Terrorist won't be the death of America but Porn & Sexual Americans will

7/30/2002 | TLBSHOW

[TLBSHOW]

Her parents were very upset and going to pieces over it. They did a local interview and found our minster and youth group head to interview. Her name is Gail! Not sure what ever happened to her after I moved from there.

[billbears]

Here is where the whole Freedom thing becomes dangerous for some. I think you are having a hard time with the notion that the idea of Freedom, means the ability to disagree. That disagreement can be regarding someone's personal morality, and to some that is an unacceptable conclusion.

No, here's where the Freedom thing becomes dangerous for all. When it is not limited by moral compasses instilled in us from not only religious teachings, but our ancestors who fought to start a nation of states and believed the same things. By accepting a 'rolling' standard of morality you are no better than a liberal. The Constitution is a 'living breathing document' or 'it feels good, it's not hurting anyone so do it' or 'well it's my choice', all lines used by liberals in the past 50 years to destroy the morality, yes instilled morality that the Founders believed. And that belief was instituted in state laws, not federal, that were passed to enforce that morality

Morality means different things to different people. Why not simply adhere to your OWN personal morality, and allow other theirs?

Oh, well that's just grand isn't it? Tell me, if it's the right of each and every citizen to do whatever the h#ll they want, is it safe to say you'll take all the porn shops and sex shops in your neighborhood then? Because A LOT of citizens of their respective states don't want them for one reason or another. It goes back to the living breathing document issue. I find it humorous, no sad really, that a phrase that has been used for years by liberals is being picked up by those that consider themselves conservative to condone something that their grandparents would beat the ever living stuffing out of them if they discovered some of these hidden actions. Aren't conservatives trying to return or stop at a certain level of not only government control, but moral decline. Seems to me I used to hear that in Republican platform speeches on an everyday basis. Now we have a 'conservative' candidate here in NC (Viagra Bob's wife, Giddy Dolt) that has actually promoted the homosexual lifestyle in some of her previous positions

In your example of driving, I would think that we all decide to accept the consequence of our driving, knowing that every time we do, we take our lives in our hands.

Well I'm glad you're a testament to strength then because I can give first hand examples of people that not only 'thought' they could handle it, but continued in it knowing full well they were trapped. I would leave you with a much quoted yet often ignored statement from the 2nd President of these United States, John Adams. It was true then and if the Constitution is worth the paper it was printed on, it is still true today. Whether or not you choose to accept these words are up to you but it doesn't change the intent, meaning, and the belief of the Founders

“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion; our Constitution was written only for a moral and religious people, and it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.”

[Red Jones]

thanks for positive feedback; I will tell you that the idea I said in #217 would prevent a lot of teen boys from getting into porn because they would nearly all not get it if there was merely a $3 tax per month on access to it. This would mean more families, less dysfunctionalism, less homosexuality, more happiness. A few years ago wasn't it Al gore who orchestrated a $1.50 or so fee per month on all internet users or phone lines and it was done almost in secret with no vote by congress. When that was made public nobody cared. We tax just about anything and everything. People accept it easily. But you talk about the modest tax I proposed on access to porn and people go ballistic. That tells you right there it is a good idea.

[TLBSHOW]

Predictably, a number of pinheads will take your post personally instead of trying to connect the dots.


11 posted on 7/30/02 12:05 PM Eastern by F16Fighter


You nailed this thread early on..........Thanks for your insight on this important issue of what porn is doing to this nation.

[yendu bwam]

But you talk about the modest tax I proposed on access to porn and people go ballistic. That tells you right there it is a good idea.

I agree.

[gatechie]

With respect, this isn't an "attack," it's a deliberate attempt on the part of the user to access it. Its presence constitutes that old demon "temptation,"

I beg to differ. Porn chat rooms use key words like Barney, tele-tubbies, dragon-ball-z etc. They use words that they know kids will be looking for and lure them in. Studies have proven that you can see one second of a porn visual in several hours worth of TV viewing, and the next day, the only thing you remember is that porn picture.

Last week my husband was trying to find an MP3 of a cartoon theme song - the cartoon is targeted at 1st - 5th graders. Mixed in with the music MP3s was a .mp3.exe file which opened almost a dozen screens of explicit porn and links to other porn sites on his computer. This is why our kids don't have direct access to the internet.

We weren't looking for it, it snuck in under a false pretense. With this many screens popping open, it would take a child or teen-ager enough time trying to close tham all to see the contents of some of them. Just like junkies on the street - that's what the porn peddlers are counting on. They are a sick, sick group, seeking to make money off of the corruption of children.

[yendu bwam]

We weren't looking for it, it snuck in under a false pretense. With this many screens popping open, it would take a child or teen-ager enough time trying to close tham all to see the contents of some of them. Just like junkies on the street - that's what the porn peddlers are counting on. They are a sick, sick group, seeking to make money off of the corruption of children.

And MTV is part and parcel of it.

[yendu bwam]

Two questions beg - did she ever make it out of that lifestyle - and is she still alive ? Do you have a first name for a prayer?

I will add my own.

[yendu bwam]

Nobody's talking about sex inside of marriage. The attraction between men and women is God-given, for the purpose of forming families and keeping them together, and providing a pair of loving, trusting parents, which is each child's birthright

A lot of people don't believe this anymore. But I do. And I've had so far a wonderful, fulfilled and happy married life, with three super wonderful children. I hope what I teach my children will allow them the same.

[TLBSHOW]

Forget sex key words, try this one for an eye opener and I wonder if George Bush knows?

www.whitehouse.com

[TLBSHOW]

We need a grassroots movement to get porn off the net and away from children that might want to go to to the whitehouse on the net and instead end up at a porn site.

The email is pooring in and this one I have been told I could post if I wanted. Here it is.

Great post and well worth thinking about. Although I imagine there are some that would disagree with you even here. Interesting as to what 'conservative' means nowadays isn't it?

[pray4liberty]

Sex is wonderful. It's always been wonderful. It will always be wonderful. That will not change. However, porno just cheapens it, and degrades the people who indulge in it.

[Neckbone]

Surely sir, one such as 'learned' as you would dare not wish us to return to Victorian ideals, now would you?

I'm sorry I lost my blinking "Sarcasm" .gif- apparently you needed it.

[Greeklawyer]

I remember when pinball machines were the great danger to our youth.

(not to diminish any arguments, it is always someTHING to blame instead of SomeONE.)

[BuddhaBoy]

No, here's where the Freedom thing becomes dangerous for all. When it is not limited by moral compasses instilled in us from not only religious teachings, but our ancestors who fought to start a nation of states and believed the same things. By accepting a 'rolling' standard of morality you are no better than a liberal.

I think you missed my point. I didnt say anything about a 'rolling standard of morality', I only suggested that your version of morality might be different from that of others, and that freedom allows for that, where religions and other standards do not. There are not, nor should there be exceptions to Freedom. To do so, would make the very Constitution you sight, a hypocrital exercise.

I find it humorous, no sad really, that a phrase that has been used for years by liberals is being picked up by those that consider themselves conservative to condone something that their grandparents would beat the ever living stuffing out of them if they discovered some of these hidden actions. Aren't conservatives trying to return or stop at a certain level of not only government control, but moral decline

I personally think that very meaning of Conservatism has been stolen and redefined by those looking to impose a certain ethic and behavior on others, in the same way that Liberals do. Conservatism is about limiting ALL forms of control, not just governmental. You might read your Consitution again. It is a difficult notion for some to accept that Morality is not defined by Conservatives or Liberals, but by the Individuals that the Constitution is designed to protect. The Constution says that you and I have a right to disagree on our words and deeds, so long as we don't limit each others pursuit of happiness. You and I might agree that what some people choose in that regard to be unfortunate, but that doesnt give us the right to stop them.

“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion; our Constitution was written only for a moral and religious people, and it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.”

Respectfully, John Adams was one man, intitled to his opinion. There were plenty of forefathers in complete disagreement with him. The fact that he was a President means only that. There are plently of quotes from Presidents good and bad, and I certainly would not expect you to agree with every one of them.

[christine]

your questions are most scientific, general. ;)

[general_re]

Hey, everyone else seems to be getting government handouts these days, but as a plain old middle-class white guy, I've been on the sidelines until now. But now there's a class for me...

Well, I'm here and I'm proud to be a Sexual-American, so gimme, gimme, gimme ;)

[TLBSHOW]

BUMP

[Gladwin]

America vs. Porn

http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=america&q2=porn&B1=I%27m+Feeling+Groggy%21%21+Go%21&compare=1&langue=us

Video Clerk story (their store rents pr0n; it is alternately funny, sad, and disgusting; sometimes, it is all three)

http://www.improvisation.ws/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4475

[Gladwin]

Love vs. Porn

http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=Porn&q2=Love&B1=I%27m+Feeling+Groggy%21%21+Go%21&compare=1&langue=us

Love wins!