Posted on 08/08/2002 1:04:36 PM PDT by tpaine
You've never asked me outright. But if you had half a brain, you'd know it was "Life, Liberty, and Property". (see post 100)
-- I stand by our U.S. Constitutions Bill of Rights. You deny its supremacy, and are proud to admit it.
That is such a lie, too.
You can not possibly stand by the Constitution, if you violate property.
"... nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation" - 5th Amendment.
The things you have said indicate to me, that you don't really believe in this human right.
I've said countless times that the Supremacy Clause makes the Constitution (vs. say you, or the Federal Govt.) Supreme.
I could have sworn that the 10th Amendment protections of States was actually located inside of the document known as the "Constitution", which is supreme. In other words, States Rights that are not delegated to the Federal Government, have supreme protection!
You deny that states are forbidden to violate the rights of life, liberty, and property by the 14th amendment.
The 5th forbade such violations long before the 14th came along, if the the Supremeacy Clause had been literally interpreted. The Supremeacy Clause incorporates the 5th Amendment into all State Constitutions - the 14th is superfluous, when it comes to prohibiting States from violating life, liberty and property without due process of law.
You're just in love with the 14th Amendment, along with the ACLU, and radical egalitarians who think that only the central government can determine what's "equal protection". It's a wonder today that separate bathrooms at State rest stops are still legal.
Radicals = the Problem.
Your radical views on on liberty, violate property.
I pander to authority?!??? That's a laugh.
You're afraid of this article,
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38ae1fc86628.htm
which exposes the truth about how we got to where we are in today's society. No wonder everyone's so confused. There's no consent of the governed behind many of our laws -like every court case that was based on the 14th Amendment - Brown vs Board of Education, Busing, Title IX that is destroying mens' sports, affirmative action laws, - it all has a faulty basis.
I crave the freedom FROM the all-powerful Government that the original Constitution, unperverted by the RADICAL republicans' 14th Amendment, provides!
My are you ever confused.
Then you must despise violations of Article V - like are described here:
It's [the 14th] a great amendment, and could be acknowledged as the greatest if, -- as I suspect,
But Congress violated the Constitution's Article V, in order to shove the 14th Amendment into the Constitution. You can't say that the Central Government MUST obey the Constitution, AND think that the 14th Amendment is "great". Unless of course, you're a hypocrit.
I just love this article:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38ae1fc86628.htm
I knew of a couple of druggies who lived very simpleton lives, no car, no insurance, no credit, no voting record, etc. They also actively engaged in distorting the truth.
One drug abused himself to death, the other one still doesn't have a clue, but still rants about his 'rights' are being violated.
It sure doesn't look that way to me. It looks like I made a lot of good points that were agreed with, and never refuted.
That article is more important than what I said about the 14th, though.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38ae1fc86628.htm
"...We return to 1865. As the legally reconstituted Southern states were busy ratifying the anti-slavery Thirteenth Amendment, the Republican-dominated Congress refused to seat Southern representatives and Senators. This allowed the remaining, rump Congress to propose the Fourteenth Amendment, consistent with Article V's requirement of a 2/3 majority for sending a proposed amendment to the states. Never mind that Congress also clearly violated that Article's provision that "no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate."
The only thing being destroyed, is your argument against me, and the Constitution's Article V by the RADICAL republicans.
Though the Northern states ratified the Fourteenth Amendment, it was decisively rejected by the Southern and border states, failing to secure the 3/4 of the states necessary for ratification under Article V. The Radical Republicans responded with the Reconstruction Act of 1867, which virtually expelled the Southern states from the Union and placed them under martial law...."
and all this was well after Lee's surrender. There was no "rebellion" or Constitutional excuse for this tyranny.
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