[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

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[StriperSniper]

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[Hoosier-Daddy]

I keep hearing how a woman has a right to decide what to do with her own body, and frankly, I agree. If a woman needs a wart removed, or liposuction, that's fine. But the argument that the fetus is a woman's body is specious: a child is a unique dna combination of the mother and father. It is not, on any level, a part of her body. To the body, the fetus is a foreign invader and only thru some remarkable gyrations of nature is the body able to accept the fetus growing inside. It is a astonishing and beautiful act of creation, not a wart, or mere tissue to be sucked from a woman's body.

[nightdriver]

At least they are refering this kid as a "baby" instead of a "fetus."

When are they going to address the aspect of DNA of the baby being different, thereby proving that it is NOT just more of the body of the woman?

[sixmil]

Finally, some semblance of justice in the world!

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Wow! I'm impressed! I hope this gets widespread coverage.

[SkyPilot]

it's a miscarriage of justice....," said Susan Fritchey, a lawyer with the Women's Law Project and co-counsel for Miss Meyers.

[Mark was here]

Good for him, the baby has the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness....

[MeekOneGOP]

Abortion ruling stirs debate

Woman barred for now from ending pregnancy; ex-beau wants child

08/05/2002

Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA - Abortion rights advocates are urging courts to immediately overturn a judge's unusual decision to temporarily bar a woman from ending her pregnancy.

The order came in a lawsuit filed by a man who is seeking to force former girlfriend Tanya Meyers to carry her pregnancy to term. John Stachokus says he is willing to take full or partial custody of the child and claims in his lawsuit that Ms. Meyers is being pressured by her mother to have the procedure.

Lawyers representing Ms. Meyers called the order "a miscarriage of justice," while abortion opponents and father's rights groups praised it, saying that men should have a say in the outcome of a pregnancy that they helped create.

Luzerne County Common Pleas Court Judge Michael Conahan issued the temporary injunction Wednesday. He did not say when he would issue a final ruling but asked both sides to submit briefs by Monday.

Until then, Ms. Meyers, 23, who is 10 weeks pregnant, has been forbidden from having an abortion.

"There is truly no legal basis for the injunction to be in effect; it's a miscarriage of justice, an abuse of the legal system and an absolute disgrace," said Susan Fritchey, an attorney with the Women's Law Project and co-counsel for Ms. Meyers.

Ms. Fritchey and other women's advocates said the judge's decision runs counter to legal precedents establishing that the decision whether to have an abortion is the woman's choice alone.

Ms. Meyers' lawyers filed an emergency appeal Thursday in state Superior Court in Harrisburg seeking to lift the injunction. That court instead asked Mr. Stachokus' attorney to submit additional legal papers by Tuesday.

Ms. Meyers' lawyers filed a similar petition with the state Supreme Court, which denied the appeal but reserved the right to revisit the issue.

Anti-abortion and fathers-rights groups defended the judge's action.

"We talk about fathers negatively so often, about how they don't want to be responsible for their children, and this guy is doing everything he can to be sure his unborn child isn't aborted," said Dianna Thompson, executive director of the American Coalition for Fathers and Children. "Men's rights are trampled on all the time when it comes to reproductive rights."

Mr. Stachokus' attorney, John P. Williamson, said Ms. Meyers, who has a 2-year-old child, had been coerced into deciding on an abortion by her mother, who disliked Mr. Stachokus.

"They had picked out godparents for the baby, she had picked out names, then there was a sudden turnaround," Mr. Williamson said.

"We want an injunction that says no abortion is allowed and this baby lives," he said.

Neither Ms. Meyers nor Mr. Stachokus returned calls seeking comment.

Ms. Meyers had filed for a protection-from-abuse order from Mr. Stachokus, 27, an emergency dispatcher she met 10 months ago. She said he had threatened and harassed her since their breakup July 22.

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Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/nation/stories/080502dnnatabortion.38f44.html

[Khepera]

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[Audit_Jesse]

"It absolutely stunned me when this happened; it's clearly an error as a matter of law,"

What stuns me is that you and your ilk shout from the rooftops about the woman's right to murder a child. You take it as a matter of fact whereas I take it as a matter of premeditated murder. It's cold and calculated, plain and simple.

"You wonder what judge in this country is unaware that women in this country have the right to choice."

And I wonder what person in this country is unaware that wholesale slaughter of innocents for the sake of convenience is a disgrace to the sanctity of human life. Your fallacious designs on what you term "choice" are as empty as your charges of an alleged "miscarriage" (very telling, that) of justice.

[Aquinasfan]

Great news. I remember an incident at my first job when I was in my early 20s. One of my co-workers who I hardly knew told me that his girlfriend was going to abort their baby. He was pretty shaken up.

I wonder why it has taken so long for a case like this to make headlines?

[glory]

"You wonder what judge in this country is unaware that women in this country have the right to choice>>

And you wonder what woman in this country doesn't understand despite the farce Roe vs Wade, a growing baby is half the fathers and imo a responsible father deserves the same rights to decisions regarding that infant(certainly the same feminists think he has equal responsibility even if he would have chosen an abortion so what gives?). Sadly, this will probably be overturned and she will abort. We need to have recognition of a "fetus" as an INDIVIDUAL in the custody(obviously) and care of the mother during pregnancy before we start to see equal rights for fathers and abortion becomes history. My favorite line in the rhetoric on this issue is "why is it a baby when it's wanted and a fetus(or blob of cells) when it isn't" In fact I've known women who take two different stands in two different instances FOR THEMSELVES. IMO, it's always a baby and fetus is an attempt to emotionally detach from that growing baby. The statistics regarding depression and mental health care following abortion seem to bear out that it doesn't work(detaching) in the long term.

[mindprism.com]

Ok. Lets assume she has the right of choice. She is still liable for a civil suit.

[Sonny M]

Maybe someone here can help me understand this. Its a womans body, if she choses to have an abortion, she can regardless of the fathers opinion, if he wants the child, if he wants to support it, all of this is moot if she wants an abortion, right? but if he wants her to have an abortion and she refuses, he would still have to pay child custody and pay for support, his opinion doesn't matter if she wants an abortion or not, but his wallet is more important if she choses not to? How does the law work here exactley where he has no say in his offspring, his child, but the woman has every right? Bear in Mind that an unborn child (or as child murdererers call them, "fetus") are not KIDNEYS OR LIVERS OR ANY OTHER INTERNAL ORGAN!!!!!

[Red Jones]

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