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Traficant's legal foes seek long jail term (Beacause of ATTITUDE More Than "Crimes")
Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | July 29, 2002 | John Caniglia

Posted on 07/29/2002 7:23:19 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

In his last gasp for freedom, James Traficant looked at jurors in his corruption case and promised that he could take what they doled out.

"If you find me guilty, you come out and just say it," Traficant roared. "I'll accept it like a man."

Federal prosecutors say Traficant has accepted nothing about the jury's verdict in April and has failed to show any remorse. Instead, they say in pleadings filed Friday, he has accused investigators, attorneys and a judge of corruptly conspiring to bring him down.

Because of those actions, and for tarnishing the image of Congress, Traficant now deserves the harshest sentence possible, they say.

Tomorrow, U.S. District Judge Lesley Wells will decide Traficant's prison term, one that attorneys have argued over for weeks. The former 18-year member of Congress faces 87 months in prison after being convicted of 10 felony charges, according to federal guidelines.

But Wells has the discretion to add to or subtract from that.

The judge is expected to listen to some character witnesses who will describe Traficant's 22 years of public service to the Mahoning Valley, including four years as sheriff before he was elected to the U.S. House. Sentencing hearings typically last less than an hour, but the testimony and legal arguments slated for this one could stretch it out over a full day or more, some court officials predict.

Prosecutors say Traficant deserves a much greater sentence than the 87 months because his crimes were so egregious: He shook down contractors who did hundreds of thousands of dollars of free work at his farm and boat in exchange for political favors. They also say his outlandish behavior after the verdict warrants a steep sentence.

Traficant's attorney says his client deserves a much lighter term in prison because of his "lifelong dedication and exceptional public service."

Traficant has denied wrongdoing. With bluster and profanity, he tried - and failed - to bully his House colleagues out of voting last week to toss him from office.

Traficant told them that he was railroaded during his federal jury trial in Cleveland. Legal experts say Traficant's ouster from the House, as well as two jurors expressing second thoughts about his conviction, are not likely to play into Wells' sentencing.

At the end of the 10-week trial, on April 11, a jury convicted him of 10 corruption charges, including tampering with witnesses, bribery and racketeering. Traficant said many witnesses whom prosecutors called at his trial were felons who testified against him to get light sentences.

Traficant wants Wells to allow him to remain free on bond until an appeals court decides his case. But prosecutors in Cleveland say Traficant must first show that he has a chance of winning an appeal, and they believe he has none. They want Traficant to go immediately to prison.

Federal authorities said the impact of his misdeeds go far beyond his district.

"The fact that a member of Congress, one of the highest positions in our government, has been convicted of these crimes of dishonesty will cause some loss of public confidence in these institutions at the very time citizens must depend on them to ensure our domestic security," prosecutors wrote in court documents.

They stopped short of saying how much more time in prison Traficant should spend, but they asked for a substantial increase to "fully reflect the nature of the crime and extent of its harm on the community."

Prosecutors also contend that Traficant is a risk to run. During his trial, he told Wells: "I do caution the court, that if you poison this jury one more time, you'll have to send a marshal for me because I am not coming back to your courtroom. You can put that on the record."

Traficant represented himself at trial, even though he is not an attorney. For his sentencing, he has an attorney, Richard Hackerd, who said the former congressman is no threat to vanish.

Hackerd also said Traficant deserves the minimum sentence because of his service to the Youngstown area. He cited Traficant's four-year term as sheriff, when Traficant refused to foreclose on the homes of laid-off steelworkers. Traficant was found in contempt of court, and he was sent to jail for failing to remove the families from their homes.

"This demonstrates his willingness to sacrifice his personal liberty for the community," Hackerd said in documents. He plans to call witnesses tomorrow and present affidavits from constituents whom the former congressman helped.

"His office was aggressive in constituent services, and Mr. Traficant pursued legislation action diligently," Hackerd wrote.

Prosecutors say Traficant did not serve his community, but stole from it. They said he took more than $200,000 in kickbacks from his employees, forced his staff to clean stalls at his horse farm and encouraged witnesses to lie for him. And if a constituent needed help, they said, Traficant wanted to know what the citizen could do for him first.

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

jcaniglia@plaind.com, 216-999-4128


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To: Hillary's Folly
I think JT has a lot of valid points, especially about China. I hope we are not looking back at the sayings of JT in a few years time and saying "why did we not listen"

People at the top have agenda's, Kennedy and the big money clans that are going to get rich from the China entry into the WTO. Nobody will stop them. And at the same time US will be destroyed

Can anyone remember the person that JT said was being put forward by EK, to replace JT. Lets observe.

We need to start a fund for JT. He may seem a little scatty, but what you see is what you get, can we really say that about anyopne else in government, past or present. ?

41 posted on 07/29/2002 10:26:06 AM PDT by John_11_25
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To: PJ-Comix
To: exodus
Court cases are overturned all the time because of minor technicalities. In this case, there were flagrant abuses of justice in order to obtain conviction. This is a case screaming out to be OVERTURNED. I just hope that Traficant uses a good attorney (i.e. not himself) in the appeals process.

p.s. And why not ONE IOTA of physical evidence in this case? It seems to have consisted entirely of dubious testimony by witnesses who were trying to get their own sentences lightened.
# 23 by PJ-Comix

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There is no way that Traficant would be able to afford a lawyer as good as Traficant is himself. I watched the House hearings, and Traficant did a good job. Richard Detore spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers. There is no evidence that Detore did wrong, and lots of evidence that Detore actually tried to fight corruption. Detore is still persecuted, and will probably be imprisoned to “prove” that his charges of government corruption are false. Professional lawyers didn’t help Detore.

In the court case, the corrupt judge wouldn’t allow the majority of Traficant’s evidence, but did allow the government’s hearsay. The judge and prosecutor conspired to bring in a guilty verdict. The judge even told Traficant that he could bring up evidence not allowed in her court during his appeal, a plain message that Traficant would be guilty no matter what he did in her court.

In the House Ethics Committee, I watched as the Chairman and members ridiculed Traficant’s testimony.

I watched as Traficant was badgered by Chairman Hefley while presenting audio tapes that the Committee had asked for.

Traficant was asked to describe the relevancy of each tape, and did so. The Chairman then said, “explain the relevancy of the tapes.” Traficant did so, again. And the Chairman asked, “please explain the relevancy of these tapes.” Traficant went over it again. Remember, Traficant had a limited amount of time to present his case. Without opposition, and thus with the approval of the members of the Committee, the Chairman forced Traficant to spend about 15 minutes explaining why he was presenting tapes that the Committee had asked him to present.

When Traficant pointed out that he had been unable to find a certain tape, the council for the Committee said, “We have that tape.” Traficant said, “You do? I couldn’t find it, so you didn’t get it from me. Where did you get it?

Traficant was told, “We got nine tapes from the Justice Department, and that tape was among them.” Traficant said, “If you already had the tapes, why did you tell me to give you the tapes?

There was no answer from the Committee.

Traficant then asked, “Did you ask the Justice Department for those tapes, or did the Justice Department take it upon themselves to send the tapes to you?

Chairman Hefley said, “What difference does it make how we got the tapes?”

Traficant said, “It is relevant because the Justice Department is not supposed to be a party to this Congressional hearing. If they sent information without your request, that would be evidence that the Justice Department is out to get Jim Traficant.”

Traficant demanded, “I want to see all documents passed between this Committee and the Justice Department.”

Chairman Hefley said, “The documents passed between this Committee and the Justice Department are none of your business.

42 posted on 07/29/2002 10:26:26 AM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus
bttt
43 posted on 07/29/2002 10:28:21 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: PJ-Comix; Travis McGee
I'm not convinced either of you paid attention to the trial. Let's look at the facts, as opposed to the evidence: Several people, many of them NOT criminals, testified that they engaged in various kickback schemes with Traficant. One, an attorney, stated that he watched Traficant actually burn envelopes in his presence.

The body wire issue was raised at trial, and the FBI has internal documentation that they feared wiring someone would jeopardize the investigation, due to Traficant being somewhat "touchy feely".

This is the same man who laughably claimed he accepted nearly $200k in mob money in a one-man sting operation. When was the last time an Ohio sheriff (JT's job at the time) played Eliot Ness? Needless to say, his constituents (many would say co-conspirators) acquitted him. But...

Caught in that whopper without the cash, Traficant was found guilty of tax evasion.

Listen, I admired a lot of the things the guy said over the years, and particularly enjoyed his bombast when it was aimed at liberals. HOWEVER, the guy is a crook. There is no conspiracy to bring him down, one isn't needed.

44 posted on 07/29/2002 10:29:37 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: exodus
Where online can we find the transcript of the Ethics Committee hearings on Traficant? If you can find it, please post the link here. Thanx.
45 posted on 07/29/2002 10:33:04 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Mr. Bird
Where is the single shred of evidence not based on the testimony of felons and lawyers that the fedgov have by the testicles?
46 posted on 07/29/2002 10:34:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: exodus
Chairman Hefley said, “The documents passed between this Committee and the Justice Department are none of your business.

If it was not so serious, this sounds like a movie. The media needs to get its a$$ off the fence and really investigate this one. I think if they look really hard, we are going to get something on the scale of Watergate.

Maybe not the President, but senior, long serving congressman will bite the dust, JT just has to stay alive.

JT for President.

47 posted on 07/29/2002 10:35:48 AM PDT by John_11_25
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To: John_11_25
If it was not so serious, this sounds like a movie. The media needs to get its a$$ off the fence and really investigate this one.

I'm surprised that NOT ONE reporter even investigated Traficant's allegation that Judge Wells' hubby had business dealings with the prosecution team.

48 posted on 07/29/2002 10:41:32 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Mr. Bird
If the government can have it’s innocence accepted despite the evidence against it, allow Jim Traficant to have his innocence accepted because there was no evidence against him.
- exodus
Oh please, who do you think you are kidding? Traficant was and is corrupt, and there's plenty of evidence (including testimony from non-felons) to back it up. It's a miracle he escaped jail for as long as he did.

By bringing up Waco, you play right into his hands. When he is ranting about being railroaded, he's hoping to hitch a ride on the sympathies of those of us who are wary of the Feds. I'm not buying it. It is not inconsistent to believe that Traficant is guilty along with Reno's Justice Department.
# 24 by Mr. Bird

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You didn’t watch the House Ethics Committee in action if you still believe that Traficant is guilty. I listened to Traficant’s evidence.

Traficant is innocent.

I brought up Waco, yes. Our government committed premeditated murder there, murder planned and orchestrated at the highest levels of our government.

I could bring up Ruby Ridge, too. That was also a case of premeditated murder.

You believe that your government is capable of murder, Mr. Bird.

Why do you consider your government too good to frame a man that fought against governmental abuses?

49 posted on 07/29/2002 10:50:36 AM PDT by exodus
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To: PJ-Comix
As for "tarnishing the image of Congress," don't make me laugh.

The average congressman or woman, even the Democrats, looks like Mother Teresa when compared to Trafficant. The guy is a criminal and nothing in the article undermines that.

Why do you fawn over Mr Roadkill? Because he got a Nazi released from Israeli jail, because he bad mouthes the IRS and "the government." Sure he's made some good votes over the years but got paid real well off the books for his efforts. Maybe that kind of behavior is okay in Ohio or wherever you live, but not in most parts of this country.

If he really was innocent, a real lawyer like like Joe Di Genova could have gotten him off easily. He would have made mince meat of the prosecutions case. So you either have Trafficant as fool for being his own attorney or he's really guilty and he just assumes that you and enough other "aginers" are foolish enough to believe him. So who is the fool, you are your hero?

50 posted on 07/29/2002 10:56:30 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Travis McGee
There is a senator in good standing who ran a homo bordello out of his house.

Wrong. It was a congressman's lover who ran the bordello, supposedly unbeknowst to the congressman.

51 posted on 07/29/2002 10:59:51 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: PJ-Comix
   Mr. HULSHOF. My colleagues, let me first thank you all for your attention and presence here. The gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. Obey) pointed out to me during the vote that back in 1980, as this matter was being discussed, only a handful of Members were here for that debate over the expulsion of Mr. Myers. And so your continued presence here is a testament to this institution.

   The gentleman from Ohio has referenced the lack of evidence and the quality of evidence. Is there anybody in this Chamber who believes that the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Traficant ) could be captured incriminating himself on tape? Should we, in this case or any other case, reward a wrongdoer because he has the wherewithal to avoid being captured in the act? Shall a clever criminal who has enriched himself at taxpayer expense be further enriched because he almost avoided detection?

   I paraphrased comments made by a member of the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct back in 1980 in that matter. The gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Traficant ) has violated the House rules not only as an individual who happened to be a public servant, but as a public servant who traded upon that very elected office.

   There is no one who disputes that the gentleman has fought aggressively for his constituents in the 17th Congressional District of Ohio. I daresay that 435 Members who come here every week do the same for constituents back home across this land, and yet we come here in the public good, not to enrich ourselves for private profit.

   To my colleagues who were sworn in in this Chamber on January 7, 1997, in the 105th Congress, what an interesting tenure we have had. Our first vote for Speaker of the House, who had an ethics cloud hanging over his head; our last vote as freshmen members on the impeachment matter of a sitting president; and here we are again tonight with the lens of history trained upon us.

   There are some who have been fretting about this vote and that we are debating it in prime time, of all things. Well, my colleagues, I believe that tonight is going to be one of this institution's finest hours.

   To the gentleman from California (Mr. Issa), I absolutely agree with his statements on the previous motion. It should take extraordinary wrongdoing to override the wishes of a voter in a Congressional district. I believe that. And I believe this is one such case.

   Sometimes when we walk in darkness, we are overcome with the brilliant light of truth. A little over 300 days ago, we assembled as a body on the darkest day of our Nation's history, and we sent a glimmer of light to the people we represent that you can extinguish thousands of American lives, but you will not extinguish the American spirit. And yet when you destroy that fragile bond of trust between the elected and the electorate, expulsion is the only appropriate remedy, regrettably, and I ask for that vote.

52 posted on 07/29/2002 11:01:56 AM PDT by toenail
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To: exodus
By your logic, the government-ordered murder of the Branch Davidians was okay, because the government was declared (by the government) to be innocent of wrongdoing.

Yes, anyone with half a brain knows the government didnt order any such thing. The Branch Davidians lit the fire so they go out in their blaze of glory, kind of like Islamic terrorists would in a similar situation.

53 posted on 07/29/2002 11:04:29 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: PJ-Comix
I'm surprised that NOT ONE reporter even investigated Traficant's allegation that Judge Wells' hubby had business dealings with the prosecution team

Perhaps a thousand of them already have and found out that Trafficant was lying.

54 posted on 07/29/2002 11:07:49 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: PJ-Comix
I'm surprised that NOT ONE reporter even investigated Traficant's allegation that Judge Wells' hubby had business dealings with the prosecution team. Its seems that everyone in government and Media knows who is out to get this one and its not worth their, career business, or lives.

Just think the President, has hard times getting motions passed, without any questions or delays, but this was almost nano seconds in comparison. So Who is the big fish or fisheds behind this one.

To all mass Media "Investigate immediately". When the people do not need to know, you investiage private lives and spread the news around the world, but when it comes to serious issues of corruption in government or big business, you all duck for cover.

55 posted on 07/29/2002 11:10:11 AM PDT by John_11_25
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To: exodus
Why do you consider your government too good to frame a man that fought against governmental abuses?

I believe that my government is capable of framing a man that fought against governmental abuses. With Mr. Traficant, no framing was necessary.

56 posted on 07/29/2002 11:19:17 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: PJ-Comix; OldFriend; aristeides; meenie; Travis McGee; backhoe; madfly; SierraWasp; marsh2; ...
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57 posted on 07/29/2002 11:26:49 AM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: Travis McGee
I attempted a brief outline of the facts that I know, and those facts lead me to believe the man is a crook. You are looking for "shreds of evidence". Well, a man with Traficant's penchant for attracting investigations is unlikely to request cashier's checks. It's pretty clear based on the comments here that there are those of us who believe Traficant is guilty, and those who do not. Oh well.....
58 posted on 07/29/2002 11:29:37 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Dave S
Why do you fawn over Mr Roadkill? Because he got a Nazi released from Israeli jail,

Demjanjuk wasn't a Nazi. He was caught up in the rolling tide of the war. Many Ukranians were forced to work for the Germans as slave loborers, although there were some who enthusiatically cooperated with them out of sympathy for Nazism. I don't think Demjanjuk was one of the latter. Most likely he worked for the Germans as many folks did out of having to earn a living during those times. In any case, he was a relatively low level worker. I have read that he served as a camp guard but that could also have meant that he was just a worker whose occasional duties included that. In any event, he definitely was NOT Ivan the Terrible as was alleged. The Israeli Supreme court, to their credit, recognized the weight of the evidence and released Demjanjuk.

59 posted on 07/29/2002 1:25:20 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: toenail
The gentleman from Ohio has referenced the lack of evidence and the quality of evidence. Is there anybody in this Chamber who believes that the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Traficant ) could be captured incriminating himself on tape? Should we, in this case or any other case, reward a wrongdoer because he has the wherewithal to avoid being captured in the act? Shall a clever criminal who has enriched himself at taxpayer expense be further enriched because he almost avoided detection?

This dopey statement will HAUNT Hulshof until the end of his political career (hopefully soon). So he believes that the of lack of evidence means that the accused was just too clever to get caught? Has it even crossed DUMBK-HOFF's mind that maybe lack of evidence means the accused is innocent? I shall be watching Mr. Hulshof? I shall be reporting on him. And, Mr. Hulshof, don't even think of trying to become a Senator or Governor or anything else because your own IDIOTIC words will come back to haunt you again and again and again.

60 posted on 07/29/2002 1:33:50 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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