Agness, Oregon Residents receive fire evacuation warning

Oregon Live/ AP ^ | JEFF BARNARD | JEFF BARNARD

[Grampa Dave]

Hey, Ebuck, fire is natural and part of nature as per the AL QAEDA TREE NAZIS's propaganda.

Strange that no Alaska Freepers have posted or commented on the fires in Alaska.

Fires up there take about 50+ years for the forests to recover (some times never) due to the very short growing seasons.

[Grampa Dave]

Thank you.

Maybe you can post about the out of control fire by San Diego.

[cake_crumb]

Darn...I thought they were making more progress than that!!

Oh, I caught the new greenie agenda for management...it's the old agenda : "thinning, cutting dead/diseased trees = BAD; burning = GOOD"

We've still got a long way to go.

[Salvation]

From yesterday on KATU

August 6, 2002

Officials lift evacuation notice for residents of Westfir

HEMLOCK - Oregon's newest wildfire, the Hemlock fire southeast of Eugene, has grown to about 40 acres.

But Carol Tocco of the Northwest Interagency Coordination Center says the Hemlock Fire is no longer threatening homes in Westfir, near Oakridge.

Yesterday, Lane County Sheriff's Department and Oregon State Police had gone door-to-door notifying residents in the area that they may need to evacuate their homes, depending on wildfire behavior in the area.

Two hundred people were working on the fire overnight.

About 3,500 people live in the community of Hemlock and the town of Westfir.

(Copyright 2002 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

[Salvation]

fom kgw.com

Calif. Wildfire Forces Evacuations

08/07/2002

Associated Press

JULIAN, Calif. -- Dozens of residents were evacuated because of a 47,000-acre wildfire that had jumped a containment line in the mountains east of San Diego.

The town of Warner Springs, population 1,200, was partly evacuated and 70 people were told to leave the Los Coyotes Indian Reservation. In Borrego Springs, elderly residents who might suffer from smoky air were urged to leave.

Firefighters retreat from flames as a wildfire edges closer to homes in Ranchita, Calif., a community in the northeastern part of San Diego County. (AP Photo)

The blaze had been about 80 percent contained before it crossed the fire line on Monday, but afterward it was only 48 percent contained. Full containment was expected by Sunday evening, officials said.

The blaze started July 29 when a National Guard helicopter clipped a power line during a search for marijuana plants in the rugged, isolated area. The fire has destroyed 19 homes.

Elsewhere, drier weather and shifting wind heightened concern that two wildfires could threaten 220 homes along the Rogue River in southwestern Oregon. One of the fires was only 10 percent contained and the other was 15 percent contained. Firefighters and Curry County sheriff's deputies went door-to-door advising people to be ready to leave.

"If we come talk to you a second time, it's time to go," said fire spokeswoman Susan Mathison. "We don't want you to decide then what to take. We'd like you to be doing that now."

The fires have burned across 284,000 acres combined in southwestern Oregon and northeastern California. On its eastern side, the threat had diminished enough that evacuation warnings were eased for 17,000 residents of the Illinois River valley.

(Copyright 2002 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

[Salvation]

This would be great on the "Below the Fold" portion of Special Report with Brit Hume.

[Salvation]

Let's try that again!

The news black out on this has been amazing. 1,360,000 acres is 2125 square miles.

This would be great on the "Below the Fold" portion of Special Report with Brit Hume.

[cake_crumb]

It takes 50+ years for any forest to recover...and about 200 years for the average forest to recover from hot, devestating environazi-legislated fires like the ones in Oregon.

[Jackie222]

BTTT

[EBUCK]

Wonder how long it's gonna take the envirals to recover....wink, wink, nod, nod

EBUCK

[Grampa Dave]

Recovery in the moist and moderate climate of the Coastal Zones in Oregon and Kali is fairly fast. The trees can grow basically all year. However, as grand parents, we will not see the recovery. Our grand kids will have to wait to see it.

The growing season in Alaska is so short, that these fires's long term effects will be seen at least 50 years from now and maybe 100 years.

The fires in the Oregon high desert area North from Klamath Falls to the Columbia River will take a very long time to recover. The cold and long winters, the lack of water as compared to the Coastal region, and the desert soil don't lend themselves to rapid recovery.

[EBUCK]

I'm not sure that they have the same regulations up there that we do. I'll have to get some more info before blaming the envirals for it.

I imagine that there is just so much open space up there that fighting fire only starts when it starts threatening populations...They are so far from support that it'd be impossible to fight effectively. Just a guess.

EBUCK

[Grampa Dave]

I had not even heard about the Hemlock fire.

Thanks for posting your data on it.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks.

The fires in Southern California are really scary when they go ballistic.

The trees are growing in a semi desert area and don't have the overall moisture content to protect them from total blaze when subjected to fire. A square mile or 640 acres can burst in total flames in minutes.

[EBUCK]

The big Alaska PING!!!!! What's going on up yonder folks?

[Grampa Dave]

Maybe they are out salmon fishing or halibut fishing?

[cake_crumb]

"Wonder how long it's gonna take the envirals to recover....wink, wink, nod, nod"

You'd be surprised. They're just taking the same old spiel and repackaging it.

This is a long, rambling read, so here's the link

[Grampa Dave]

This is the latest from the Eureka Times Standard:

Article Last Updated:
Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 7:10:27 AM MST


Gasquet residents on one-hour notice to flee fire

The Eureka Times-Standard

GASQUET -- Residents of this town were told Monday night to be ready to leave their homes within an hour, as winds expected Wednesday could blow the fire into town.

Firefighting crews camped out near the Sour Biscuit Fire's southern edge, about 4 miles north of Gasquet, have made a lot of progress building fire line overnight, said U.S. Forest Service information officer Terry Knupp.

"They're pleased with how that's going," Knupp said.

Still, Knupp said it is difficult to predict the rate of spread of the fire under the right wind conditions.

About 1,500 people live in Gasquet.

[cake_crumb]

In Alaska and the dryer areas of Oregon, I'd expect it to take more like 200 years. Many expect Yellowstone to take around 150. That's the problem...it takes soooooo long to recover from this.

We have a small - 100 acre; more like a bonfire right now - fire in the Leheigh Valley of PA. I don't know how much influence the environazis have had there in the past couple of decades, but it wasn't looking good when I moved. Actually, I don't even know if the fire is on state land.

NY is aggressively thinning state forests right now, and they want it done yesterday. Hubby's doing one for the Parks Department right now.

Education is the only answer to morons who sit in cities, making judgements based on the fantasies and fallacies of others instead of getting out there in the field and interacting