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Good morning!

This will start the thread on the Fires in Oregon.

According to the Oregonian and Oregon live, these fires don't exist, (At least on their web sites).

1 posted on 08/05/2002 7:37:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Granof8; AuntB; Buck; Salvation; wanderin; blackie; dixiechick2000; Species8472; RightWhale; ...
FYI

As usual, news is skimpy. So if you have any up todate personal news or from local sources, please post it.
2 posted on 08/05/2002 7:40:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
According to the eugene register guard, these fires are due to global warming and past logging practices.

The paper has been running their agenda on the frontpage, two days in a row.

3 posted on 08/05/2002 7:41:01 AM PDT by joyce11111
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To: WaterDragon; madfly; brityank; farmfriend; Ernest_at_the_Beach; *Enviralists
Fyi and for your ping list
4 posted on 08/05/2002 7:42:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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For those plagued with the enviralists and not living on the West Coast.
5 posted on 08/05/2002 7:44:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: backhoe
FYI.

Thanks for your pinging
6 posted on 08/05/2002 7:45:07 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
The headline is completely backwards. The cooler weather is helping the firefighters
9 posted on 08/05/2002 7:56:49 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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07:54 AM • Monday, Crescent City Tripicate, August 5, 2002 Crescent City, CA They're winning the fight on the California side, but still struggling in Oregon Firefighters continue to gain control over Del Norte County's Sour-Biscuit and Shelley Creek fires, but fires burning in Oregon are growing. (link)
10 posted on 08/05/2002 8:00:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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ping
14 posted on 08/05/2002 8:12:41 AM PDT by madfly
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To: Grampa Dave
Oh the irony...in their efforts to keep nature pristine the eco-morons declared the forests off limits. The off limits created an abundance of ground fuel which when set off would make for uncontrolable blazes. The blazes being uncontrolable by normal means call for unconventional means. So the firefighters have to resort to BLASTING and Bulldozing the countryside, far more damaging than thinning would ever be. It's thick aint it? (the irony, not the $hit, shich would be termed "deep" )

EBUCK

30 posted on 08/05/2002 9:21:38 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: Grampa Dave
According to the Oregonian and Oregon live, these fires don't exist, (At least on their web sites).

Same with katu.com except for this story:

August 5, 2002

Fire Destroys Log Chipping Plant
Near The Dalles

THE DALLES - Firefighters allowed a fire in a deck of logs and tons of wood chips at a mill here to burn itself out Sunday after a spectacular blaze destroyed most of the complex Saturday night.

Lt. Fred Coleman of Mid-Columbia Fire and Rescue said firemen were patrolling downwind to watch for new fires and to protect what was left of Mountain Fir Chip Co.

"They're letting the logs burn," he said.

The wind carried burning chips and bark some 500 yards across the Columbia River to the unincorporated town of Dallesport, Wash., starting a fire there that grew to 70 acres before it was controlled. There was no structural damage reported.

Damage to Mountain Fir, which employed about 20 people, was estimated at $4 million.

The fire, which started in grass, spread to the logs and the mill and its hoppers. Firemen were able to save other structures at the plant and other businesses in the Port of The Dalles.

Cause of the fire has not been determined.

(Copyright 2002 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

31 posted on 08/05/2002 9:25:35 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: Grampa Dave
Dave, the author is screwed up!

Oregon Fire Fight Hampered by Cooler Weather
KGW TV ^ | 5 August 2002 | GILLIAN FLACCUS

I think Flaccus doesn't like cool weather! Cool weather is an AID to firefighters.

42 posted on 08/05/2002 10:51:44 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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Latest from the Florence web site

What’s New: Construction of the Florence Fire’s southeast flank contingency fire line continued toward the California border last night. Approximately 0.5 mile remains to be built today. No burnouts occurred last night due to emphasis on fire line construction.

Cool temperatures and high humidity today may create unfavorable conditions for burnout operations. Primary and contingency fire line construction will continue, along with mop up and patrolling in areas already blackened by the fire or burnouts.

On Sunday, burnouts along the Florence Fire’s southeast perimeter were successful. Those burnouts took place south of Cave Junction, and west of U.S. Highway 199 and the community of O’Brien.

A meeting with the community of Galice is scheduled for today, at 5:00 p.m., at the Galice Community Center. Members of the Florence Fire Incident Management Team will talk about fire suppression strategies and answer questions.

The Bear Camp Road from Galice to Agness is closed to all users except fire-related traffic and local residents. The roadside will be cleared of brush and prepared for use as a contingency fire line, a measure to check any northward progression of the Florence Fire should it cross the primary control lines. Other roads to Galice and Agness remain open. The hiking trail through the Rogue River Wild and Scenic Area is closed due to extreme fire danger in the area. The Rogue River waterway is open.

Members of the Illinois Valley community have generously offered donations of food and clothing for the firefighters. While appreciated, the firefighters’ needs are met through full-service field kitchens, a laundry facility, a commissary, and other support and supply services. The Florence Fire Incident Management Team recommends that donations of food and clothing be made to the American Red Cross, and that monetary donations be made to the Illinois Valley Fire District. Signs, letters, waves and smiles are always welcome and are greatly appreciated.

Another wave of smoke rolling into the basin - on top of an already thick layer.

56 posted on 08/05/2002 1:02:00 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Grampa Dave
Why does the headline say the efforts of the firefighters are hampered when the body of the piece clearly refutes that?:

The threat to the Illinois Valley has dropped because of progress with burnouts and the cooler weather.

58 posted on 08/05/2002 1:26:56 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Grampa Dave
Oregon Fire Fight Hampered by Cooler Weather

The threat to the Illinois Valley has dropped because of progress with burnouts and the cooler weather

Cooler weather will usually aid fire control, all other things being equal.

74 posted on 08/05/2002 4:31:16 PM PDT by RightWhale
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