Posted on 08/05/2002 6:07:40 AM PDT by BlackJack
The trial of a man accused of killing Marike de Klerk, South Africa's former first lady, has begun in Cape Town
Marike de Klerk was killed in her beachfront home
Luyanda Mboniswa, a security guard at Mrs de Klerk's luxury beachfront apartment, had the charge of rape added to that of murder as the trial got underway.
The ex-wife of former President FW de Klerk was discovered dead in her apartment in Tableview, just north of Cape Town, in December last year.
She had been stabbed in the back and strangled in a vicious attack.
Unclear motive
FW de Klerk was in Cape Town High Court as the trial began.
Twenty-one-year-old Luyanda Mboniswa was arrested two days after the killing.
Nothing had been taken from Mrs de Klerk's flat, and the precise motive remains unknown.
There have been allegations that her dance instructor was an accomplice to her murder, but police say he passed lie detector tests and is not a suspect.
Mr de Klerk said he was happy with the way the police have carried out the investigation and would be willing to testify if necessary.
The state has said it will call 92 witnesses in all, and the trial is expected to last at least a month.
She must have been in some other South Africa.
Wait, I know, maybe it’s because from 1948 through 1994, there were 21,000 murders in South Africa. Since Comrades Nelson, Winnie and Mbeki took over in late 1994, there have been 176,000 murders. I guess a brutal murder in South Africa just isn’t news anymore.
Owl_Eagle
”Guns Before Butter.”
I guess it is "some other South Africa" for you if you are a spoiled media star surrounded by people who take care of you and keep the riff-raff from assaulting you.
This happened last December and was not deemed news?
The (ex) first lady of an (ex) major civilized country raped and murdered and it was not deemed news?
Remarkable.
South Africa needs a leader. Someone who could make its black population realize the impression they are sending to the rest of the world. Blacks should have worked hard to make the country better, under their rule, than it was under white. Instead, they give the idea that without whites, keeping them in line, they act worse than animals. They had the perfect opportunity to prove whites were wrong, and they flushed it; just like African Americans did with desegregation.
Last I read, crime in SA was 14 time higher than NY City. But, that was a while ago. (I hear that the gangs have moved back onto the streets of NY)
South Africa has nukes???
- montag813
Huh? South Africa did engineer several nuclear weapons as a 'research' project to show they had the capability ....BUT then they destroyed them and signed themselves into being a non-nuclear state, making them one of the very few nations that has had a nuclear capability but has decided to dismantle the weapons and cease from making more.
Thus i really do not see how a personage like UBL can acquire atomics from a nation that destroyed the nuclear weapons it had.
And since you mentioned something about 'taking all their nukes away' i think the most prudent thing we could do is take away the nukes of Pakistan since Pakistan is an Islamic state with a very volatile political strata (it seems changes in government are through coups and usurpers), a very broad anti-American sentiment among its populace, and ties between governmental agencies like the ISI and terrorist groups like al Queda (according to the British Government Pakistan is the leading terrorist nation in the world). Thus if you advocate neutralizing threats by removing the nukes of 'questionable' nations i think we should start with Pakistan ......unless you are one of those people who staunchly believe the Pakistanis are our 'allies!' (and if you are please explain why it was reported yesterday that some of al Quedas bigger 'luminaries' are bein protected in Pakistan with the knowledge of Islamabad? )
Anyway succinctly put S. Africa destroyed its nukes over a decade ago, willingly actually. Pakistan on the other hand is a huge threat just simmering and waiting.
You decide which is more pressing.
Amen! The South Africa experiment is exhibit A in why we should demand a better/moderate leadership for the Palestinians before giving them a state. South Africa is being flushed down the toilet & taking blacks and whites with it.
So true.
I think we can stop calling it an "idea" and start calling it a "fact".
They don't need a leader. It is not poor leadership that has led them to their current condition, which can only be described as horrendous and deteriorating as quickly as a country can deteriorate.
South Africa needs a new people. It needs a people who can work together. It needs a people who care just a little bit about those outside of their immediate sphere. It needs a people who have some sort of vision for the future, and not merely of the past. It needs a people willing to use the tools at hand, which are not insubstancial, and build with them. It needs a people who have integrity and self-respect, a willingness to be educated and have pride in their country. It needs all the things its current people seem to lack.
Perhaps those living in South Africa could become this new people, but it would require a rebirth of the entire nation for that to happen, and it seems far too intent on death, rather than birth.
Like much of Africa, South Africa seems intent on returning to the state it was in before the Europeans arrived and intervened. If that is the case, if that is what they collectively want, then I think we should be considerate enough to let them go.
Tuor
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