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The OKC-911 connection, again: Joseph Farah details evidence linking terror incidents, perps
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 07/30/2002 12:04:46 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

For more than 10 months, I have been wondering out loud if the FBI and other federal authorities would take a new look at the broader conspiracy of the Oklahoma City federal building bombing following the events of Sept. 11.

For several years before Sept. 11, 2001, I have been pointing out the many holes in the government's cover story about the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Building, hoping against hope that those problems might be corrected so that we, as a nation, might not be caught off-guard by Islamic terrorism.

Now it appears the government is ignoring or hiding an Oklahoma City connection between high-profile terrorist suspect Zacarias Moussaoui and Sept. 11 skyjacker Mohamed Atta precisely because it might raise questions about the government's rush to close the books on the 1995 bombing, which was pinned exclusively on Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.

That is the only conclusion I can draw from the L.A. Weekly report tying Moussaoui, the so-called "20th hijacker," and Atta, the alleged field commander of the Sept. 11 plot.

The story reveals the co-owner of a motel outside Oklahoma City reported to the FBI that Atta, Moussaoui and another Arab who appeared to be Marwan al-Shehhi, another Sept. 11 skyjacker, tried to rent a room around Aug. 1 – six weeks before the biggest terror attack in the history of the world. Asked why they wanted to rent a room on a weekly rate, Atta allegedly told the motel owner the three were taking flight lessons in nearby Norman.

Yet, nowhere in the government's circumstantial case against Moussaoui is such a meeting mentioned.

But it gets worse. Just prior to the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, a man named Mujahid Abdulquaadir Menepta stayed at the motel and spoke for hours with a clerk who was able to pick his likeness out of a photo lineup prepared by a law-enforcement officer. Who is Menepta? He is a friend of Moussaoui's who was arrested 30 years ago in Colorado for aggravated robbery and served three years in prison.

After Sept. 11, Menepta publicly defended Moussaoui, calling him a "scapegoat." Menepta was arrested as a material witness in the case and charged with a gun violation. He pleaded guilty and, in April, was sentenced to 15 months in federal prison. During the preliminary hearing on the charge, an agent of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms testified that a confidential source placed Menepta at a meeting of a radical Islamic group in a St. Louis mosque where he allegedly threatened to shoot any police officer who entered.

Why wouldn't federal prosecutors want to use this damning evidence in the capital case against Moussaoui?

"One reason for the FBI's apparent lack of interest might be this motel's alleged connection to Timothy McVeigh and a group of Iraqis who worked in Oklahoma City," says the L.A. Weekly report. "According to the motel owner and other witnesses and investigators interviewed by the Weekly, McVeigh and several of these Iraqis were motel guests in the months preceding the 1995 bombing. Witnesses also claimed they saw several of the Iraqis moving barrels of material around on the bed of a truck. The motel owner said the material smelled of diesel fuel and he had to clean up a spill. Diesel fuel was a key component of the truck bomb that blew up the federal building."

By the way, there's plenty of forensic evidence tying Moussaoui to Oklahoma City as well. According to his indictment, Moussaoui made e-mail contact with the Airman Flight School in Norman Sept. 29, 2000. On Feb. 23, 2001, he flew from London to Chicago to Oklahoma City. On Feb. 26, he opened a bank account in Norman, depositing $32,000. From Feb. 26 to May 29, he attended flight school there. Between July 29 and Aug. 4, Moussaoui made calls from public pay phones in Norman to Germany. On Aug. 1 and Aug. 3, Ramzi Bin al-Shibh, an alleged al-Qaida member tied to skyjackers, wired Moussaoui about $14,000 from two train stops in Germany. A week later, an accomplice drove Moussaoui to Minnesota for enrollment in another flight school. He was arrested a week later on an immigration violation. He had attracted attention because of his interest in flying planes but not necessarily taking off or landing.

While the Moussaoui indictment never mentions the motel sighting with Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi, it does state that the pair of skyjackers visited Airman Flight School in Norman in July 2000. On April 2, 2001, Nawaf al-Hazmi, who helped hijack American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon, was stopped for speeding in Oklahoma and given two tickets. The Central Intelligence Agency had reportedly been tracking al-Hamzi as a suspected terrorist but never bothered to tell immigration authorities or the FBI during the 21 months he spent in the U.S.

Could the feds be so monumentally stupid and incompetent as to miss the significance of all this evidence? Or, alternatively, and worse yet, could the feds once again intentionally be burying evidence to protect themselves against charges of earlier bungles?

If there are any other possibilities, I haven't figured out what they might be.




TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alshehhi; atta; fredthompson; menepta; moussaoui; okcbombing
Tuesday, July 30, 2002

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1 posted on 07/30/2002 12:04:46 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: OKCSubmariner
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2 posted on 07/30/2002 12:09:31 AM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: glorygirl; DoughtyOne; LarryLied; Travis McGee; hchutch; dawn53; OKCSubmariner; Wallaby; ...
Heads up
3 posted on 07/30/2002 12:12:37 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: *OKCbombing; Alamo-Girl; Gary Aldrich; amom; archy; aristeides; anymouse; AtticusX; backhoe; ...
ping
4 posted on 07/30/2002 12:37:25 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: JohnHuang2
Let's see, Atta goes to Prague just for the beer, and Moussaoui goes to OKC for...?
5 posted on 07/30/2002 12:52:12 AM PDT by eno_
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To: eno_
Yeah and it would be embarrassing for the Feebs to admit there really was an Islamokamikazi connection to OKC after all.
6 posted on 07/30/2002 12:54:12 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: JohnHuang2
Thank you John. I do have to admit that these threads make my blood boil though. Have a good morning.
7 posted on 07/30/2002 12:56:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: glorygirl; All
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8 posted on 07/30/2002 1:21:12 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: JohnHuang2
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/722374/posts?q=1&&page=1

The Terrorist Motel: The I-40 Connection between Moussaoui and Atta

For more information on the Moussaoui's Oklahoma African-American roommate,Majahid Abdulquaadir Menepta , please see replies 35,36,37,40, and 45 in the link above.

9 posted on 07/30/2002 5:19:14 AM PDT by honway
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To: honway; glorygirl
turn on Fox. They're about to cover this after the commercial.
10 posted on 07/30/2002 5:31:39 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
turn on Fox.

on it! glad they're following this one.

11 posted on 07/30/2002 5:34:55 AM PDT by thinden
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To: thinden
Well, I wish they'd hurry up. I have things to do!

They flashed Moussaoui's pic up with the words "Terrorist Motel" underneath. Now they're covering OTHER things. Grrr...
12 posted on 07/30/2002 5:44:54 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
Did it run yet?
13 posted on 07/30/2002 5:50:51 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: Nita Nupress
Thanks for the heads up. As long as there is a Fox News Channel there is still hope for the truth.
14 posted on 07/30/2002 5:59:14 AM PDT by honway
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To: All
Jim Crogan was on. Great job! We need to do our part now and put pressure on the other media to report this.

15 posted on 07/30/2002 5:59:15 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
Saw it..glad they waited. Thanks for the heads up, Nita.
Poor Jim looked pretty nervous.
16 posted on 07/30/2002 5:59:31 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
Did you catch it?
17 posted on 07/30/2002 5:59:41 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: glorygirl
Yeah, you could tell he was nervous. Now Fox should follow up with Jayna Davis for tommorrow morning.
18 posted on 07/30/2002 6:01:20 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: JohnHuang2
Could the feds be so monumentally stupid and incompetent as to miss the significance of all this evidence? Or, alternatively, and worse yet, could the feds once again intentionally be burying evidence to protect themselves against charges of earlier bungles?

The obvious "yes" to the above rhetorical questions will not be forthcoming until the general public demands it. The cynic in me tells me the alphabet agencies rely on public disinterest.
19 posted on 07/30/2002 6:02:55 AM PDT by pyx
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To: JohnHuang2
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/45/9-11-crogan.php

Employees and guests at a motel near downtown Oklahoma City reported seeing McVeigh with several Middle Eastern men in the months before the bombing. One of those men was identified from KFOR's surveillance photos of Samara Properties as possibly being Al-Hussaini. The others were identified as fellow employees of Al-Hussaini.

McVeigh reportedly stayed at the motel, under the name of Bob Kling, an alias he had used before, according to the FBI. The witnesses said they had often seen several of the men moving large barrels around in the back of an old white truck that frequently broke down on the lot. The barrels smelled of diesel, they said, an ingredient in the bomb that destroyed the federal building. According to an FBI report, an Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agent confiscated the motel's registration records and logs.

Bob Kling rented the Ryder truck

20 posted on 07/30/2002 6:22:18 AM PDT by honway
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To: Nita Nupress
It would be nice if Fox followed up on this, rather than just reporting it once and moving on to something else..."You did a great job, Jim, helping out the FBI."

Yeah, right.

21 posted on 07/30/2002 6:38:48 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: Nita Nupress
It would be nice if Fox followed up on this, rather than just reporting it once and moving on to something else..."You did a great job, Jim, helping out the FBI."

Yeah, right.

22 posted on 07/30/2002 6:39:21 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: pyx
Another version of that question might be:

Does the fact that the FBI still has the hotel register from the period prior to the OKC bombing indicate that they are (a) incompetent (we lost it...) or (b) covering something up (we lost it...)?

Anyone want to take a poll on whether the answer is (a) or (b)?
23 posted on 07/30/2002 6:53:07 AM PDT by norton
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To: glorygirl
bttt
24 posted on 07/30/2002 7:07:27 AM PDT by TigersEye
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To: honway; glorygirl; Nita Nupress; OKCSubmariner; aristeides; BlueDogDemo; Nancie Drew; Fred Mertz; ..
did I hear correctly when corgan "sourced" his information as coming from someone on the "oklahoma city bombing task force"?

does OKCBTF include keys & his group?

also caught a comment that after the motel owner reported this to the fibbers, an ATF agent came by and pick up the motel register (which has not been returned).

25 posted on 07/30/2002 7:59:39 AM PDT by thinden
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To: Freee-dame
Ping. I wonder if we will ever learn the truth.
26 posted on 07/30/2002 8:07:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: thinden
also caught a comment that after the motel owner reported this to the fibbers, an ATF agent came by and pick up the motel register (which has not been returned).

Please see reply #20

27 posted on 07/30/2002 9:06:58 AM PDT by honway
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To: thinden
From Crogan's Terrorist Motel article:

This officer, who also spoke to the Weekly on condition of anonymity, said that after the motel owner told him about the Moussaoui sighting, he contacted a member of Oklahoma's Joint Terrorism Task Force, which includes the FBI.

The FBI finally acted on the tip. The motel owner said that on December 19, 2001, he went to FBI offices in Oklahoma City for a formal interview, where he was debriefed by an FBI agent and by Oklahoma City Police Sergeant Jerry Flowers.

28 posted on 07/30/2002 9:29:19 AM PDT by honway
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To: norton
Does the fact that the FBI still has the hotel register from the period prior to the OKC bombing indicate that they are (a) incompetent (we lost it...) or (b) covering something up (we lost it...)?

According to Crogan, the name in the register confiscated by the ATF is Bob Kling

Robert Kling was the name used to rent the Ryder truck at Elliot's Body Shop.

29 posted on 07/30/2002 9:32:33 AM PDT by honway
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To: norton
From the McVeigh Criminal Complaint:

4. The rental agent at Elliot's Body Shop in Junction City, Kansas was interviewed by the FBI on April 19, 1995. The individual who signed the rental agreement provided the following information:

a. The person who signed the rental agreement identified himself as BOB KLING, SSN: 962-42-9694, South Dakota's driver's license number YF942A6, and provided a home address of 428 Malt Drive, Redfield, South Dakota. The person listed the destination as 428 Maple Drive, Omaha, Nebraska

30 posted on 07/30/2002 9:36:52 AM PDT by honway
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To: honway
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/45/9-11-crogan.php

McVeigh reportedly stayed at the motel, under the name of Bob Kling, an alias he had used before, according to the FBI

31 posted on 07/30/2002 9:38:23 AM PDT by honway
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To: honway; Fred Mertz; OKCSubmariner; glorygirl; Shermy; rdavis84; Wallaby; Iwentsouth
This all happened during Clinton/Reno.

Tim was executed by Bush/Ashcroft.

Bush/Ashcroft will have to admit to a whole lot of obstruction of justice.

Bush/Ashcroft will have to admit that they covered up Clinton/Reno cover-up.

Sooo, both admins lied and continue to lie about this.

Who has lawsuits re this mess?

32 posted on 07/30/2002 12:27:07 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: All; Texasforever; Reagan Man; Kevin Curry; Roscoe; yall
Kookbuster alert!
- We need the official reaction to these allegations fellas..
33 posted on 07/30/2002 12:43:32 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: honway
OK,
But my question stands.
34 posted on 07/30/2002 6:59:24 PM PDT by norton
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To: norton
My answer is b. What's yours?
35 posted on 07/30/2002 7:08:19 PM PDT by honway
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To: JohnHuang2
bump to read later
36 posted on 07/30/2002 8:14:39 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: honway; glorygirl; thinden; OKCSubmariner
I haven't seen OKCSub lately. Have you?

I also heard through the gravevine that rdavis84 was banned. Hopefully, it's a temporary timeout.
37 posted on 07/30/2002 9:53:45 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
I haven't heard from OKCSub since 7-22.

I think rdavis has been banned permanently, and based on his replies, I can see no reason for it.

38 posted on 07/31/2002 12:43:27 PM PDT by honway
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To: honway
Appreciate your response.
39 posted on 07/31/2002 12:45:04 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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