sir Gawain
The writer quotes many of the authors appropriate to the topic... Rand, Wolfe, Zelman. (I would have done without Chicago band members however that is possibly just an excess of personal taste and/or a need to fill empty column space.)

The Patriot Act along with several measures passed as part of the Contract on -- woops -- with America, perhaps do not so much explicitly institute a police state so much as make it socially acceptable to discuss the concepts central to such a state. All of Rand's criteria, and probably more, can now be "justified" in certain contexts at the cocktail party level as being necessary to wage the war against terrorism, which we are constantly reminded will never end and which does not stop within national borders. This is surely a stage that Germany arrived at in prior to electing Hitler Chancellor in the early 1930's. The Patriot Act and so on just serve to blur the principles that at one time used to keep the country safe from destruction from within.

Communism -- woops -- fascism is really driven by corporate profit motivation and economies of scale. With the fundamental principles of liberty blurred, government is free to overrun the boundaries without firm check. It may not any longer be a matter of if, but only when.

If the conservatives and libertarians had the concept of a "doomsday clock" to fascism, I would guess that it would show something like 11:25PM. Perhaps a few minutes earlier or later. The frightening thing is that I can hardly imagine such a clock ever moving backwards given American history of the past century or so. The pessimistic view is that someday the existence of a sufficient common threat will coincide with the ascendance of some charismatic but coldblooded leader, and the America of principles and liberty will join other great but ultimately failed civilizations as just another dusty chapter of world history.

68 posted on 07/25/2002 1:13:53 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: Texasforever
OK then , rather than using the sometimes ambiguous term "conservative" let me just say that I am a believe in a Constitutional Republic of limited and enumerated powers.

Check out my profile for my positions.
69 posted on 07/25/2002 1:25:44 AM PDT by parthur
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To: dighton; weikel; aculeus; Orual; Poohbah; general_re; Madame de Winter; Texasforever
"Will do. I'll put the blinds, blinkers, etc. in their proper positions."

I'm sorry, but it has been reported to BOPPOB (the Bureau of Proper Positions of Blinds) that your blinds were left in the incorrect position.

Please report to the nearest Gulag or Concentration Camp of your choice within 72 hours. Depending on your skills and training, you will need to pack nothing except a shower cap for your stay (as it will be, regrettably, extremely short) or you will need to pack everything you own (as you will be remaining as our guest on a permanent basis).

However, we won't know which one is applicable for you until you arrive at your destination camp and are screened. So, you either need to pack nothing except a shower cap or everything you own. Be warned, though, that, in the event that your itinerary is of the shortened variety, the State will be charging you for an eternity of storage for your belongings if you bring them and they are left behind upon your "departure".

Have a nice day.
Ima Worrywort
Elite Møøsenspåånkengruppen OberKømmååndø (EMØØK)

70 posted on 07/25/2002 4:57:29 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: Texasforever
Then Bush had better hurry huh? He only has 2 years. Right?

Actually, Hillary will use them to haul them off. And you will whine like a baby. I hope she has you hauled away first.

71 posted on 07/25/2002 7:24:28 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Texasforever
Every action taken to date should have been in the narrow context of a nation at war and not in the form of permanent laws that are now left for court challenge if they are ever to be over turned.

Holy crap, you do have a clue and you are able to add something useful to the conversation.

72 posted on 07/25/2002 7:36:51 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: dighton
In other words, why haven't THEY dragged Mr. Madden off to some Dachau?

Because that hasn't been necessary.

73 posted on 07/25/2002 7:39:03 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Sir Gawain
Russ Madden smokes the funny weed :~)
74 posted on 07/25/2002 7:43:48 AM PDT by verity
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To: BlueLancer
LOL
75 posted on 07/25/2002 7:53:59 AM PDT by weikel
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To: BlueLancer
last night they kicked down dighton's door. they beat him. they beat him some more. then they dragged him away. i am so lonely. please come here and open a can of food.

-- dighton's cat

76 posted on 07/25/2002 8:09:45 AM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
To dighton's cat ...

Sorry you're on your own. However, I'm flat-out getting BlueLancer to feed me anything other than canned artichokes and gummi bears.

Let me know where you live and I'll drag BlueLancer over there and we can both work HIM over, and eat HIM when we're done.

BlueLancer's cat

78 posted on 07/25/2002 8:15:20 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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79 posted on 07/25/2002 11:25:51 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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80 posted on 07/25/2002 11:25:59 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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