Wildfire News, Successful burnout diminishes threat to Illinois Valley, Oregon homes

Oregon Live/ AP ^ | 2 August 2002 | Jeff Barnard

[Grampa Dave]

This sounds like good news. Lets hope so.

Again, would the local Freepers in this area please post what you have heard or seen.

[Grampa Dave]

Appears to be some good news finally for those innocents in the Illinois Valley area.

The live report on the hour (8 am) on Lars Station confirmed this potential good news.

If you have any more news, please post it.

[Grampa Dave]

This if FYI.

Please use your magic Pinger List to let this potential good news go out.

[Granof8]

Rick Hartigan, USFS information officer for West Florence fire, reports at 7:30 a.m. on August 2: Fire in very much the same area as yesterday, did not advance toward Agness. Very little change in the weather forecast, winds will swing back and forth, upper level low coming in for the weekend, offshore flow with higher humidity. Chance of RAIN in four days. Showing good recovery at night. Activity yesterday, completion of triage work at Agness, more to be done. Dozers still working on line. Wilderness Retreat (14 miles up Chetco) work expected to be done today. Bringing in helicopters today, portable 10,000 gallon tank being set up at (Curry County's) Oak Flat for helicopters to dip from. Helicopters capable of dropping 150 to 2500 gallons at one time. No percentage of containment of fire, no containment date.

Sheriff Kent Owens advises any evacuation notice will come through his office which will provide security. Road closure at the North Bank of Chetco at the South Fork bridge except for residents.

Mike Murphy, emergency services director, said Curry General Hospital is prepared to treat those with smoke related problems or injuries from the fire lines. A Red Cross shelter is ready at the high school.

Coos Forest Protection agency reports Florence and Biscuit fires not yet merged as of 5 p.m. August 1. Fire continues to burn primarily in the Siskiyou National forest.

KURY Radio reports a lot of smoke in Brookings-Harbor this morning. Some of the best marijuana gardens have burned with the forests. Great progress with Shelley Creek fire - 50% contained since yesterday (August 1). Highway 199 remains closed through Sunday.

ALERT FOR CALIFORNIA: Authorities on Tuesday were searching for Brookings resident Billy Gene Preuitt, who is suspected of murdering his neighbor Carol Zimmerman. Anyone who has any information about Preuitt, or who has seen Zimmerman's red 1990 Toyota Corolla with Oregon license plate VXG 212, is asked call the Brookings Police Department at (541) 469-3118, or the Crime Stoppers hotline (800) 974-0000. Preuitt, who lives in the next door apartment, is being sought in connection with her murder. He was reported to be driving Zimmerman's 1990 red Toyota Corolla when last seen at a motel in Redding, Calif.

[Grampa Dave]

Folks, here is a great new update from our Granof8, who is in Gold Beach.

Again, we see the power of Freepers when it comes to getting the news and what is really happening out for the rest of us.

[madfly]

ping

[Grampa Dave]

This is a timely thread.

Sounds like other Senators want the same exemptions to manage the forests/wildlands in their states that Mullah Shorty Da$$hole wants: (If It's Good Enough for Da$$hole's Voters, It's good enough for the other states)

[madfly]

ATTENTION: Watch ABC's 20/20 tonight! Here is an email from him on tonight's segment:

This Friday's "Give Me A Break" about the "missing" lynx. The Canada lynx is getting some people very excited. An environmental group burned down a ski lodge in Vail because they thought it might threaten the lynx.

There are tens of thousands of lynx throughout North America, but because the bureaucrats weren't sure there were any in southern Washington state-they commissioned a million dollar study to find out. They placed pieces of carpet soaked with a catnip mixture on trees hoping the lynx would then rub up against them and leave some fur. Sure enough--samples the biologists sent to the lab contained hairs from a Canada lynx!

This is a frightening prospect for people who like using the land. Finding a threatened species can set in motion a series of events that can wreck your life if you're a rancher or farmer or just someone who wants to drive in the woods. It's a reason lots of people in southern Washington are scared of the government's environmental police. As land rights activist Mike Paulson put it, "We basically say if you have an endangered species in your area, we are going to take your livelihood away, we're going to destroy your communities, and we're going to make it very difficult for your families to survive."

That didn't happen this time because it turned out the government's biologist were caught cheating! The lynx hair sent to the lab came from a lynx that lives in a cage, miles away from where the biologists claimed they found the hair. How could this happen? Jim Beers, a Fish and Wildlife biologist for 31 years, says his agency changed from promoting science to pushing what some believe is fanatical environmentalism. Now he says the agency is " staffed with environmental radical activists" who will twist facts until they get the results they want; and what they really want...is to ban people from forests. "Once you establish that there are any lynx in the area, ...the areas in between suddenly become very urgent to not allow road to be built, not allow the ski slopes to come in... not allow grazing... ultimately, not to let you or I drive our wives and kids in for a picnic."

The biologists do have an explanation; they weren't trying to cheat, they say, they were just testing the labs to make sure they could actually identify lynx fur. Beers replies: "That's the same as you telling me that you caught them walking out of the bank with money and they said oh, we were just seeing if the system works here, we were going to return it tomorrow."

Were the biologists fired for cheating? No. How often do governments fire anyone? They were "verbally counseled," but they are still on the job. It makes me wonder what other parts of their science we don't know the truth about.

If we now have the extremists giving orders with the power of government, everyone's freedom is at risk.

Give me a break.

[WaterDragon]

According to the article the burnout removed 'brush and debris' from the path of the fire, depriving it of fuel.

That this brush and debris has not been regularly cleaned out all along is entirely due to the Democratic Party/Enviromentalist Socialists forestry policies preventing it, and preventing thinning the forests with logging as well.

All the tree-huggers and those they have deceived in Oregon need to take a good hard look at these fires. Nothing beautiful about forests denuded with such hot fires. Nothing there for the precious spotted owl, either.

[Clive]

The biggest threat to the environment is the Environmentalist mowvement.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!

[calawah98]

Bump

[cake_crumb]

This is better news than we've had for quite a while.

Thank heaven for Hotshots, and thank YOU for all the hard work in bringing us updated information, Grampa.

Adding all the links to your related posts is a GREAT idea, especially for those who haven't been following the situation out there as closely as some have.

[nutmeg]

Thanks for your daily update, Grampa. Sounds like things are looking up a bit. Continued prayers for our Oregon FReepers...

[tubebender]

More fire news in the times-standard this morning. The weather should give them a break unless it contains more lightning.

[cake_crumb]

You know...thinning forests and eliminating the overabundant fuel shouldn't require an act of congress. It's a common sense policy which Forestry ought to be allowed to impliment...WITHOUT FEAR OF ENVIRONAZI LAWSUITS!!

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for your kind words.

You posted this, "Adding all the links to your related posts is a GREAT idea, especially for those who haven't been following the situation out there as closely as some have."

Here is how our great group can help here. Please link any related enviral issue thread to this thread, and then provide a link on this thread to get to that thread.

All of this is tied in together, and we need to make it easy for those following this fire to link to another enviral thread with a tie in.

Even if it is enviral whacko news that is happening on the East Cost, it has a tie in to those of us on the West Coast.

Conservatives across the Freeper Nation need to realize that if envirals are causing a problem in Oregon/Kali, that problem will have a direct relationship to their state even if it is 3,000 miles away.

Every federal tax payer will be paying billions for these Enviral related wild fires due to their agendas.

This is plea to all good enviralists to link this thread to other enviral threads and vice versa. It is all part of the enviral attempt to destroy America in the name of the environment.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[dixiechick2000]

Lots of good info here, Gramps.

"One complication was a chance of rain on Monday."

The weather is cooling down quite a bit. I hope the cool weather makes it all the way down there. We are supposed to have rain up here on Sunday, but I understand that the firefighters don't want rain as it would hinder their backfires and, possibly, may contain more lightening.
So, here's hoping that they get the cooler weather, and no rain.
I, also, saw on the news last night that they are considering changing from a 30 minute evacuation to a 24 hour evacuation. The firefighters seem to be cautiously optimistic.

Thanks for the ping, madfly!

[EBUCK]

My Brother just left this morning for Shady Cove to build another house. G*d help them evnirals is something happens to him while down there.

Thanks so much, again, for your vigilence!! We Oregonians appreciate your efforts!

EBUCK