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Circumcision Case to Proceed to Trial
Mens News Daily ^ | 8/1/02

Posted on 08/02/2002 12:56:18 PM PDT by Jean S

Berkeley, CA - This month, North Dakota District Judge Cynthia Rothe-Seeger denied a motion for summary judgment by defendants in the Flatt v. Kantak circumcision case, and decided it will proceed to trial on February 3, 2003. The precedent setting decision confirms that a baby who is circumcised can sue his doctor when he reaches age of majority, even if there was parental consent for the circumcision, and even if the results are considered to be 'normal.'

"This is the latest in a series of warnings to doctors who still circumcise: proceed at your peril, because even if you get parental consent and do a standard job of the circumcision, the child can still grow up and sue you for taking away part of his penis," says lawyer J. Steven Svoboda, executive director of Attorneys for the Rights of the Child (ARC).

Like the on-going William Stowell case in New York, this case would be a breakthrough in establishing that circumcision is litigious even where there is no "botch" and "consent" is given, but there are problems with the "consent." In this case, the mother was not informed about the procedure prior to signing the "consent" form. Plaintiff Flatt's attorney Zenas Baer says, "There will be a nine-person jury hearing this precedent setting case. I am optimistic we will be able to have the "informed consent" issue decided by the jury. "

Svoboda said, "This is the second significant legal victory this year, after the case of William Stowell also survived summary judgment and is proceeding to trial. Both cases will establish that, even where the procedure is performed at the professional standard, a circumcision is litigious if the consent is not informed."

Baer added, "The court also observed that, in an informed consent case, the type of information to be disclosed to a parent is a 'standard set by law for physicians rather than one which physicians may or may not impose upon themselves.' This is a huge statement and will put the physicians in their place if we can convince nine reasonable people that the physicians failed to give adequate information."

Marilyn Milos, Director of NOCIRC, an organization that seeks to end routine infant circumcision in North America, says, "Female genital mutilation has been outlawed, and we need the law to set the standard here, too, followed by aggressive educational programs. Parents and doctors need to know that this is a harm that lasts a lifetime."

Svoboda stated "The foundation is well laid for lawsuits. Doctors who are still doing circumcisions are already investing in a lot of trouble, and this case will make their troubles worse. They just have to wait 18 years until that baby grows up, and they're in for a lawsuit. An army of lawyers will be there with this precedent and many more in their arsenal."

This landmark case brings into question whether a physician can remove healthy, normal tissue from unconsenting minors for non-therapeutic reasons, and whether a parent can legally consent to a medically non-indicated surgery for a minor child. Svoboda is convinced that this case will have a major impact on circumcision in the U.S. "Doctors ignore a lot of medical literature," he said, "and they ignore the screams of the babies, but they listen when they hear the word 'malpractice.' As a lawyer willing to sue, I' ve never had a doctor not listen to me."

Arizona and Missouri have recently dropped Medicaid funding for circumcision, joining six states, and other states are considering similar steps. The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) first acknowledged that there was no medical justification for routine circumcision in 1971. In 1999, the AAP reaffirmed that it does not recommend routine circumcision. The American Medical Association concurred in 2000, calling routine circumcision "non-therapeutic." No national or international medical organization recommends routine circumcision. The United States is the only country that continues to circumcise the majority of its newborns for non-religious reasons. As parents have become more educated about the surgery, the circumcision rate in the US has fallen to 57%.

For More Information Contact:

Zenas Baer, J.D.
Attorney for Joshiah Flatt,
218-483-3372,
zbaer@zbaer.com

J. Steven Svoboda, J.D. Executive Director,
Attorneys for the Rights of the Child,
510-595-5550
arc@post.harvard.edu
www.arclaw.org

Marilyn Milos, RN Director,
NOCIRC,
415-488-9883,
nocirc@cris.com

www.nocirc.org


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: informedconsent; triallawyers
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1 posted on 08/02/2002 12:56:18 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS
Just think, where would this country be without the trial lawyers association?
2 posted on 08/02/2002 12:59:20 PM PDT by tcostell
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To: JeanS
What if the parents are Jewish?

For that matter, why aren't the parents being sued? Oh, that's right. Because their homeowner's insurer would tell the plaintiff's attorney it ain't covered. Just shake down the malpractice insurer instead.

Slime bags.

3 posted on 08/02/2002 1:02:11 PM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: JeanS
"This is the latest in a series of warnings to doctors who still circumcise: proceed at your peril, because even if you get parental consent and do a standard job of the circumcision, the child can still grow up and sue you for taking away part of his penis," says lawyer J. Steven Svoboda, executive director of Attorneys for the Rights of the Child (ARC).

Note: If you plant the removed foreskin in potting soil and water it daily...

it will grow up to be an attorney.

4 posted on 08/02/2002 1:03:12 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: JeanS
Attorneys for the Rights of the Child (ARC)

ahhh, a Hitleryesk group
Talk about extremists
6 posted on 08/02/2002 1:04:08 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: JeanS
I support radical, mandatory, unanaesthetized circumcision for lawyers who file the most frivolous law suits. And you can interpret the "radical" part any way you'd like.
7 posted on 08/02/2002 1:04:43 PM PDT by andy_card
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
ROFL!
8 posted on 08/02/2002 1:04:53 PM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: zhabotinsky
By golly you're right.
9 posted on 08/02/2002 1:08:13 PM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: JeanS
The precedent setting decision confirms that a baby who is circumcised can sue his doctor when he reaches age of majority . . .

That's it! The world has gone stark raving mad.

10 posted on 08/02/2002 1:09:35 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: JeanS
"This is a huge statement and will put the physicians in their place if we can convince nine reasonable
people that the physicians failed to give adequate information."

If these doctors are liable because they failed to give adequate information - this might be laying the groundwork for attys to go after abortionists. They receive consent - but rarely is it truly informed. Millions and millions of possible lawsuits!
11 posted on 08/02/2002 1:12:08 PM PDT by gramcam
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To: JeanS
I use those translation internet sites every once in a while.  I decided to run this phrase through to get an interpretation.

I selected...

Legalese to English

I entered...

Your honor, my client(s) have been wronged here.  I don't believe they can ever be restored to wholeness, but at least they can be compensated and future potential wronged individuals spared the pain of this dreadful occurrence.

Translation...

Your honor, I and my firm need more funds.  I don't believe we will ever have enough funds, but at least a lucrative outcome of this case will help, and possibly even allow us to retire.  And there's always the possibility that my client was actually hurt, although they are leading a healthy productive live and can prove no damages.

13 posted on 08/02/2002 1:14:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: JeanS
I am suing my dcotor then, they circumcised way too much off when I was a baby...a whopping 3 inches..leaving me with only 9".
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14 posted on 08/02/2002 1:18:15 PM PDT by Delbert
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To: JeanS
Just a little off the top please....
15 posted on 08/02/2002 1:18:50 PM PDT by xfmrman
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To: JeanS
"This is the latest in a series of warnings to doctors who still circumcise: proceed at your peril, because even if you get parental consent and do a standard job of the circumcision, the child can still grow up and sue you for taking away part of his penis," says lawyer J. Steven Svoboda, executive director of Attorneys for the Rights of the Child (ARC).

Hmmm... I wonder if he sued the doctor who evidently took away part of his brain.

16 posted on 08/02/2002 1:19:19 PM PDT by Sloth
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To: Delbert
My wife just read my last post over my shoulder and said that i should have added..."Only in my dreams" ; )
17 posted on 08/02/2002 1:20:35 PM PDT by Delbert
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To: JeanS
*SNIP* ping!
18 posted on 08/02/2002 1:20:51 PM PDT by Mike-o-Matic
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To: JeanS
Ironic isn't it that a minor child can have an abortion without parent's consent, but let the parent give consent for a circumcision and watch out.
19 posted on 08/02/2002 1:21:06 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: JeanS
Next week: Adults sue McDonald's for their obesity as a result of their parents buying them Happy Meals as children.
20 posted on 08/02/2002 1:22:39 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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