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Bloomberg Seeks to Ban Smoking in Every Restaurant and Bar/Power Hungry or Hungry for Control?
The New York Times ^ | 9 August 2002 | JENNIFER STEINHAUER

Posted on 08/09/2002 6:06:45 AM PDT by SheLion

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"The role of government is not to create wealth. The role of government is to create an environment in which the entrepreneur or small business or dreamer can flourish. And that starts with rule of law, respect of private property, less regulatory burdens on the entrepreneur, open banking laws so that all people have access to capital, and good tax policy."

President George W. Bush St. Petersburg University, St. Petersburg, Russia May 25, 2002

1 posted on 08/09/2002 6:06:45 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; red-dawg; RikaStrom; ...
More erosion of rights! Even our President does not want to "hurt the small business person." So why is Bloomberg going against our President?
2 posted on 08/09/2002 6:08:41 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Already posted here, SL.

I pinged you and the puff list...

3 posted on 08/09/2002 6:16:04 AM PDT by metesky
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To: metesky
I pinged you and the puff list...

Sorry, metesky. Only on my first cup of coffee. ~sigh....

4 posted on 08/09/2002 6:19:06 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Does anyone else see the parallel between anti-smoking laws, gun control and SUV's????? It's not about smoking, it's not about guns, it's not about SUV's.......it's about CONTROL.

Smokers have been demonized, same as gun-owners, that if you light up you are posing a risk to others, in the 'privacy' of your own home and possibly (oh my God) the cause of cancer in your cat. If you are a smoker, you are a killer of babies, a contributor to the hole in the ozone, and just a bad person.

Sound familiar?

SUV's, guns, smoking are all being given the .....'bad for your health' moniker by those who want to control what you do, what you drive, and what to own. Soon they will try to control what you see (they do much of that now), what you hear, and who you hear it from.

The next 'revolution' will be one of the mind.

5 posted on 08/09/2002 6:19:48 AM PDT by Pistolshot
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To: SheLion
The tobacco-nazi's tried this in Mesa,Az. Restaurants and bars started to tank at amazing rate ,to the point of taxes declining....guess what happened?...they started making exemptions,this was in '98. I haven't been back and I don't know what has happened since.
6 posted on 08/09/2002 6:21:47 AM PDT by sidegunner
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The next 'revolution' will be one of the mind.

I fear you are right!


7 posted on 08/09/2002 6:29:12 AM PDT by SheLion
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Under RINO Bloomberg cigarettes will be gone ... and graffiti is coming back. Results typical of lefty, PC politicians' priorities.
8 posted on 08/09/2002 6:30:32 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; red-dawg; RikaStrom; ...
MSNBC wants to hear our opinions about Bloombergs anti smoking deal. We should all send email telling them just what we think!

You can email MSNBC at:

question@msnbc.com

9 posted on 08/09/2002 6:32:09 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Blomberg is just another Democrat who called himself a Republican in order to run for higher office. Sean Hannity exposed this phoney during the campaign.

Creatures like this are endemic to northeastern Republican politics, e.g. Chrissie Whitman, Tom Kean, Nelson Rockefeller, Jacob Javits, Tom Ridge, "Donny" DiFrancesco, etc.

10 posted on 08/09/2002 6:32:49 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: SheLion
Time for NYer bars to exerce their second amendment rights.
11 posted on 08/09/2002 6:35:50 AM PDT by lavaroise
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Time for NYer bars to exerce their second amendment rights.

I sure wish they would do SOMETHING!

12 posted on 08/09/2002 6:46:29 AM PDT by SheLion
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What I wonder about is why they must have an all or nothing policy. Why can't 10 percent of all restaurants and bars have a special license to allow smoking? Each place could be clearly posted and if someone doesn't like to be in a place where smoking is allowed they have a whole lot MORE to chose from.
13 posted on 08/09/2002 7:08:25 AM PDT by Enterprise
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That's what we ALL are wondering! But the anti smoking health coalitions aren't going to stop until they completely ban smoking EVERYWHERE or else not until their honey pot from the tobacco settlement money runs dry.

I just wish these coalitions would be demolished! They are ruining people's lives, turning non smokers against smokers, closing down business's all under the guise of "it's for the kids," just like Hilter Screamed!

Well, no one takes a kid into a bar/restaurant. I know "I" sure wouldn't want to be around a bunch of screaming kids in a bar/restaurant. Take them to McDonalds! heh!

And this second hand smoke scam is just that: a scam. The Federal Court shot down the EPA's second hand smoke scam, yet the anti's are shoving THAT under the RUG! I wish more people were aware of that report! Might wake up a lot of people to what the government is doing to us:

Federal Court Rules Against EPA on Secondhand Smoke

14 posted on 08/09/2002 7:20:47 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: ZULU
Blomberg is just another Democrat who called himself a Republican in order to run for higher office. Sean Hannity exposed this phoney during the campaign

That's right but it wasn't exactly a secret i.e. there was nothing to "expose" - everyone knew and Bloomie didn't try to hide it.

15 posted on 08/09/2002 7:24:26 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Enterprise
Why can't Bloomberg mind his own busines?! Sheesh!! Doesn't seem like this will fly, but really!

And after all these ads promoting NY tourism...what's next, then? Hotels? Apartments? My house?!

16 posted on 08/09/2002 7:25:12 AM PDT by 88keys
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oops...that's "business...(which there won't be any of, if Bloomberg persists and gets his way!)
17 posted on 08/09/2002 7:27:07 AM PDT by 88keys
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although the New York State Restaurant Association recently reversed its longstanding opposition to the proposed state law after a survey showed that 76 percent of its 7,000 members favored the law.

I thought so. I bet most restaurants want to ban smoking because of cost considerations in providing staffing etc for separate sections. A ban lowers costs while not affecting revenues.

18 posted on 08/09/2002 7:37:09 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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...what's next, then? Hotels? Apartments? My house?!

Oh yes! That's next. That's why we have to wake up and take back our freedom. This is getting WAY out of hand!

19 posted on 08/09/2002 7:49:36 AM PDT by SheLion
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oops...that's "business...(which there won't be any of, if Bloomberg persists and gets his way!)

Yep!


20 posted on 08/09/2002 8:27:54 AM PDT by SheLion
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