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A doctor doing the job of the media and the government.
I'd be interested to know if there were any media
at the Center for Disease Control’s (CDC) meeting
of the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP).
Pass this around.

1 posted on 08/03/2002 7:46:10 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
I expect yellow fever, 1st, "west Nile virus," 2nd, malaria, 3rd, and smallpox, 4th.
2 posted on 08/03/2002 7:50:33 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: madfly
I'm sorry, but following that advice looks like a good way to get yourself killed. Anyone who seriously argues that a vaccine is more dangerous than the disease is clearly ignorant of the whole theory of vaccination.

The more important thing he forgets, though, is that in a bioterror strike, we most likely wouldn't be dealing with normal smallpox; we'd be dealing with weaponized, engineered smallpox, designed for maximum contagion and lethality. The one good argument he could've made was that our current vaccines may prove too weak to handle such a weaponized variety of the disease.
3 posted on 08/03/2002 7:50:40 AM PDT by Anotherpundit
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To: madfly
"200 years ago," yellow fever was a routine summer happenin' along the eastern seaboard.
4 posted on 08/03/2002 7:51:56 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: madfly
Just wait until Blue Nile virus is dropped. Then things will get interesting.
5 posted on 08/03/2002 7:57:27 AM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: madfly
It was rendering fine on my machine the first time, but I ran your HTML through my browser's validator and I saw some problems with the second TABLE tag, which had a HEIGHT attribute set to XX% which is not valid. I took out the HEIGHT and WIDTH attributes for both TABLE tags since they really don't serve any purpose here.

Let me know if it fixed it. If it didn't, then I don't know what to do. Thanks, AM

7 posted on 08/03/2002 7:59:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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ping
8 posted on 08/03/2002 8:01:16 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Bump for later.
10 posted on 08/03/2002 8:08:50 AM PDT by Springman
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To: madfly
smallpox vaccine...with a dubious track record for success.

It wiped the disease out of natural occurrence in the entire world. Yep, that's a pretty lousy record. (/sarcasm)

11 posted on 08/03/2002 8:08:53 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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13 posted on 08/03/2002 8:14:19 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Smallpox Outbreak: What to Do

I suggest: screaming, running, yelling, panicking, etc.

18 posted on 08/03/2002 8:32:46 AM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: madfly
Seriously though, if you think you've been exposed, report to the biggest hospital in your area, perferably a teaching hospital (because the weird docs who know a lot about this stuff are only found at teaching hospitals). Tell them that you believe you've been exposed. Get quarrantined, get your vaccination, wait your three weeks, and go home. This response is not only the best response for yourself, it also is the more responsible thing to do for society as a whole.
21 posted on 08/03/2002 8:39:11 AM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: madfly; Askel5
I wish also to hear more about just how these presumed vaccines are 'green lighted' for general use. Recall that Lebanese owned Bioport has a huge history of prolems for the military. Also poisons are one of al Qaeda's specialties. A tainted vaccine would make a big mess.

Not panicking. But ...


30 posted on 08/03/2002 9:06:58 AM PDT by flamefront
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To: madfly
http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/Feb_8_02/SmallVaxRisks.htm

Precautions and Contraindications

Before administering vaccinia vaccine, the physician should complete a thorough patient history to document the absence of vaccination contraindications among both vaccinees and their household contacts. Efforts should be made to identify vaccinees and their household contacts who have eczema, a history of eczema, or immunodeficiencies. Vaccinia vaccine should not be administered for routine nonemergency indications if these conditions are present among either recipients or their household contacts.

History or Presence of Eczema or Other Skin Conditions

Because of the increased risk for eczema vaccinatum, vaccinia vaccine should not be administered to persons with eczema of any degree, those with a past history of eczema, those whose household contacts have active eczema, or whose household contacts have a history of eczema. Persons with other acute, chronic, or exfoliative skin conditions (e.g., atopic dermatitis, burns, impetigo, or varicella zoster) might also be at higher risk for eczema vaccinatum and should not be vaccinated until the condition resolves.

Pregnancy

Live-viral vaccines are contraindicated during pregnancy; therefore, vaccinia vaccine should not be administered to pregnant women for routine nonemergency indications. However, vaccinia vaccine is not known to cause congenital malformations (63). Although <50 cases of fetal vaccinia infection have been reported, vaccinia virus has been reported to cause fetal infection on rare occasions, almost always after primary vaccination of the mother (64). Cases have been reported as recently as 1978 (55,65). When fetal vaccinia does occur, it usually results in stillbirth or death of the infant soon after delivery.

Altered Immunocompetence

Replication of vaccinia virus can be enhanced among persons with immunodeficiency diseases and among those with immunosuppression (e.g., as occurs with leukemia, lymphoma, generalized malignancy, solid organ transplantation, cellular or humoral immunity disorders, or therapy with alkylating agents, antimetabolites, radiation, or high-dose corticosteroid therapy [i.e., >2 mg/kg body weight or 20 mg/day of prednisone for >2 weeks] [66]). Persons with immunosuppression also include hematopoietic stem cell transplant recipients who are <24 months posttransplant, and hematopoietic stem cell transplant recipients who are >24 months posttransplant but who have graft-versus-host disease or disease relapse. Persons with such conditions or whose household contacts have such conditions should not be administered vaccinia vaccine.

Persons Infected with HIV

Risk for severe complications after vaccinia vaccination for persons infected with HIV is unknown. One case of severe generalized vaccinia has been reported involving an asymptomatic HIV-infected military recruit after the administration of multiple vaccines that included vaccinia vaccine (58). Additionally, a 1991 report indicated that two HIV-infected persons might have died of a progressive vaccinia-like illness after treatment with inactivated autologous lymphocytes infected with a recombinant HIV-vaccinia virus (67). No evidence exists that smallpox vaccination accelerates the progression of HIV-related disease. However, the degree of immunosuppression that would place an HIV-infected person at greater risk for adverse events is unknown. Because of this uncertainty, until additional information becomes available, not vaccinating persons (under routine nonemergency conditions) who have HIV infection is advisable.

Infants and Children

Before the eradication of smallpox, vaccinia vaccination was administered routinely during childhood. However, smallpox vaccination is no longer indicated for infants or children for routine nonemergency indications.

Persons with Allergies to Vaccine Components

The currently available vaccinia vaccine (i.e., Dryvax) contains trace amounts of polymyxin B sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate. Persons who experience anaphylactic reactions (i.e., hives, swelling of the mouth and throat, difficulty breathing, hypotension, and shock) to any of these antibiotics should not be vaccinated.
[I AM ALLERGIC TO SEVERAL OF THE MENTIONED DRUGS ABOVE, and have had hives and been hospitalized due to them. Plus, my son and I have eczema].
Vaccinia vaccine does not contain penicillin. Future supplies of vaccinia vaccine will be reformulated and might contain other preservatives or stabilizers. Refer to the manufacturer's package insert for additional information

32 posted on 08/03/2002 9:18:19 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: madfly
The article is enlightening but the CDC approach is probably going to be secondary to the FEMA plan: an absolute quarantine of a "diagnosed" patient if a terrorist act is the suspected cause.

Absolute quarantine means physical partitioning and isolation of a sufficient radius around the patient to minimize even casual risk. In plain English if the patient is discovered in Upper Manhattan, a 50 mile radius around the patient will be isolated by civil or military authorities.

In addition the proposed plan calls for a national, involutary curtailment of travel outside the area were you are located (not necessarily your home) at the time the emergency is declared.

So for you folks who plan to "head for the hills" rather than your doctor's office the hills are out if they are not within walking distance.

33 posted on 08/03/2002 9:19:38 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: madfly
Very good article. But then we just can't have the media littered with facts. It might interfere with their agenda.
37 posted on 08/03/2002 9:30:18 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
I'd be interested in your thoughts about this article.
38 posted on 08/03/2002 9:33:05 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: madfly
I was vaccinated when I was young. I assume it is still an active vaccination needing no booster.
51 posted on 08/03/2002 10:27:30 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: madfly
I read this article with intrest & then read all the replys before noticing that the woman who wrote it is a DO not an MD. Does anyone here know what a DO is?
56 posted on 08/03/2002 12:24:50 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: madfly
bump for later reading
64 posted on 08/03/2002 3:00:18 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: madfly; Dark Wing
Those who find a DO's comments on smallpox credible should have one as their primary care physician. Think of it as evolution in action.

Military-grade smallpox is far more contagious and lethal than naturally occuring smallpox. It's like saying nuclear weapons are no threat because you can't make them with unrefined uranium.

67 posted on 08/03/2002 6:01:14 PM PDT by Thud
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