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Conservatives on the verge of controlling Illinois GOP
The Illinois Leader ^ | July 28, 2002 | BillyBoy

Posted on 07/28/2002 11:25:53 AM PDT by BillyBoy

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To: reformed_democrat; BillyBoy; cfrels; RedWing9; TheRightGuy
All the State Senators near here love Fitz; maybe because their most loyal volunteers and swing voters love Fitz. That is not to say that anyone agrees with Fitz on every issue. It is not to say that Fitz has that Clintonesque ability to feel your pain.

It should also be noted that I said Fitz was the most popular Republican. That might be a reflection on other statewide Republicans as much as on Fitz.

I just returned from the NW Suburban Republican picnic. Jim Ryan's staff got quite a few people to put on Jim Ryan shirts. But a lot of people also said "No thanks" to his button or shirt. (Nobody that I know of refused one for Topinka, Birkett or Cohn.)

Jim Ryan's staff told people that Jim Ryan would arrive and speak at 3 pm. They waited and waited. He did not show up until the day's final event, the raffle, and after most people had left. Jim Ryan gave a stock speach. There was polite applause from some. Many people who were convinced to wear a Jim Ryan shirt (and whose hands were free and not holding a drink or corn) did not applaud, not even politely.

Jim Ryan (or his wife, or somebody) should have been there all afternoon shaking hands and trying to line up support. He has no where to go but up. So he need not be too cautious. If he doesn't try to get this Republican vote, where will he? If he doesn't try to help himself, why should us volunteers?

That the LP petition challenge was dropped immediately after McDougal became Chair is a good sign that some intelligence does exist. The glass is half full and half empty. 2003, 2004 actually look good. But a lot smarter race needs to be run for 2002.

PS, I'm listening to Tom Roeser while I type this. Reports from the picnic are interesting.

41 posted on 08/04/2002 6:57:37 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: reformed_democrat
Never met the politician, but after living in Maine for the past ten years and meeting real Rino's, Petey as you call him reminds me of the snowe's, collins', cohen's, et al.

Don't start me on Ryan II, another weak kneed RINO.

Of Course, the worse thing that could happen to Hizzoner is a Democrt in the state house.

He would no longer be the Number 1 demo in the state.

42 posted on 08/04/2002 7:20:31 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: spintreebob; BillyBoy; cfrels; RedWing9
Jim Ryan (or his wife, or somebody) should have been there all afternoon shaking hands and trying to line up support. He has no where to go but up. So he need not be too cautious. If he doesn't try to get this Republican vote, where will he? If he doesn't try to help himself, why should us volunteers?

His speech was indeed lackluster. He shows no fire in the belly and seems to be totally clueless as to what it will take to win this election. I'm about ready to just hit fast the forward button, and skip to December in order to avoid the carnage of the next few months.

43 posted on 08/05/2002 5:35:46 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: dts32041
>> but after living in Maine for the past ten years and meeting real Rino's, Petey as you call him reminds me of the snowe's, collins', cohen's, et al. <<

Hmmm... I see you are unable to understand voting records too. What part of 90% conservative rating don't you get?

Let me spell it out for you in simple language.

Your RINOs in Maine are 100% pro-abortion. Check the primary results in Illinois and let me know how our pro-abort Republicans did in primaries where they had real competition. Just because YOUR state's "Republican voters" want liberals, it doesn't mean Illinois Republicans think that way.

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators supported the federal airline bailout doesn't mean Fitzgerald did.

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators supported Clinton during Monicagate, it doesn't mean Fitzgerald did.

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators supported the marrriage and death taxes, it doesn't mean Fitzgerald did.

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators opposed across-the-board tax cuts, it doesn't mean Fitzgerald did.

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators supported massive new funding for the NEA, it doesn't mean Fitzgerald did.

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators oppposed Missile Defense System Testing, it doesn't mean Fitzgerald did

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators supported federal "Hate Crimes" laws, it doesn't mean Fitzgerald did.

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators supported Carol Moseley-Braun for "ambassador" to New Zealand, it doesn't mean Fitzgerald did.

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators want to force the boy scouts to hire openly homosexual scoutmasters, it doesn't mean Fitzgerald did.

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators supported the Jeffords Dairy Cartel, it doesn't mean Fitzgerald did.

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators opposed the Hatch amendment that forced union goons to provide detailed disclosure of funds spent on political activities, it doesn't mean Fitzgerald did.

Just because YOUR "Republican" Senators want to do away with the electoral college,, it doesn't mean Fitzgerald did.

And so on with hundreds of more votes.

I, of course, understand your frustration with your "Republican" Senators. I'd be upset with my Senator, too, if he voted with the Democrats half the time. Of course he doesn't. Maybe you want to drag Illinois down to your level and PRETEND he does because it makes things sound better. Unfortuntely for you, those gosh darn facts shows that Fitzgerald wouldn't be caught dead voting for half the stuff your girls vote for.

Oddly enough, there WAS an Olympia Snowe-clone in Illinois primary. Her name was Loleta Dickerson and she ran in the Republican primary a couple years back. She was handily defeated by NONE OTHER than U.S. Senator Peter Fitzgerald! Maybe you have their names confused. You see, all the Illinois Republicans who support the types of things that Snowe supporters were OUTRAGED when Fitzgerald won. They insisted the only Republicans who "could win" were liberals. Remember "No one as ANTI-CHOICE and INTOLERANT as Fitzgerald will win in Illinois?" I sure do.

Well, sorry about Loleta. I figure the Republicans in Maine will take her (and please, feel free to have her since you can't tell the difference between her and Fitz! ROTFL!) ...but here in Illinois, we only let real Republicans get the nomination for the U.S. Senate.

44 posted on 08/05/2002 7:15:44 AM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: reformed_democrat
Aren't all politicians self-absorbed jerks with delusions of grandeur? While your characterization maybe correct he is not a RINO.

I never met the man.
45 posted on 08/05/2002 1:07:56 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: BillyBoy
Billy,
Check your meds. They may be getting the beter of you.
46 posted on 08/05/2002 7:16:55 PM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: dts32041
Of Course, the worse thing that could happen to Hizzoner is a Democrt in the state house.
He would no longer be the Number 1 demo in the state.

An astute observation! I predict that a "situation" will occur that will cause Daley to drop his support for HotRod.

47 posted on 08/05/2002 7:23:19 PM PDT by TheRightGuy
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