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USO Canteen FReeper Style....Rocky Versace Tribute.... July 28,2002
Thank you Coteblanche for the Capel and Faraday for the research .......Snow Bunny

Posted on 07/28/2002 1:31:09 AM PDT by Snow Bunny

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If you know a Veteran, someone in your family,
friend of the family, neighbor, who served their
country, take a brief moment of your day to thank them.
Thank them for the sacrifice they made
for the better good of their country.

We at Free Republic, and the USO Canteen FReeper Style,
are thankful for every service member
in our military, who has served our great nation.

So, to the men and women who answered the call,
in both times of war and peace, thank you.

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Although we are always aware
that the Canteen is operating
in Cyberspace, we want the troops
and anyone who is on the receiving end
of prayers at the Canteen,
to know that these prayers are very real.

I hope the troops and Canteeners
alike, will view this Canteen Chapel,
as a place where you might go in times of
trouble, or times of joy, to be with your God.

"Come unto me all ye who are weary and burdened,
and I will give you rest." (Matt: 11:28).

Amazing Grace

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We at the Canteen Salute Rocky Versace
“He traveled to a distant land to fight to bring freedom.......”

The highest award for valor in action against an enemy force which can be bestowed upon an individual serving in the Armed Services of the United States

Unlike the Air Force, Navy and Marines, the Army never before has awarded a Medal of Honor to a POW from Vietnam for heroism during captivity.
Versace's heroism spanned almost two years

"His is a story of a remarkable, unyielding spirit and an uncompromising fierce defiance -- the courage never to submit or yield," Shinseki said. "It is the story of a soldier who, in the worst of circumstances, demonstrated all that is best about our profession and our values. It is a story about a man subjected to the most relentless atrocities who persevered -- and in doing so, revealed an unwavering strength of character that inspired all who witnessed his triumph over his tormentors."....... Army Chief of Staff Gen. Eric K. Shinseki

An Alexandria native, Capt. Versace, 25, was a few days away from joining the priesthood when he was captured by Viet Cong guerrillas in October 1963 as he accompanied an operation near U Minh Forest.

Captain Versace remained optimistically defiant as a POW

Army Captain Rocky Versace spent 23 months as a prisoner of the Viet Cong. Being the ranking officer in the prison camp, Versace loudly and defiantly demanded humane treatment for his fellow captors. Captain Versace only had two more weeks of duty left before he could leave Vietnam but was among those caught in an ambush.

He was held captive in bamboo cages, 6 feet long, 2 feet wide and 3 feet high.

After trying to escape , Versace was shackled. He was kept flat on his back and often gagged in a tiny, dark isolation cage. The captors often paraded the prisoners around the villages, pulling them by a rope tied around their necks. Versace, his head swollen, his hair white and skin yellowed by jaundice, was pulled around villages.

Versace's defiance grew even as his condition worsened, infuriating his captors.

Versace's untreated leg became badly infected, but within three weeks he tried to escape, dragging himself on his hands and knees. Guards soon discovered him crawling in the swamp. Back in camp, they twisted his injured leg.

Three times, after receiving tips about Versace's whereabouts, U.S. advisers launched helicopters to rescue him, and three times they came back empty-handed, taking heavy casualties on one occasion.

His youth shows early signs of being the man be became.

Living with his grandmother and aunt, Versace spent his senior year at Catholic High while the rest of his family was stationed in Germany.

Strong-willed was the common way friends and loved ones described Versace.

Born on July 2, 1937, he was the oldest of five children. His father's career in the Army meant the family moved often. Versace filled the void left by his father's regular absences, his family said.

``He could pretty much drive anybody crazy,'' said Stephen Versace, a professor at the University of Maryland. ``There was no gray for Rocky and he lived that way. Right is right. Wrong is wrong.''

He attended Frankfurt American High School in Frankfurt, Germany, during the 1953-54 school year, a member of the class of 1955 though he actually graduated in 1955 from Norfolk Catholic High School

As the end of high school approached, Rocky Versace struggled with a choice: West Point or the priesthood.

He picked the Army.

The first call to rise at West Point came every morning at 5:45, said Gurr, who is now retired outside Charlottesville. Most of the cadets slid back toward their bunks after the first rise and shine.

Not Versace. He'd walk over toward the chapel.

``Into the cold, dark winter,'' Gurr remembered. ``And there he goes.''

At 6-foot-1 and 185 pounds, Versace excelled at sports, too, winning the intermural wrestling championship at West Point.

Capt. Humbert Roque "Rocky" Versace receives his 90-day combat infantry badge from his father, Col. Humbert Joseph Versace.

Versace's father, Humbert Versace, died brokenhearted within a few years of his son's death His mother, author Tere Versace, never stopped believing her son would emerge from the jungle.

"My mother, she never gave up," said one of Rocky's brothers, Dick Versace, president of the National Basketball Association's Vancouver Grizzlies. "Until she died, she thought he'd come walking out of those jungles any day."

After graduation, he went to Korea, then Vietnam in 1962 as a military adviser. He asked for and received a six-month extension of his Vietnam tour in the Mekong Delta.

Versace immersed himself in Vietnamese culture and the delta town of Camau. He created dispensaries, procured tin sheeting to replace thatch roofs and arranged for tons of bulgur wheat to feed family pigs, Price said. He wrote to schools in the United States and got soccer balls for village playgrounds.

``He was so eager to accomplish his mission of gathering intelligence that it was bound to get him into trouble sooner or later,'' retired Lt. Gen. Howard G. Crowell Jr., who bunked with Versace, told a historian preparing the Medal of Honor application.

In a 1962 Christmas letter to his family, Versace wrote from Vietnam: "I am convinced that your taxpayers' money is being put to a very worthy cause-that of freeing the Vietnamese people from an organized Communist threat aimed at the same nasty things all Communists want-at denying this country and its wonderful people a chance to better themselves.... Many among the poor and remote people are responding to a government that can and does help them and protect them. I have found villagers and ordinary soldiers and farmers to be wonderful people."

By 1963, Capt. Versace had had enough. Scheduled to return home, Versace planned to leave the Army and study to become a priest with the Maryknoll Order missionaries.

But Versace was captured on Oct. 29 by the Viet Cong, sustaining three bullets to one leg, shrapnel wounds and a blow to his head.

As the senior member of the imprisoned Americans, Versace insisted that his captors follow the Geneva Convention rules on humanitarian treatment, according to his fellow prisoners.

He sang popular American songs to lift morale. He berated his guards, who in turn shackled and gagged him.

``He wouldn't just say nothing,'' Gurr said. ``Rocky's nature was combative and stubborn. He would yell and curse. They were wrong, communism was wrong and he wasn't afraid to say so.''

Adding to the Viet Cong's ire, Gurr said, Versace rebuked them in French and Vietnamese. ``And he paid the price,'' Gurr said.

H e was kept hungry. His captors placed him in a tiger cage, its bamboo walls only 6 feet long, 2 feet wide and 3 feet high.

`Like a coffin,'' Gurr said.

For other prisoners, the guards thatched only the top to beat back the heat. For Versace, they covered the sides to turn up the temperature.

``He went from 185 pounds down to something over 100,'' Gurr said. John Gurr, one of his classmates from West Point and a member of the grass-roots Friends of Rocky Versace.

He attempted to escape three times. But in September 1965, North Vietnamese radio announced that he and another American prisoner had been executed in reply to the death of three terrorists in Da Nang.

The villagers stated that CPT Versace not only resisted the Viet Cong attempts to get him to admit war crimes and aggression, but would verbally and convincingly counter the VC assertions in a loud voice so that the villagers could hear. The local rice farmers were surprised at CPT Versace's strength of character and his unwavering commitment to his God and the United States.

CPT Versace's tenacious and heroic adherence to the Code of Conduct was in keeping with the absolutely highest standards of the United States Army and centuries of Ranger tradition. At no point from capture to execution, despite torture and isolation, did CPT Versace provide his captors with any information other than name, rank. Serial number and date of birth.

CPT Versace fought to protect his comrades until seriously wounded by BAR fire. He was about to literally sacrifice himself by attacking the Viet Cong with his remaining seven carbine rounds when wounded. In captivity he was willing to accept death rather than compromise the Ranger Creed, Code of Conduct, and the ideals of Duty, Honor, and Country. As senior American POW, CPT Versace deliberately forced his captors to focus their harsh treatment on him rather that the other American prisoners. His Ranger training, his unshakable belief in God and Country sustained him throughout his captivity until his death.

Villagers added that the worse he appeared physically, the more he smiled and talked about God and America.

His remains have never been found.

"Freedoms Song”

Artist Matt Hall specially commissioned for the Congressional Medal of Honor Society, depicting Captain Versace singing to while a POW.

President Bush Awards Posthumous Medal of Honor to Vietnam War Hero

CAPTAIN HUMBERT R. VERSACE
UNITED STATES ARMY

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty:
Captain Humbert R. Versace distinguished himself by extraordinary heroism during the period of 29 October 1963 to 26 September 1965, while serving as S-2 Advisor, Military Assistance Advisory Group, Detachment 52, Ca Mau, Republic of Vietnam.

While accompanying a Civilian Irregular Defense Group patrol engaged in combat operations in Thoi Binh District, An Xuyen Province, Captain Versace and the patrol came under sudden and intense mortar, automatic weapons, and small arms fire from elements of a heavily armed enemy battalion.

As the battle raged, Captain Versace, although severely wounded in the knee and back by hostile fire, fought valiantly and continued to engage enemy targets. Weakened by his wounds and fatigued by the fierce firefight, Captain Versace stubbornly resisted capture by the over-powering Viet Cong force with the last full measure of his strength and ammunition.

Taken prisoner by the Viet Cong, he exemplified the tenets of the Code of Conduct from the time he entered into Prisoner of War status.

Captain Versace assumed command of his fellow American soldiers, scorned the enemy's exhaustive interrogation and indoctrination efforts, and made three unsuccessful attempts to escape, despite his weakened condition which was brought about by his wounds and the extreme privation and hardships he was forced to endure.

During his captivity, Captain Versace was segregated in an isolated prisoner of war cage, manacled in irons for prolonged periods of time, and placed on extremely reduced ration.

The enemy was unable to break his indomitable will, his faith in God, and his trust in the United States of America.

Captain Versace, an American fighting man who epitomized the principles of his country and the Code of Conduct, was executed by the Viet Cong on 26 September 1965.

Captain Versace's gallant actions in close contact with an enemy force and unyielding courage and bravery while a prisoner of war are in the highest traditions of the military service and reflect the utmost credit upon himself and the United States Army.

“Good afternoon, and welcome to the White House. It's a -- this is a special occasion. I am honored to be a part of the gathering as we pay tribute to a true American patriot, and a hero, Captain Humbert "Rocky" Versace.

Nearly four decades ago, his courage and defiance while being held captive in Vietnam cost him his life. Today it is my great privilege to recognize his extraordinary sacrifices by awarding him the Medal of Honor.

I appreciate Secretary Anthony Principi, the Secretary from the Department of Veteran Affairs, for being here. Thank you for coming, Tony. I appreciate Senator George Allen and Congressman Jim Moran. I want to thank Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Secretary of Defense; and General Pete Pace, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs; Army General Eric Shinseki -- thank you for coming, sir. I appreciate David Hicks being here. He's the Deputy Chief of Chaplains for the United States Army.

I want to thank the entire Versace family for coming -- three brothers and a lot of relatives. Brothers, Dick and Mike and Steve, who's up here on the stage with me today. I appreciate the classmates and friends and supporters of Rocky for coming. I also want to thank the previous Medal of Honor recipients who are here with us today. That would be Harvey Barnum and Brian Thacker and Roger Donlon. Thank you all for coming.

Rocky grew up in this area and attended Gonzaga College High School, right here in Washington, D.C. One of his fellow soldiers recalled that Rocky was the kind of person you only had to know a few weeks before you felt like you'd known him for years. Serving as an intelligence advisor in the Mekong Delta, he quickly befriended many of the local citizens. He had that kind of personality. During his time there he was accepted into the seminary, with an eye toward eventually returning to Vietnam to be able to work with orphans.

Rocky was also a soldier's soldier -- a West Point graduate, a Green Beret, who lived and breathed the code of duty and honor and country. One of Rocky's superiors said that the term "gung-ho" fit him perfectly.

Others remember his strong sense of moral purpose and unbending belief in his principles.

As his brother Steve once recalled, "If he thought he was right, he was a pain in the neck."…. "If he knew he was right, he was absolutely atrocious."

When Rocky completed his one-year tour of duty, he volunteered for another tour. And two weeks before his time was up, on October the 29th, 1963, he set out with several companies of South Vietnamese troops, planning to take out a Viet Cong command post. It was a daring mission, and an unusually dangerous one for someone so close to going home to volunteer for.

After some initial successes, a vastly larger Viet Kong force ambushed and overran Rocky's unit. Under siege and suffering from multiple bullet wounds, Rocky kept providing covering fire so that friendly forces could withdraw from the killing zone.

Eventually, he and two other Americans, Lieutenant Nick Rowe and Sergeant Dan Pitzer, were captured, bound and forced to walk barefoot to a prison camp deep within the jungle. For much of the next two years, their home would be bamboo cages, six feet long, two feet wide, and three feet high. They were given little to eat, and little protection against the elements. On nights when their netting was taken away, so many mosquitos would swarm their shackled feet it looked like they were wearing black socks.

The point was not merely to physically torture the prisoners, but also to persuade them to confess to phony crimes and use their confessions for propaganda. But Rocky's captors clearly had no idea who they were dealing with. Four times he tried to escape, the first time crawling on his stomach because his leg injuries prevented him from walking. He insisted on giving no more information than required by the Geneva Convention; and cited the treaty, chapter and verse, over and over again.

He was fluent in English, French and Vietnamese, and would tell his guards to go to hell in all three. Eventually the Viet Cong stopped using French and Vietnamese in their indoctrination sessions, because they didn't want the sentries or the villagers to listen to Rocky's effective rebuttals to their propaganda.

Rocky knew precisely what he was doing. By focusing his captors' anger on him, he made life a measure more tolerable for his fellow prisoners, who looked to him as a role model of principled resistance. Eventually the Viet Cong separated Rocky from the other prisoners. Yet even in separation, he continued to inspire them. The last time they heard his voice, he was singing "God Bless America" at the top of his lungs.

On September the 26th, 1965, Rocky's struggle ended his execution. In his too short life, he traveled to a distant land to bring the hope of freedom to the people he never met. In his defiance and later his death, he set an example of extraordinary dedication that changed the lives of his fellow soldiers who saw it firsthand. His story echoes across the years, reminding us of liberty's high price, and of the noble passion that caused one good man to pay that price in full.

Last Tuesday would have been Rocky's 65th birthday. So today, we award Rocky -- Rocky Versace -- the first Medal of Honor given to an Army POW for actions taken during captivity in Southeast Asia. We thank his family for so great a sacrifice. And we commit our country to always remember what Rocky gave -- to his fellow prisoners, to the people of Vietnam, and to the cause of freedom.


Steve Versace holds up the Medal of Honor that President George W. Bush presented to him on the behalf of his brother, Army Captain Humbert "Rocky" Versace, during a ceremony in the East Room, Monday, July 8. Executed in a POW camp in Vietnam, Captain Versace is the first serviceman awarded the medal for bravery as a prisoner of war.

The award citation credited Versace for scorning the enemy's exhaustive interrogation and indoctrination efforts despite isolation, privation, hardships and extremely reduced rations. "The enemy was unable to break his indomitable will, his faith in God and his trust in the United States of America," stated the citation.

During interrogation sessions, Versace stuck to giving just his name, rank, social security number and date of birth as required by the Geneva Convention, according to fellow prisoners. Often he would divert the enemy's inhumane treatment of fellow prisoners onto himself, they recalled.


From the Army reception at Fort Myers for the family, friends, and classmates of Rocky. The first photo is President Bush making remarks at the ceremony in the East Room of the White House.


Other Medal of Honor recipients who attended.


President Bush presenting the MOH to Rocky's eldest brother Stephen Versace.


Paul Wolfowicz Assistant Secretary of Defense speaking with Medal of Honor winner, Capt. Roger Donlon (retired).


Michael Haisley, Roger Donlon, and General Gurda (Army Special Forces)--Mr. Donlon is holding the Medal of Honor.

Rocky was active with orphanages in VietNam. He would hit up his fellow officers to help support their work.

He planned after his tour of duty (scheduled to end literally days after his capture) to enter the Catholic Maryknoll seminary to become a priest; he then planned to return to VietNam as a missionary.


Rocky's brothers (from left to right) Michael,Stephen, and Dick.


These are the two Vietnamese children who modeled in the making of the statue.

According to SFC Pitzer "Rocky walked his own path. All of us did but for that guy, duty, honor, country was a way of life. He was the finest example of an officer I have known. To him it was a matter of liberty or death, the big four and nothing more. There was no other way for him. Once, Rocky told our captors that as long as he was true to God and true to himself, what was waiting for him after this life was far better than anything that could happen now. So he told them that they might as well kill him then and there if the price of his life was getting more from him than name, rank, and serial number".

"Rocky was our friend. He was a soldier," retired Army Brig. Gen. Pete Dawkins, a West Point classmate of Versace's, said in the keynote address. "He was killed because honor, duty and country meant more to him than life."

......."The last time any of his fellow prisoners heard from him, CPT Versace was singing God Bless America at the top of his voice from his isolation box.".......



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To: MeeknMing
Ya know, Meek, I've always liked the way Ann Coulter thinks and the way she writes, but everytime I see her picture, I have this powerful urge to send her a can of beenie weenies.
151 posted on 07/28/2002 11:12:43 AM PDT by COB1
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To: LadyX
Good Afternoon, LadyX!

Now we have it hot and humid again in Maryland. Temps in the 90's.

152 posted on 07/28/2002 11:13:45 AM PDT by Pippin
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To: SevenofNine
Yo, Seven! Good news about Tony. Thanks for keeping us up to date with news around the world. Jen
153 posted on 07/28/2002 11:15:53 AM PDT by Jen
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To: COB1
HUH?
154 posted on 07/28/2002 11:16:27 AM PDT by Pippin
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To: bluesagewoman
I know what you are talking about. I can't stand them because they are so self-righteous, sanctimonious, pious, believing they are superior...PUKE! They make me sick. Not only are they all of the above, but they are idiots in need of a some intelligence. It's not smart to NOT defend yourself or your country. Ummm...hello??? Would they even have the right to be an idiot peacenik if it weren't for our constitution....and I guess that's not worth defending. Geeze Louise. What a bunch of lazy, good for nothing, cowardly, loser punks!
155 posted on 07/28/2002 11:16:28 AM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: All
Good afternoon everyone!! Hopefully everyone is doing well today!! I hope everyone has checked out ReconMarine's prayer request. He's going to boot camp tomorrow. He's not even my son and I'm very proud of him. His mother and father must be so proud. If not, who cares..I am!LOL!

You are some of the most animated and gifted people on the web. If I had time, I would learn to do more; but I never seem to have time!! UGH!! Anyways, I should do this more than downloading stuff!LOL!

156 posted on 07/28/2002 11:17:05 AM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: SpookBrat
Hi, Spookie! Don't let those idiots get to you.
157 posted on 07/28/2002 11:18:04 AM PDT by Pippin
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To: ClaraSuzanne; SpookBrat; SassyMom; Victoria Delsoul; All
Hi CS, and everybody else! Good to see y'all!
158 posted on 07/28/2002 11:18:29 AM PDT by Jen
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To: LadyX
Hey LadyX. I'm coming to the north Georgia mountains next Sunday to drop DD off at church camp. Are you close to there? Pretty please come see your son so we can meet some how. :) It's 91 in Jacksonville.


159 posted on 07/28/2002 11:18:40 AM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: MoJo2001
Good afternoon, MoJo!
160 posted on 07/28/2002 11:19:50 AM PDT by Pippin
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To: MoJo2001
Hi MoJo! I haven't met you yet, but I saw yesterday's thread (or Fridays?) when you came to the Canteen for the first time. It's great to meet you!


161 posted on 07/28/2002 11:21:55 AM PDT by Jen
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To: Bahbah
I wish I could go with y'all. I was telling her yesterday, we usually drive to St. Louis from Texas twice every summer and since we moved to Florida, that didn't happen this year. I coulda been a Columbia FReeper if we hadn't moved. Sniff...

Man, y'all are making me hungry to go out and find some peaceniks. I wanna FReep. Woohoo!


162 posted on 07/28/2002 11:22:05 AM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: AntiJen; Bahbah; Light Speed
Howdy' Y'All!
163 posted on 07/28/2002 11:23:02 AM PDT by Pippin
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To: ClaraSuzanne
They don't get to me because I have removed myself from them.....the ones I know. LOL They are like finger nails on a chalk board though. skreeeeeeeeeeetch....
164 posted on 07/28/2002 11:24:17 AM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: ClaraSuzanne
Thanks !
165 posted on 07/28/2002 11:27:05 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: SpookBrat
Fingernails on a chalk board? That is funny. I was always the one raking my fingernails down the chalk board! Screeetch!
166 posted on 07/28/2002 11:28:09 AM PDT by bluesagewoman
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To: SpookBrat; bluesagewoman
Yikes! I never liked nails screeching on blackboard!
167 posted on 07/28/2002 11:30:40 AM PDT by Pippin
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To: MeeknMing
You're welcome!
168 posted on 07/28/2002 11:31:27 AM PDT by Pippin
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To: SpookBrat; homeschool mama; Aquamarine
Thought of you yesterday reading in a magazine some suggestions for backyard science fun, written by a naturalist at a Nature Center in New York.

* Go on a bug hunt.
Put a white sheet under a bush, shake the shrub, and show your kids all the insects that fall out.

* Charm worms!
Put a pitchfork in the soil and hit it with a rock for a few minutes. Earthworms will rise to the surface.

* Be seed smart.
Put athletic socks over your child's shoes and let her walk through a field to see how seeds 'hitchhike' on the socks.

Homeschoolmama - don't know the ages of your children, but included you in case they are young.

Afraid I'm not on your flight path to North Georgia, Spookie - but check with Aquamarine. Believe she lives in the North Georgia mountains!

169 posted on 07/28/2002 11:31:46 AM PDT by LadyX
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To: ClaraSuzanne; All
Hi again and bye for awhile. My homework beckons...
170 posted on 07/28/2002 11:32:59 AM PDT by Jen
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To: Snow Bunny; All
The pictures of the statue memorial to Rocky Versace is from a Memorial Plaza constructed outside the Alexandria, Virginia recreation center. The dedication of this Memorial (which commemorates all of the American Service men killed in action in Viet Nam from Alexandria) took place on July 6. Many moving tributes were made during this ceremony, including speeches made by Virginia Lieutenant Governor Tim Kaine, Michael Haisley, the Memorial artist, Tobian Mendez, and Gen. Pete Dawkins (ret.), president of Rocky's class at West Point ('59). These speeches can be viewed with RealPlayer here. These are well worth the time. If you are every in Alexandria, stop at the plaza, reflect on its meaning, and see what a wonderful job Rocky's friends and family have accomplished.
171 posted on 07/28/2002 11:34:45 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: AntiJen
Homework first? Did the fingernails on the chalkboard remind you of that? Study hard, rest easy!
172 posted on 07/28/2002 11:35:07 AM PDT by bluesagewoman
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To: LadyX
Ooooooo...charming worms sounds fun. We've got a ton of earth worms around here. I'll have to try that. Someone gave me a good idea for going on a science scavenger hunt...give them a list of things to find. Thanks for remembering me.
173 posted on 07/28/2002 11:36:30 AM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: Faraday
Oops. Screwed up the link. This is the url: http://www.tvworldwide.com/event_020704.cfm
174 posted on 07/28/2002 11:36:50 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: SpookBrat
"Thanks for remembering me."

How could we forget you?..:))) LOL
We love your exuberance and the way you love your family, and life itself.

Keep on keeping on ~ ~ ~

175 posted on 07/28/2002 11:43:08 AM PDT by LadyX
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To: LadyX; Aeronaut; SassyMom; Snow Bunny; AntiJen; SAMWolf; HiJinx; lodwick; whoever; 4TheFlag; ...
<------click on the picture LOL
176 posted on 07/28/2002 11:45:31 AM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: MoJo2001
Hi Mo! I loved your post yesterday! You are going to fit right in, I can tell. Please stick around and be sure to read tomorrows thread...Mail Call Monday. You'll need a box of kleenex handy. We love our military so much. And I totally understand about feeling proud of someone you don't even know.

My daughter is 5'5" and 11 years old. I wonder if she'll be as tall as you. :)


177 posted on 07/28/2002 11:51:39 AM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: ClaraSuzanne; COB1; All
Slivers of the East and West coasts, enclaves in Florida, dependent government bureaucrats, and fearfully deceived minority members, are all they can count on.

Hmm? Can we see a picture of this please? Thanks!



178 posted on 07/28/2002 11:52:35 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Militiaman7
I love your beautiful picture! Thank you for putting that up for us to enjoy.
179 posted on 07/28/2002 11:52:52 AM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: SpookBrat; bluesagewoman; JustAmy
Not only are they all of the above, but they are idiots in need of a some intelligence. It's not smart to NOT defend yourself or your country. Ummm...hello???

What to do if you happen upon a peace rally:

1) Approach rich student talking about "peace" and saying there should be, "no retaliation."

2) Engage in brief conversation; ask if military force is appropriate.

3) When he says "No," ask, "Why not?"

4) Wait until he says something to the effect of, "Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which would be awful and we should not cause more violence."

5) When he's in mid sentence, punch him in the face as hard as you can.

6) When he gets back up to punch you, point out that it would be a mistake and contrary to his values to strike you, because that would, "be awful and he should not cause more violence."

7) Wait until he agrees that he has pledged not to commit additional violence.

8) Punch him in the face again, harder this time!

Repeat steps 5 through 8 until he/they understand that sometimes it is necessary to punch back.

180 posted on 07/28/2002 11:53:19 AM PDT by Mr_Magoo
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To: Snow Bunny; All; coteblanche; SAMWolf; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; souris; AntiJen; MistyCA; COB1; ...
The award citation credited Versace for scorning the enemy's exhaustive interrogation and indoctrination efforts despite isolation, privation, hardships and extremely reduced rations. "The enemy was unable to break his indomitable will, his faith in God and his trust in the United States of America," stated the citation.

During interrogation sessions, Versace stuck to giving just his name, rank, social security number and date of birth as required by the Geneva Convention, according to fellow prisoners. Often he would divert the enemy's inhumane treatment of fellow prisoners onto himself, they recalled.

Thanks so much for posting this tribute, Cote and Bunny. Rocky Versace was indeed a stirring example of courage with an indomitable human spirit.


181 posted on 07/28/2002 11:57:26 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: ClaraSuzanne
You're welcomed. Ann Coulter has a clear and concise way of expressing herself.
Brains and legs all in one package! LOL!
flame suit ON! hehehe
182 posted on 07/28/2002 11:58:57 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: COB1
This nation was built on God, guts and guns, and it will be protected and nourished the same way.
I have no doubt that there are many thousands in our military today who would sing,
"God Bless America", as they were being led to the executioner.

They are all heroes in my book. May God bless 'em all!!

AMEN!

Good afternoon, COBY!

183 posted on 07/28/2002 12:00:51 PM PDT by ST.LOUIE1
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To: Faraday
American military hero Major James N. "Nick" Rowe. He, more than anyone else, brought the story of Rocky Versace back from the jungles of Nam in his important book Five Years to Freedom, (1971, Little, Brown & Co.).

Dan Pitzer worked until the day he died (several years ago-cancer) to see this happen,and so did Medal of Honor winners CSM Franklin D.Miller(ret) and LTC Robert Howard (ret). Both Miller and Howard traveled all over to meet with politicians and get them to push this,spending their own money and time and ignoring the daily pain their old wounds brought them. Miller died a little over a year ago from liver cancer,but Howard is still alive.

BTW,despite all the claims made about Hackworth being "America's most decorated living veteran",the real owner of that title is Bob Howard. That is unless you count all the bullshit "1st place in the battalion latrine cleaning contest" Hackworth put himself in for and counts as "medals".

184 posted on 07/28/2002 12:02:22 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Mr_Magoo
You have no idea how much restraint we practice! We try to stay within FReeper ethics, but man, sometimes we want to do just what you suggested.
185 posted on 07/28/2002 12:05:02 PM PDT by bluesagewoman
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Good mother hug!


186 posted on 07/28/2002 12:05:16 PM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: MeeknMing
Hey, meekie, You enjoy the legs. and I'll enjoy the brains! LOL
187 posted on 07/28/2002 12:06:14 PM PDT by Pippin
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To: AntiJen
y'all make me look lazy!
188 posted on 07/28/2002 12:08:50 PM PDT by Pippin
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To: Victoria Delsoul
If I download that image, may I take it to a copy center and have them make a poster for me? That would look great on Friday nights.
Those idiots across the street from us cannot seem to get the message that the cost of protecting our FReedom is/was high.


189 posted on 07/28/2002 12:09:29 PM PDT by JustAmy
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Beautiful roses, Tonk. Thanks so much.



190 posted on 07/28/2002 12:11:53 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Snow Bunny
Good Morning Troops, families, veterans, and Canadian allies (and everybody else). Thank you for taking such good care of the USA.

Today in Anchorage, Alaska:
Sunrise 5:23am
Sunset 10:48pm
Hi 65F
Lo 49F
Mostly cloudy


191 posted on 07/28/2002 12:13:30 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska
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To: ClaraSuzanne
I'll ping you over to ATRW So you can find Post #14. Sorry I dont know
how to link. Give me a minute.

I see. I misunderstood. I thought you put a link on the USO thread, post #14.
Thanks.

192 posted on 07/28/2002 12:14:56 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: HighWheeler
LOL!!!

"No, just the guy who won. So I gave him his two dollars back."

Oh wow, that's clever! LOL.

193 posted on 07/28/2002 12:16:06 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: SpookBrat; Snow Bunny; ClaraSuzanne; AntiJen; MeeknMing; SassyMom; kneezles; lodwick; SAMWolf; ...
Saw your Spookie Photo Album:

Spookie in Disguise when she Freeps

Spookie at Halloween

194 posted on 07/28/2002 12:17:10 PM PDT by LadyX
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To: LindaSOG
Great post as usual, Linda. Thanks. C
195 posted on 07/28/2002 12:17:13 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: COB1; All
You seem the Waylon Jennings type. LOL How are you? I loved that picture of you last night. Can I keep it under my pillow?

<--------click on the picture

196 posted on 07/28/2002 12:17:36 PM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: sneakypete
SP, Thanks for those important acknowledgements.

The "Friends of Rocky Versace" (the organization which lobbied for the Memorial Plaza in Alexandria and for the MOH) includes Mike Faber, Philip Faber, Joe Flynn, Duane Frederic, John Gurr, Mike Kentes, and Kevin Rue. Also members were Tony Heisley (died May 27, 2000) and Gary Smith (killed at the Pentagon, September 11, 2001.)

197 posted on 07/28/2002 12:18:49 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: MeeknMing
Whew! My county went Red thank God. I would have thrown myself in front of a moving train if my county went Blue!
198 posted on 07/28/2002 12:19:40 PM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: Mr_Magoo
I love that! That's a classic! ROFLMAO!!


199 posted on 07/28/2002 12:21:02 PM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: COB1
Beenie weenie bump!
200 posted on 07/28/2002 12:22:12 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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