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Mohamed Atta Was Here
The Weekly Standard ^ | 08/12/2002 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 08/03/2002 7:02:39 AM PDT by Pokey78

. . . And met with Saddam Hussein's man in Prague.

PRAGUE
Mohamed Atta, the leader of the September 11 hijackers, visited Prague twice in the fifteen months before the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, in June 2000 and April 2001, and met with an Iraqi agent at least once during the second visit. Czech officials say they have a photograph of the meeting. Atta, who was not previously known to Czech authorities, turned up in routine surveillance by Czech counterintelligence officials of Ahmed al-Ani, a consul at the Iraqi embassy here. Whether Atta and al-Ani discussed plans for September 11 is unknown. But this is known: Iraq had targeted an American institution located in Prague, the headquarters of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. Before he was expelled from the Czech Republic last year, al-Ani was spotted--and photographed by RFE/RL officials--lingering outside the headquarters just off Wenceslas Square. Since September 11, the building has been guarded by Czech soldiers.

The story of Atta's contact with an Iraqi agent has been disputed by some American and European officials. Time, the Washington Post, and Newsweek, plus other publications, have raised doubts about it. But last week Martin Palous, the Czech ambassador to the United States, gave me the same account of Atta's time in Prague as other Czech officials had given to New York Times columnist William Safire, who first wrote about the Atta visit last November. Palous was home in Prague for consultations and a vacation. Both Czech prime minister Milos Zeman and interior minister Stanislav Gross have also publicly confirmed the meeting between Atta and al-Ani.

The meeting has political and international importance. A connection between Iraq and Atta, an al Qaeda operative under Osama bin Laden, bolsters the case for military action by the United States to remove the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq. President Bush has repeatedly said he intends to depose Saddam--without saying when. But some European leaders and American politicians have insisted a link to September 11 is needed to justify an attack on Iraq. While the meeting might not tie Saddam directly to those attacks, it does link Iraq to the al Qaeda terrorist network, to whom Iraqi agents might secretly have slipped biological, chemical, or nuclear weapons to be used against America. Atta was living in Florida and plotting the September 11 hijackings at the time he made his two trips to Prague.

At the very least, al-Ani's presence outside RFE/RL's headquarters and an Iraqi message saying RFE/RL broadcasts into Iraq must be stopped implicate Iraq in a scheme to disable an American facility. The Iraqi message was intercepted shortly after RFE/RL began broadcasting into Iraq in October 1998. For eight hours daily, the broadcasts criticize Saddam's dictatorship and urge the adoption of democracy. (RFE/RL broadcasts to 34 countries, 18 of them predominantly Muslim.) From time to time, Egyptians and Yemenis have been seen outside the headquarters in Prague, appearing to check it out. Al-Ani, a top agent of Iraqi intelligence, was spotted only once. Saddam's first step, according to an informed source, was to send a special operative to Prague with $500,000 to be used to halt the broadcasts into Iraq. The operative is said to have embezzled the money. Then al-Ani took over the job, but he was deported. The broadcasts, known as Radio Free Iraq, continue.

The security of the RFE/RL headquarters became an issue in Washington last May when First Lady Laura Bush was planning a trip to Prague. Despite the threat of terrorism, she visited the headquarters, entering by the back door as a decoy car went to the front door. The building, a symbol of America, is now regarded as one of the four most prominent targets for terrorists in Europe. The other three are the U.S. embassies in London and Paris and Ramstein Air Base in Germany.

Czech officials have expressed alarm about an attack and proposed to relocate RFE/RL miles outside Prague at an abandoned Soviet military base. Thomas Dine, the head of RFE/RL, has noisily refused to move and, in a newspaper interview, accused the Czech government of having "capitulated to terrorism." There is suspicion, however, that the government's real motive is to regain the valuable property in downtown Prague, which is rented to RFE/RL for $1 a year.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: terrorwar

1 posted on 08/03/2002 7:02:39 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Czech officials have expressed alarm about an attack and proposed to relocate RFE/RL miles outside Prague at an abandoned Soviet military base. Thomas Dine, the head of RFE/RL, has noisily refused to move and, in a newspaper interview, accused the Czech government of having "capitulated to terrorism." There is suspicion, however, that the government's real motive is to regain the valuable property in downtown Prague, which is rented to RFE/RL for $1 a year.

That's an interesting twist I hadn't considered.

2 posted on 08/03/2002 7:28:23 AM PDT by piasa
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To: aristeides; Shermy
Ping
3 posted on 08/03/2002 7:32:32 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: piasa; The Great Satan
bttt
4 posted on 08/03/2002 7:39:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Pokey78
We now have a real smorgasbord of remarkable coincidences: Atta in Prague, Moussaoui in the same motel as McVeigh, and Atta on Longboat Key. Raise your hand if the full extent of 9/11 is being supressed.
5 posted on 08/03/2002 9:01:42 AM PDT by eno_
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To: eno_
APRIL 17, 2000: (CZECHOSLAVAKIA, IRAQ & ATTA) The Czechs expelled Iraqi al-Ani, who had diplomatic cover, as a hostile spy. Last night, a senior US diplomatic source told The Observer that Atta was not the only suspected al-Qaeda member who met al-Ani and other Iraqi agents in Prague. He said the Czechs monitored at least two further such meetings in the months before 11 September. The senior US intelligence source said the CIA believed that two other hijackers, al-Shehri and Jarrah, also met known Iraqi intelligence officers outside the US in the run-up to 9/11/2002. It is understood these meetings took place in the United Arab Emirates - where Iraq maintains its largest 'illegal', or non-diplomatic, cover intelligence operation, most of it devoted to oil exports and busting economic sanctions. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/568298/posts

6 posted on 08/03/2002 9:08:27 AM PDT by piasa
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To: Travis McGee
See #6.
7 posted on 08/03/2002 9:09:53 AM PDT by piasa
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To: Pokey78
As a result of these findings, what's the praquenosis on how we will respond?
8 posted on 08/03/2002 9:13:11 AM PDT by Consort
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To: eno_
I agree! McVeigh was the scapegoat and was part of a greater conspiracy!
9 posted on 08/03/2002 9:26:21 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: eno_
Is it possible that Moussaoui is the scapegoat for 9-11, they HAVE to execute someone. NOT that he is innocent, but the gov. seems to think the sheeples will settle down if they kill someone.
10 posted on 08/03/2002 9:27:24 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: eno_
Atta in Prague, Moussaoui in the same motel as McVeigh, and Atta on Longboat Key.

Did a search on "Longboat" and this was all I got:

Possible Longboat terrorist Incident
Do you have any other references?
11 posted on 08/03/2002 9:53:43 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard
There were a couple articles posted on FR recently on Longboat Key and a possible assasination attempt that was similar in form to the (nearly simultaneous!) hit on one of our allies in Afganistan.
12 posted on 08/03/2002 10:39:38 AM PDT by eno_
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To: *TerrOrWar; glorygirl
Index Bump
13 posted on 08/03/2002 11:13:54 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Pokey78
While the meeting might not tie Saddam directly to those attacks, it does link Iraq to the al Qaeda terrorist network

If Mohammed Atta flew to Prague to meet with an Iraqi agent a few months before 9-11, then Saddam Hussein is the real author of 9-11. No ifs, ands or buts about it. If Saddam Hussein is the real author of 9-11, then he must have built in a pretty serious back-end threat to deter the US from pointing the finger. And we all know what that is by now, don't we, kiddies?

14 posted on 08/03/2002 11:20:40 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: eno_
There were a couple articles posted on FR recently on Longboat Key and a possible assasination attempt that was similar in form to the (nearly simultaneous!) hit on one of our allies in Afganistan.

Do you have any links?

15 posted on 08/03/2002 11:36:12 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: Pokey78; All
Lots more on Atta HERE
16 posted on 08/03/2002 11:37:01 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: SlickWillard
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/726580/posts
17 posted on 08/03/2002 11:40:14 AM PDT by eno_
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18 posted on 08/03/2002 12:42:12 PM PDT by Nogbad
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To: Pokey78; Alamo-Girl; Gary Aldrich; amom; archy; aristeides; anymouse; AtticusX; backhoe; ...
"But some European leaders and American politicians have insisted a link to September 11 is needed to justify an attack on Iraq."

Interest ping. I find this quite ironic, especially in light of the administration's recent "reversal" on the alleged Atta appearance in Prague.

19 posted on 08/03/2002 1:55:52 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: eno_
Atta on Longboat Key

Atta breathed oxygen, therefore implicating other oxygen breathers in the 9/11 conspiracy.

That's basically the same logic that the "Longboat Key" story uses.

20 posted on 08/03/2002 1:56:56 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: Pokey78
Martin Palous, the Czech ambassador to the United States, gave me the same account of Atta's time in Prague as other Czech officials had given to New York Times columnist William Safire, who first wrote about the Atta visit last November. Palous was home in Prague for consultations and a vacation. Both Czech prime minister Milos Zeman and interior minister Stanislav Gross have also publicly confirmed the meeting between Atta and al-Ani.

But Time, the Washington Post, and Newsweek gasped, Heavens, no.

BLAAAA!

Sorry, I gotta go with the Czech ambassador to the U.S., the Czech prime minister, and the Czech interior ministor--not with Strobe Talbott, Howie Kurtz and Eleanor Clift.

Czechmate: Do Saddam Now.

21 posted on 08/03/2002 2:11:53 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: denydenydeny
This statement "Atta breathed oxygen, therefore implicating other oxygen breathers in the 9/11 conspiracy." is a gratuitous and ignorant pile of crap. I'll do the math for you:

The number of individuals who travelled to Longboat Key in the days before Bush's visit, not officially connected with his visit, could number only in the thousands, pehaps only hundreds. Of those hundreds of few thousand, the odds that Mohammed Atta is one of them is, at a minimum, hundreds of thousands to one against. That's without considering whether Atta would be there shortly before 9/11 for no reason.

Atta was peripatetic, but never without purpose. If he traveled it was to meet with someone connected with his mission. You must also believe he went to Prague for the accordion music and beer.

22 posted on 08/03/2002 2:22:11 PM PDT by eno_
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To: eno_
This statement "Atta breathed oxygen, therefore implicating other oxygen breathers in the 9/11 conspiracy." is a gratuitous and ignorant pile of crap.

Some people have obviously never traveled to the Keys and are thus unfamiliar with the limited access, as well as the geography, not realizing just how small Longboat Key is.

23 posted on 08/03/2002 2:32:58 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
Stretching narrowly for some eleven sun drenched miles between the waters of the Gulf of Mexico and Sarasota Bay, Longboat Key provides an ideal beach and bayfront setting for the ultimate in a Florida vacation. Home to 8,000 permanent residents, the Key attracts many Northerners who can appreciate the average year round 73 degree temperature. Whether you like to spend time shelling, biking, shopping, fishing, golfing or dining, the Key's relaxing activities are boundless. Tennis and golf enthusiasts will find first-class facilities here. Accommodations vary to suit everyone, from private suites in plush resorts and condominiums to beach front cottages and modest hotel rooms. Although known as a private island paradise, Longboat Key is only minutes from Sarasota and the many cultural activities the city offers which includes Van Wezel Performing Arts Center, Asolo Theater, Ringling Museum, Sarasota Ballet and Opera, live theater and more. Longboat Key offers a terrific shopping experience and you can find world-class shops on St. Armands Circle, just a bridge away.

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One doesn't breathe this oxygen frivolously or for free.

24 posted on 08/03/2002 2:43:37 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: glorygirl
Um...Longboat Key is not in the Florida Keys.
25 posted on 08/03/2002 2:47:20 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: eno_
I am very suspicious of this report, because no other publication in the world except for something called the "Mad Cow News" discovered this person who had this Atta sighting. Not one. I repeat: There is absolutely zero confirmation of this story.

Atta's appearance at Shuckums in Hollywood, FL on the night of September 7 was reported by at least three witnesses and featured in every newspaper in America.

The Longboat Key story, I repeat, is garbage. I don't believe one word of it.

26 posted on 08/03/2002 2:55:44 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: denydenydeny
Thanks for the correction. I am the first to admit when I am wrong, and usually don't admonish other posters without double-checking myself. Just shows I wasn't paying as much attention as I thought during all those drives down U.S.1.
27 posted on 08/03/2002 3:03:41 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: eno_
May I put my hand down now, the circulation has been cut off from it?

Very interesting stuff tonight on the Freep.
28 posted on 08/03/2002 8:11:02 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: glorygirl
But you're right nevertheless.
29 posted on 08/03/2002 8:35:38 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: piasa; maica; Freee-dame
I assume that the NSC and president has known all this and more all along, and the "domestic source" was a red herring to buy time while rebuilding war stocks for Iraq.
30 posted on 08/03/2002 9:05:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: The Great Satan
Do you think that Saddam has a proven WMD (such as 100s of kilos of anthrax) already in the USA, or have we been stalling to rebuild warstocks for the Iraq attack?

Or both?

31 posted on 08/03/2002 9:07:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee; Nogbad; Mitchell
Do you think that Saddam has a proven WMD (such as 100s of kilos of anthrax) already in the USA, or have we been stalling to rebuild warstocks for the Iraq attack?

I think we don't know whether he's bluffing or not, but we don't have any reason for optimism: technically, he could do it, and he has every motivation to do it, and it's in his character to do it. And, yes, we are stalling until we feel the short-term risk/long-term risk tradeoff of engaging Saddam shifts as a result of our civil defense preparations.

Looking back to the end of Gulf War is instructive. Saddam set the largest blaze in the history of the world, even after he had already lost Kuwait and was beating a retreat. Why? Well, obviously in a part because he's a bloodthirsty megalomaniac driven by anger and the lust for vengeance. But that's just the psychological level. The question has deeper, more important aspects. He's also a pragmatist and a survivor. Why, then, risk such a willful affront, that could only increase the chance that we would drive to Baghdad and terminate him with extreme prejudice? The answer to that question is that he knew we weren't going to do that. Why? Because he had loaded al-Husseini missiles with anthrax and was quite prepared to slaughter the civilian population of Israel if we pushed it to the brink, and we knew it. That wasn't publicized at the time, and it is only referred to today obliquely, because it's embarassing to admit that we can be pushed around by a two-bit thug. Nevertheless, that is the bottom line on the denoument to the Gulf War, unpalatable as it may be.

But there is another aspect again. That act of defiance was a warning and was therefore functional in the larger context of Saddam's approach to the use of violence. Today, contemplating what he will do if we try to remove him from power, in the light of his newly advertised military capabilities (the "human missiles crossing continents and cities" and, of course, his "special weapons"), our policymakers know that he is capable of anything, when pushed to the brink, and they must calculate accordingly. This is how thugs think, how they get to the top, and how they stay there. It's nothing new in human affairs, but this is the first time in history such an unmitigated thug has acquired weapons of mass destruction. We are about to find out what that means.

32 posted on 08/03/2002 9:47:22 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan; aristeides; thinden; Plummz
Because he [Saddam] had loaded al-Husseini missiles with anthrax and was quite prepared to slaughter the civilian population of Israel if we pushed it to the brink, and we knew it.

Are you talking about capabilities or intentions? Methinks you're stretching the threat a bit.

33 posted on 08/03/2002 9:54:31 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
Thanks Fred, but I don't think so. Denydenydeny raises a valid about Friday night, Sept.7. Of course the people in Longboat don't seem to be as sure about the date and the identities as the ones at the bar in Hollywood. But whenever three people claim to have seen something, I am suspect. The one waiter on the west coast talks about it being a "busy night" so we are led to assume the terrorists made their appearances at night. I suppose it is possible they could have made it back to Hollywood the same day, if it was earlier. Tampa is about a five and a half hour drive from Hollywood, depending on your route. And, considering they were pilots...well....anyway, I'm not quite ready to trash the theory yet, but some explanation is in order.
34 posted on 08/03/2002 9:59:56 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: Fred Mertz
Are you talking about capabilities or intentions?

Capabilities. See Saddam Hussein's Weapons of Mass Destruction (PBS Frontline):

  • Extensive BW program: Iraq had an extensive BW program from 1973 until at least 1991. In mid-1995, Iraq admitted that it had weaponized BW agents, but claimed that the entire BW program had been in "obliterated" in 1991 and that all BW weapons had been destroyed and all bulk BW agents had been deactivated. The Commission found, however, that the evidence produced in support of this claim was not credible, and that Iraq "retained suitable growth media, BW facilities, production equipment, teams of expert personnel, and the essential technical knowledge" after 1991.

  • Bulk production: In July, 1995, Iraq acknowledged that between 1988 and 1991, it had produced two BW agents in bulk: botulinum toxin and Bacillus anthracis spores (anthrax). Iraq reported 19,180 liters of botulinum toxin (10-20 fold concentrated) and 8445 liters of Bacillus anthracis spores (10 fold concentrated).

    UNSCOM found, however, that "bulk warfare agent production appears to be considerably understated," given the resources available to Iraq's BW program, including growth media and fermenter capacity. The Commission said that the production rate of Botulinum toxin could be as much as double the stated amount, and 3 times greater than that stated for Bacillus anthracis spores.

    Iraq claimed that it unilaterally destroyed more than 7500 liters of the Botulinum toxin and 3412 liters of Bacillus anthracis spores in 1991; UNSCOM noted that there was not evidence to support quantities claimed to be destroyed. The report concludes "the Commission has no confidence that all bulk agents have been destroyed... and that a BW capability does not exist in Iraq."

    Iraq also claims to have produced lesser quantities of clostridium perfringens spores, ricin, and wheat cover smut.

  • BW Warheads: Iraq claimed to have produced 25 Al-Hussein missile warheads and filled them with BW agents. The Commission found that there was no credible evidence to show that only 25 missiles were produced and filled. Iraq declared that the 25 missiles were unilaterally destroyed; the Commission found enough physical evidence to account for the declared quantities of BW warheads, but the location of the remnants were inconsistent with Iraq's story.

  • BW bombs: Iraq declared that 200 R-400 aerial bombs were manufactured for BW purposes, but acknowledged that the numbers of bombs filled with particular agents (100 with botulinum toxin, 50 with bacillus anthracis spores, and 7 with aflatoxin) were "guesses." UNSCOM did find evidence of the destruction of some BW bombs at the site declared by Iraq, but found that the remnants account for less than one third of the bombs Iraq claims to have destroyed. In addition, UNSCOM found evidence of R-400A bombs carrying BW at an airfield where no BW weapons were declared.

See also Weapons of Mass Destruction in the Middle East (Monterey Institute of International Studies):
Also, see Pentagon Shifts Anthrax Vaccine to Civilian Uses (New York Times):
During the Persian Gulf war, intelligence officials argued that Saddam Hussein would not use his stockpile of anthrax and other chemicals unless he and his regime were clearly threatened. The administration's recent statements about the need for "regime change" in Iraq, its inclusion of Baghdad in the "axis of evil," and President Bush's articulation of a pre-emption doctrine that would justify American military action against any hostile nation that makes unconventional weapons, however, have increased the threat that Mr. Hussein might use his large arsenal, some officials say.
Think through the implications of the bolded statement above.
35 posted on 08/03/2002 10:14:14 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: PhilDragoo
The Czech politicos are certainly kissing up to the neocons in the Pentagon by pushing the Atta/Iraq story, but the head of Czech domestic intelligence deinies the meeting. . .
36 posted on 08/03/2002 10:33:50 PM PDT by Plummz
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To: The Great Satan
If Mohammed Atta flew to Prague to meet with an Iraqi agent a few months before 9-11, then Saddam Hussein is the real author of 9-11. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

Not necessarily. Atta seems to have been under instructions from his handlers to make himself visible. Cf. his ranting at the Ag Dept office. This could have just been another piece of that particular puzzle.

37 posted on 08/03/2002 10:35:17 PM PDT by Plummz
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To: denydenydeny
You're wrong. ANother source was posted on the thread with the Hopsicker article.
38 posted on 08/03/2002 10:36:51 PM PDT by Plummz
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To: Plummz
The Czech politicos are certainly kissing up to the neocons in the Pentagon by pushing the Atta/Iraq story, but the head of Czech domestic intelligence deinies the meeting. .

The number of Czechs who insist the meeting took place well outnumber the one guy who denied it. And the one guy who denied it simultaneously admitted that the April 8 Atta trip to Prague did in fact happen. As eno_ put it eloquently earlier in the thread,

I didn't know you were such a Washington Post and Mike Isikoff fan, plummz.

39 posted on 08/04/2002 12:50:14 AM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: Plummz
You're wrong. ANother source was posted on the thread with the Hopsicker article.

Oh, that article in the world-famous Longboat Observer? I appreciate you reminding me about that particular article. I noticed that Hopsicker is quite vague about dates and times, and doesn't quote from it. Reading the Observer piece, I can see why. This is from the Longboat Observer article:

Based on this information, either

1) The Atta appearance took place three weeks earlier than Hopsicker wants us to believe it did. This pretty much wipes out Hopsicker's inflammatory Bush/Atta headline. "Atta was in same town as Bush three weeks before" just doesn't have the same zip. Especially when it's in an area (Sarasota/Venice) where Atta lived for almost the entire latter half of the year 2000, and where he presumably had many contacts. As I wrote in another thread, based on Atta's travels in calendar 2001, he "intersected" with many millions of people. Or, the other possibility is

2) Atta was at this hotel bar on the night of September 7. This is problematic in that it directly contradicts the hundreds of accounts that Atta and Al-Shehhi were at Shuckums in Hollywood the same night. The several witnesses at Shuckums were very precise with details (as the Longboat people were not). Given the 5-and-a-half-hour travel time between Longboat and Hollywood as mentioned by glorygirl elsewhere in this thread, it is impossible for them to have done both the same night:

The other thing is, Hopsicker's "exclusive interview" with Darlene Sievers (as the Observer calls her) or Sieverts (as Hopsicker calls her) directly contradicts her own account in the Observer, quoted above. To the Observer, Sievers/Sieverts insists that Atta was there "three weeks before September 11th." But to Hopsicker, she changes her story so that it now agrees with that of Boyal and Bean. Now, she says, Atta was there September 7th.

I repeat my opinion from above, and amplify it. The Hopsicker story is garbage. It is garbage.

Hey, wait a minute. I know who the terrorist mastermind was. On October 10, 2000, while Atta and Al-Shehhi were living nearby, Vice President Gore spent the day largely out of public view here at Longboat Key. .

Hey, making up stuff on the fly is fun!

40 posted on 08/04/2002 1:56:59 AM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: denydenydeny
It's nice that some poster's comment backs up your theory, but that does not make it gospel truth. As I said in the post above, Atta was certainly under instruction to make himself visible. That could have been his "mission" in and of itself; he didn't have to know more than what he was told by his handler(s).

I didn't know you were such a fan of Larry Flynt and Hustler. < /non sequitur >

41 posted on 08/04/2002 6:45:34 AM PDT by Plummz
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To: denydenydeny
Well, your link provides one witness, not hundreds. So, that's about 2.5 to 1. Too bad there are no credit card receipts and these fellows liked cash. . .
42 posted on 08/04/2002 6:55:28 AM PDT by Plummz
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To: Travis McGee
Do you think that Saddam has a proven WMD (such as 100s of kilos of anthrax) already in the USA

We know the U.S. resettled thousands of former Iraqi soldiers after Gulf WarI in the U.S. Your question brings to mind the possibility that at least some of the Iraqi soldiers resettled in the U.S may still be loyal to Saddam and will be in a position to harm the U.S. when Gulf War II begins.

43 posted on 08/04/2002 7:54:45 AM PDT by honway
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To: Pokey78
But some European leaders and American politicians have insisted a link to September 11 is needed to justify an attack on Iraq.

Horse puckey! Total strawman argument. Flush Saddass now!

44 posted on 08/04/2002 6:00:58 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: denydenydeny
Nice catch!
45 posted on 08/05/2002 9:18:04 PM PDT by piasa
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