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To: axxmann
The 9mm will punch through a wall or the side of a house cleaner thaqn the 45 acp so the chance of shooting your neighbor is higher with the 9mm.

A nine mm is just to small IMHO for personal protection.

The other thing with a Semi auto is that you must put a lot of time in on the jam clearing drills etc. If you are going to depend on one of them for protection. I elected to not spend countless hours on those drills and just use a revolver. Simple, no jams. I don't have the amount of follow up shots but I am not in law enforcement and will just hope that 6 will do the job.
12 posted on 07/29/2002 4:20:58 PM PDT by dannyc
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To: dannyc
A nine mm is just to small IMHO for personal protection.

I've heard that before, but my argument is that I'd rather have three small holes in a dead attacker than one big hole in the wall next to a live attacker. For your average "home defender", a .45 is too much to handle effectively. For one thing, the recoil on a .45 is just too exaggerated to recover from quickly. That gives you one BIG boom followed by a lingering lost second or so while the barrel is brought back under control to place the next shot (the one you won't get off because that lost second was just enough for the assailant to close the distance between himself and the now defensless, previously overly-well armed defender). I've got no argument with a .45 as a defense pistol, it will certainly get the job done in experianced hands. But it will only be effective if the owner spends the time to "get over" the shock of actually firing the thing and spends the time learning to manage that recoil, while the "barrel bounce" on a 9mm is much more forgiving and lends itself to a second or third pull on-target instead of the powerful first pull that careens slightly off-target because the shooter flinched while anticipating that big BOOM.

You're right about the over-penetration with the 9 though. Even a solid center-mass impact has a chance of paying your neighbor a visit after it exits through the "back door" of the uninvited guest. Sobering thought. That's why I tell my neighbors to sleep on the floor and stay away from their walls. Just because I care... :)

79 posted on 07/29/2002 10:09:52 PM PDT by IsItTimeYet
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To: dannyc
Your premise is based on a minimum of training hours. If you are not prepared to train you will not rise to the situation but rather default to the lowest level of your training.
Each bullet has a nasty greedy attorney attached to it, so be careful of the presentation or use of any weapon regardless of your ultimate selection.
146 posted on 05/30/2007 3:13:56 PM PDT by Gideon Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! Palestinians are,...well,... Palestinian.)
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