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To: Swordmaker
"I find it most interesting that Asmodeus has posted his 'timeline' only ONCE (reply #754), and then not stressing it, since I posted my timeline (reply #718) which shattered his contentions."

I've provided the readers with this clickable link to it many times since then.

Stripped of the voluminous huffnpuff, you appear to be contending the following in your #718:

8:30:10 - Meyer sees "meteor like" streak flash accross his field of view.

8:31:13 - Meyer sees bright white Ordnance type explosion at 13,840 feet

8:31:39 - Meyer sees Massive Fireball explode at 7000 feet

In summary, you appear to be contending that there was approximately 63 seconds elapsed time between Meyer's first observation of the streak and his observation of bright white light ordnance type explosion at approximately 13,800 feet and an additional 26 seconds elapsed time between Meyer's observation of the bright white light ordnance type explosion and his observation of the Massive Fireball explosion at approximately 7000 feet.

Add the elapsed time estimate of 10 seconds falltime of the Massive Fireball flames to the surface agreed upon by Meyer and his crewmates at the time, and the total elapsed time of Meyer's observations of fiery events in the sky would have to be 63+26+10=99 seconds approximately.

The Interesting Reports of Witness Frederick Meyer

942 posted on 09/04/2002 11:33:16 AM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: Asmodeus; Swordmaker
Stripped of the voluminous huffnpuff, you appear to be contending the following in your #718:

Do facts and logical analysis constitutate what you refer to as "huffnpuff"?

8:30:10 - Meyer sees "meteor like" streak flash accross his field of view.

Asmodeus, for once you have a point. That should be ~8:31:10, and I have said as much in previous posts. I did forget to ask Swordmaker to make the change to the timeline however...

There is also the matter of the INITIAL fireball, which occured at about 8:31:15.

More info on that and other timeline considerations can be viewed in post #743.

952 posted on 09/04/2002 4:38:03 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Asmodeus
In summary, you appear to be contending that there was approximately 63 seconds elapsed time between Meyer's first observation of the streak and his observation of bright white light ordnance type explosion at approximately 13,800 feet and an additional 26 seconds elapsed time between Meyer's observation of the bright white light ordnance type explosion and his observation of the Massive Fireball explosion at approximately 7000 feet.

Add the elapsed time estimate of 10 seconds falltime of the Massive Fireball flames to the surface agreed upon by Meyer and his crewmates at the time, and the total elapsed time of Meyer's observations of fiery events in the sky would have to be 63+26+10=99 seconds approximately.

Asmodeus... if you read the entire reply #718 you will see that the total for the timeline is mentioned... and it does not represent 99 seconds.

The timeline was presented in chronological order and if you will notice the FIRST entry is:

20:31:00 - Plane flying normally, altitude 13,400 ft., climbing at 33 ft/sec.

Which is then followed by three entries in which I made a TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR: I typed the minutes as being "30:" instead of "31:". To save time and typing I was pasting in the time and editing it. It s MY error and I am totally responsible for it. In all honesty, I thought I had corrected those times before posting. Obviously I did not. However, had you read and understood the entire post, you would have known this and NOT taken the error out of context to make it a point of contention.

21:30:04 - Possible ground-to-air missile launch. Rate of climb accelerates to Mach 2.1.

21:30:07 - Mike Wire notices flare like object rising over house and arcing to left. in the next 8 seconds many more people notice streak, firework, etc.

21:30:10 - Major Fred Meyer sees "meteor like" object flash acorss his field of view.

20:31:12 - ~13,800 ft. - 0 sec. Last transponder return, everything normal, Aircraft climbing at 33 ft./second.

It is obvious from the context, the totals at the end of the posting that the times were inclusive and totalled approximately 56 seconds. Had I meant 99 seconds, I would have said it.

956 posted on 09/04/2002 6:01:47 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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