Posted on 07/25/2002 5:08:14 PM PDT by aculeus
This is called cleaning up the evidence. How Bush could pick the now fired John McGaw, former BATF head to run Transportation Security is amazing.
From ------ http://www.newsday.com/ny-wolond042398290oct04.story
"On Monday, police detained Mohammed Jameel, 25, Sakina's operations director, under Britain's Terrorism Act, which allows them to hold suspects without charge for several days. For the past three years, Jameel, a British citizen, organized training camps in the English countryside for young Muslims to learn hand-to-hand combat and survival techniques."
[Oct. 4, 2001] "But FBI officials in Washington said they had no information on Sakina or Jameel.
Michigan officials said they had no record of any company named Sakina. "To my knowledge they don't have to be licensed, they don't have to get any particular permits to operate a gun range," said State Police spokesman Mike Prince."
"British investigators say the training took place at rented shooting ranges in Michigan, Missouri and Virginia." [ but not Alabama] [Missouri is a short drive to Oklahoma]
Everyone on the Hill who knew anything back then is now desperately trying to act as if they didn't. At the same time, they must be slowly realizing there's just no stopping this one. It's too big.
Serves 'em right. They never should have caved in to Bill and his stolen FBI files in the first place, or whatever it was that made them cower down to his inflammatory "evil Limbaugh, right-wing" rhetoric.
I'd love to see the sick, bilious look on each one of their faces as more and more reporters call them for interviews about OKC. In fact, I think we need to attach a name to that bilious look and start calling it "McCollumitis."
An Oklahoma Mystery: New hints of links between Timothy McVeigh and Middle Eastern terrorists
by Jim Crogan
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/02/35/news-crogan.phpBack in 1995, several Congressional Committees did search for international ties to the Oklahoma City attack, but came up empty, explained former Representative Bill McCollum in an interview. Still, the reports issued by the House Republican Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, which McCollum chaired until 1995, were quite prescient.
"The task force was on the mark when it came to their warnings about the emerging threat of Middle Eastern terrorism," McCollum said. "I can tell you that we were very concerned about the possibility of a Middle East connection to Oklahoma City. But we never found any evidence there was one."
McCollum, however, said he never heard of the reporting done by TV journalist Jayna Davis, which connected McVeigh and Nichols with Middle Eastern figures in Oklahoma City and the Philippines. Nor did he know of Davis' ongoing communications with Yossef Bodansky, executive director of the Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare. "Seffy [Bodansky] never told me anything about that," he said. "This is all news to me."
Get a clue, guys. Just shut up and do something about it now and stop thinking you can keep it buried, you morons. Americans are a forgiving people. Just stop lying!
Go, Dan Burton, go!
The motel owner said he and his staff reported this information to the FBI in 1995. "We did have an ATF agent come out and collect the originals of the room registrations for that period, but we never heard back from them. And I never could get the registrations returned."
McVeigh and a bunch of Iraqis moving drums of diesel on a flatbed truck.
Huh.
Nothing to see here.
And, just to be certain, we'll take the originals of the room registrations.
Look up here at my flashlight. . .hold it. . .FLASH--
You were saying. . . .
But we don't have to speculate: We know how the bombs for the embassy bombings were made: http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/01032054.htm and we know these were not one-man, one-night operations.
SNIP
A former desk clerk at the motel -- a different clerk from the one who purportedly dealt with Atta and Moussaoui -- told the Weekly that he remembered Menepta because in 1994 and 1995 -- prior to the Oklahoma City attack -- Menepta frequently visited the motel office. There, he bought coffee and talked for hours to this clerk.
The clerk and his wife, who both formerly worked at the motel, said they picked Menepta's picture out of a photo lineup prepared by a law-enforcement officer who had interviewed the motel owner.
any comments from the peanut gallery?
ONE REASON FOR THE FBI'S APPARent lack of interest might be this motel's alleged connection to Timothy McVeigh and a group of Iraqis who worked in Oklahoma City. According to the motel owner and other witnesses and investigators interviewed by the Weekly, McVeigh and several of these Iraqis were motel guests in the months preceding the 1995 bombing. Witnesses also claimed they saw several of the Iraqis moving barrels of material around on the bed of a truck. The motel owner said the material smelled of diesel fuel and he had to clean up a spill. Diesel fuel was a key component of the truck bomb that blew up the Federal Building.
The motel owner said he and his staff reported this information to the FBI in 1995.
Reporter: Kara Kaswell, News 4
November 7, 2001 7:44 PM
(KMOV) -- The FBI wants to know more about Mujahid Menepta's alleged ties to terrorism. Menepta is friends with an associate of Osama bin Laden who is considered to be the "20th hijacker" involved in the terrorists attacks. Menepta, who grew up in North St. Louis, was arrested in a federal roundup following the attacks. He is now charged with illegal possession of firearms.
(supposed to be a photo of Menepta here, but a photo of Moussaoui is inserted above Menepta's mame)
Mujahid Menepta (KMOV)
Menepta defends his friend who is accused of having ties to the hijackers and September 11 terrorist attacks. Zacarias Moussaoui was arrested after seeking pilot training to steer but not land jets. Menepta says his friend is no terrorist.
Days after a TV interview, Menepta, a St. Louis native who has a felony arrest record, was arrested for possessing three guns, including a semi-automatic pistol.
"They had a lot of questions, no doubt about that," says Chester Buchanan.
One of the pistols seized from Menepta was registered to Buchanan of St. Louis. He says the gun was stolen in August. Menepta told the FBI he bought the gun on the street in St. Louis for $125. The FBI questioned Buchanan about the gun.
"What they told me is that the gun was found with a man that might be connected to September 11 and the terrorists. I was stunned, I sure was," Buchanan says.
Menepta grew up Melvin Lattimore in a duplex on Maple in North St. Louis. He attended Soldan High School where he played football. In 1989, he converted to Islam and changed his name.
"I think it's unfair that the government has him in jail. It's a conspiracy on the government's part," says Leon Lattimore, Menepta's brother.
Lattimore says Menepta often prayed at a storefront mosque on Geraldine in North St. Louis and he adds that his brother's religion does not advocate violence and that Menepta is definitely no terrorist.
"I think they are jumping to conclusions. My brother is terrorist nothing," Lattimore says.
Wednesday, a federal court denied bond to Menepta. Instead, they want to further investigate his possible ties to terrorists. He roomed with Moussaoui, who has been linked to the hijackers. An FBI agent also said Wednesday in court that North St. Louis mosque where he worshipped did at one time stockpile weapons.
Moussaoui's friend gets prison term
A Norman man who came under federal investigation because of his friendship with accused terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui was sentenced Wednesday to 15 months in federal prison.
Majahid Abdulquaadir Menepta, 51, admitted to being a convicted felon in possession of firearms and was sentenced by U.S. District Judge David Russell.
However, Menepta's association with the accused terrorist during the general time period when Moussaoui was undergoing flight training in Norman is the reason Menepta came under suspicion.
Moussaoui was indicted in December on a federal charge of conspiring with Osama bin Laden, the 19 hijackers and others to carry out the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and the Pentagon in which more than 3,000 people were killed.
After Moussaoui's arrest, Menepta told The Oklahoman that he had seen Moussaoui daily at a Norman mosque, had shared meals with him and believed his friend was being made a "scapegoat."
Federal agents investigating the attacks arrested Menepta on a material witness warrant Oct. 11. During a search of his home, agents found a loaded Chinese military-style semiautomatic rifle, a 12- gauge shotgun and a loaded .380- caliber pistol, as well as knives and a bag of ammunition.
Menepta is prohibited from owning guns because he was convicted in 1971 in Colorado of a felony -- aggravated robbery. He spent more than three years in prison.
Menepta also was arrested in 1997 during a demonstration in St. Louis and was put on probation for carrying a concealed weapon.
Menepta was born in Missouri as Melvin Lattimore. He converted to Islam and changed his name in 1989.
An informant told the FBI in 1995 that Menepta was a violent individual who belonged to a radical Islamic group that hated the United States and talked of destroying government targets.
However, Susan Otto(McVeigh's first attorney), Menepta's defense attorney, told Russell on Wednesday her client credits his conversion to Islam with turning his life around and "saving him from a life of bad behavior
November 10, 2001
No Bail for Friend of Man Suspected of Preparing for Sept. 11 Hijackings
By JO THOMAS
An Oklahoma friend of Zacarias Moussaoui, the man the authorities suspect was meant to be the 20th suicide hijacker in the Sept. 11 attacks, has been ordered held without bail on weapons charges by a federal magistrate in Oklahoma City.
The Oklahoma man, Mujahid Abdulqaadir Menepta, 51, who was arrested on Oct. 11 and taken to New York as a material witness in the World Trade Center investigation, is dangerous and poses a flight risk, Jeffrey Whitney, an agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, testified at a hearing on Wednesday. He made no specific reference to Mr. Moussaoui.
Without offering many details, Mr. Whitney told the court that some telephone numbers connected with cellphones seized in a search of Mr. Menepta's home in Norman were associated with continuing criminal investigations in Oklahoma City, St. Louis, Detroit, El Paso and Kansas City, Mo. These involve organized crime, drugs and money laundering, he said.
Mr. Whitney told the court that Mr. Menepta, who was born Melvin Lattimore in St. Louis, and changed his name in 1989 after converting to Islam, came to the attention of the authorities the day after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. He testified that an informer told federal agents that Mr. Menepta had belonged to an Islamic group in Norman and St. Louis, whose leaders advocated terrorist acts and killing law enforcement agents.
Mr. Whitney also told the court that Mr. Menepta had said the Secret Service told him that one of the terrorists who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993 had used his visa number. Mr. Whitney said he could not confirm Mr. Menepta's account.
After the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Menepta, who lives in Norman, gave several interviews in which he defended Mr. Moussaoui, 33, whom he knew through a mosque. Mr. Moussaoui, a French citizen of Moroccan descent was arrested in Minneapolis on Aug. 17 on immigration charges after he sought lessons on how to fly jets, but expressed no interest in learning how to take off or land.
Mr. Moussaoui lived in Norman last year while a student at the Airman Flight School there. Mr. Menepta told The Daily Oklahoman in an interview on Oct. 2 that he had seen Mr. Moussaoui every day at a local mosque and would be shocked if he were involved in the attacks.
"I think he's a scapegoat," Mr. Menepta told the newspaper in an article published on Oct. 9.
He was arrested as a material witness two days later. Shortly afterward, federal agents said they found a shotgun, a rifle, a semiautomatic pistol and more than 600 rounds of ammunition at Mr. Menepta's home. He told the agents he used the shotgun for hunting.
Mr. Menepta served time in prison for a 1970 robbery in Colorado and was charged with being a felon in possession of firearms.
Susan Otto(McVeigh's first defense attorney), Mr. Menepta's lawyer in Oklahoma City, on Wednesday questioned the truthfulness of the government's informer and observed that no one had been charged with a crime back in 1995.
Mr. Menepta's mother, Cynthia Lattimore, 87, said her son collected guns, nothing more. "He just likes guns," she said. "Not to kill nobody."
Now this. I'm reaching for my tin foil.
"I asked him what they were doing here in the area. And Atta,/b> told me they were going to flight school. I thought he meant [Federal Aviation Administration] training in Oklahoma City. But Atta told me no, they were taking flight training in Norman.
"I said I didn't understand why they wanted to rent one of my rooms, since we were about 28 miles from Norman and there are a lot of reasonably priced motels a lot closer. But he said they had heard good things about my place and wanted to stay there.
so who recommended the place in the 1st place? tim mcveigh or HAH?
btw, what was the name of the place?
Criticizing the FBI
As a U.S. citizen and Muslim convert, Mujahid Abdulqaadir Menepta was the perfect person to serve as a liaison between the Muslim community in Norman and the outside world.
So when the international press came calling after Sept. 11 to discuss Moussaoui, the outspoken Menepta stepped up. Like others at the mosque, he said he knew Moussaoui but found him difficult to like.
Still, Menepta told reporters, he had doubts about Moussaoui's alleged connections to Al Qaeda. Menepta recalled a conversation in which Moussaoui said that football was against the tenets of Islam because it is a form of violence between men.
Menepta, 52, related that story to the press, but he went further, criticizing the FBI for conducting a witch hunt in the wake of the detentions of Alattas and others.
Within days, on Oct. 11, Menepta himself was arrested as a material witness, according to federal court records.
The material witness arrest came even though Menepta had cooperated with investigators, granting numerous interviews to numerous agents between Sept. 11 and his arrest, according to the testimony of a federal agent.
"They told me I was under arrest but wasn't charged with anything," Menepta said in a telephone interview from the Oklahoma County Detention Center. "We went through that for about two hours. It was like, `Who's on second base?'"
Menepta was sent to New York, where he was held in solitary confinement, records show, making his case one of the few to come to light nationwide involving the detention of a U.S. citizen as a material witness.
Before being shipped to Manhattan, Menepta had told federal agents in Oklahoma that he had three guns in his Norman home, including an assault-style weapon, that were recovered through a search warrant, records show. More than 30 years ago, Menepta was convicted on an aggravated robbery charge in Colorado, making it a federal crime for him to possess a weapon.
After he was cleared as a material witness in New York, he was sent back to Oklahoma City to face federal charges for being a felon in possession of a firearm, records show.
"It's certainly not a secret that we come to search his house in connection with the [Sept. 11] investigation," said McCampbell, the U.S. attorney in Oklahoma. But even though Menepta had no links to terrorism, he said, "we found a crime and we prosecuted it."
Menepta is one of more than 100 people picked up nationwide in the Sept. 11 sweep to face criminal charges unrelated to the attacks. His arrest sent shock waves through the Muslim community in Norman.
"It was like, if they can do this to a citizen for speaking out, they can do this to any of us," said one Muslim immigrant who attends the Norman mosque and spoke on condition that he not be named.
A federal judge ordered Menepta held without bond. He pleaded guilty to the gun charge and earlier this month received a 15-month jail sentence.
His now-estranged wife also got caught in the dragnet. While interviewing her about her husband, agents discovered she had yet to report her recent marriage to Menepta to state welfare authorities. During that period, she allegedly collected more than $1,000 in housing benefits, $644 in public assistance and $789 in food stamps. State authorities hit her with charges related to welfare fraud.
Now Menepta wonders what will become of him when his seven remaining months of confinement are up.
After his sentencing, he says, the prosecutor on the case wished him luck.
"Good luck? What am I going to do? Where am I going to work?" Menepta said from a jail pay phone. "It's insinuated that I am a terrorist. . . . So who will hire me? This is just going to be an ongoing thing."
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