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Saudi Arabia Is Worse Than You Think
Front Page Magazine ^ | August 9, 2K2 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 08/09/2002 6:24:29 AM PDT by rdb3

Saudi Arabia Is Worse Than You Think
By Deroy Murdock
FrontPageMagazine.com | August 9, 2002


NEW YORK - The Bush Administration once again heard the cold, hard facts about Saudi Arabia's growing threat. And once again, they covered their ears.

"Saudi Arabia supports our enemies and attacks our allies," Rand Corporation analyst Laurent Murawiec told the Defense Policy Board last July 10. "The Saudis are active at every level of the terror chain, from planners to financiers, from cadre to foot-soldier, from ideologist to cheerleader," he said to this advisory panel of former elected officials and security experts.

Senior administration officials would have none of this. When the Washington Post revealed this briefing on August 6, Secretary of State Colin Powell called Saudi foreign minister Prince Saud Faisal to promise that it did not reflect U.S. policy. "The Saudis cooperate fully in the global war on terrorism," Pentagon spokesman Victoria Clarke added.

True, but on which side?

Saudi Arabia routinely antagonizes Americans and Israelis. Behold a small sample of its latest misdeeds:

As the Administration considers invading Iraq, it also should pursue regime change in Saudi Arabia. Saddam Hussein is essentially a better-armed Ferdinand Marcos. He is an egomaniac who craves power and crushes opponents. Hussein, a secular Muslim, professes no concrete ideology beyond his own cult of personality. Yes, he has treated his Kurdish minority to poison gas and likely is building chemical, biological and even atomic weapons of mass murder. Still, Hussein seems more of a regional headache than a worldwide menace.

The House of Saud apparently lacks such a weapons program, but it adheres to a globally-ambitious, religious-based ideology. Saudi Arabia aims to hijack Islam everywhere - from Medina to Manila to Manhattan's Islamic Cultural Center on East 96th Street - and infect it with that religion's virulent Wahhabi strain. The goal? An energized, anti-Semitic, anti-Western, anti-American faith. Through the charities, religious schools and mosques they finance, Saudi Arabia would employ Wahhabism to build a bridge to the Eighth Century.

America should confront the Saudi dictatorship. For starters, President Bush and Secretary Powell should stop glad-handing Saudi officials. Statecraft may require them to work with Riyadh, but there is no need for Crown Prince Abdullah to hobnob at Bush's Texas ranch.

Abundant global oil supplies also would diminish Saudi Arabia's relevance. Thus, Washington should help Russia and West African nations boost their petroleum production. Africa needs the money, and a prosperous, Westward-looking Russia would be unlikely to re-aim its ballistic missiles at America.

Topple Saddam Hussein, if we must. But Rand's scholar is right. Team Bush should stop pretending that Saudi Arabia is Holland with sand dunes.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: financingterrorism; saudiarabia; terrorism

1 posted on 08/09/2002 6:24:29 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
But Islam is religion of peace!
2 posted on 08/09/2002 6:37:14 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: rdb3
"Westward-looking Russia would be unlikely to re-aim its ballistic missiles at America. "

True. There's not much sense in killing your biggest customer.

3 posted on 08/09/2002 6:37:57 AM PDT by capt. norm
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To: capt. norm
The ignorants who are advising the president to invade Iraq with 200,000 soldiers at a cost of 80 billion dollars are simply FOOLS. That is the problem with the neocons. First they don't really understand the big picture, second they don't care how much money we waste, because at their roots they are TAX AND SPEND liberals! If the entire Moslem world, more than one billion people going to be pissed at us, and the entire European continent going to be pissed at us, including 91% of England. In addition the rest of the world, Asia, and Africa are all against us invading Iraq. Then, the neocons goes:"I don't care about pissing off every human being on this planet"? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? If Bush chooses to ignore the whole world, and also to ignore the real enemies, the terrorists, this will come back to haunt him.

The US economic condition is deteriorating rapidly because of lack of faith in the irresponsible corporate leaders, now we should add to it irresponsible political leaders! If the war drums are beaten for Iran, and Saudi Arabia, I would be the first to cheer on, Iran, and Saudi Arabia are the world largest contributer financially and idealogically to the hate/militantan campaign against Christians and Jews. We have finite resources, and many enemies. A dictator like Saddam is not our priority at this time. Let us focus on El Qaeida, Hamas, Moslem Brotherhood, Jamaa Islamia, Jishi Mohamad of Pakistan,.......too many radical nut cases all over the world! Do not take your eye off the ball. The problem is Islam! The Bush administration have been doing a great job so far focusing on the terrorists. Let us not distract them from their mission, which is not depose a dictator! Even the UN inspector Mr. Ritter said that Saddam has been defanged, and no longer a danger. The real danger are the mosques that spewing venomous Islamic preaching without control in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia, Sudan, London, Chicago, Atlanta,…..

We should ally ourselves with non ideological regimes like Syria/Iraq/Egypt/Lebanon/Jordon to invade both Saudi Arabia, and Iran to change their governments to a non-fanatic representative governments. That would get the support of the Europeans, the American people and most of the world. Granted that Mr. Kristol, and Mr. Pearl would not be happy, but who cares.

4 posted on 08/09/2002 7:01:56 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
But Islam is a Great Religion, a Religion of Peace.
5 posted on 08/09/2002 8:05:55 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
I think we are beginning to lose thee focus. Islamic terrorism is our and the whole world problem. That comes from backward counties with money to teach venomous/militant Islam. These countries are headed by Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan, Lybia, Sudan, Indonesia,...

WE must make every effort to change the venomous preaching in the mosques. These governments employ these clerics, and can control their speeches the same way they control other speeches! If our leaders are too timid to demand changes in clerics preaching, then we need different leaders!

6 posted on 08/09/2002 8:15:49 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
"WE must make every effort to change the venomous preaching in the mosques. These governments employ these clerics, and can control their speeches the same way they control other speeches! If our leaders are too timid to demand changes in clerics preaching, then we need different leaders!

In other words, let us not encourage them to establish "Freedom of Speech," but institute a a better system of propaganda (one more in tune to our world objectives... like not letting our citizens get blown up by these fanatics).

Additionally, we can just forget about the notion of "State-sponsored Terrorism" and just concentrate on the actual terrorists themselves ...(Forget about Hitler! It's the individual Nazi that's our main problem!)

I respectfully suggest the time for dialog is over... sometimes we just have to act in a way that gets peoples attention.

7 posted on 08/09/2002 8:31:06 AM PDT by grumpster-dumpster
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To: grumpster-dumpster
We are not talking about dialogue, we are simply saying the reason for the problem is militant Islam. That comes from hate preaching, and funding of Islamic radicalism. If you do not understand that simple fact, then you can be killing and bombing individuals forever. Just look at Israel, every day some idiot blows himself up. Israel goes and destroys his parents house, and so on. Israel should deal with the root-cause, and so are we. Radical Islam is the reason. The US helped establish radical Islam during the CIA push into Afghanistan, and Bosnia. Also Israel helped start radical Islam in Hamas to counter balance Arafat. Now that both Israel and the US learned not to mess with faith as a source for militant movements, let us simply try to fix those stupid mistakes.
8 posted on 08/09/2002 8:48:22 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
"The US helped establish radical Islam during the CIA push into Afghanistan, and Bosnia. Also Israel helped start radical Islam in Hamas to counter balance Arafat. Now that both Israel and the US learned not to mess with faith as a source for militant movements, let us simply try to fix those stupid mistakes."

I'm so glad the U.S.A. established the concept of "jihadd" ...here I was thinking it was an Islamic invention.

I agree radical Islam is the problem. But it's been a problem since the Crusades of the middle-ages. The solution is to contain the threat.

We disagree on the course of action. I simply do not believe that replacing one propaganda system with another is a viable solution.

Chrisitanity is superior to Islam for many reasons, aside from the completeness of it's truths. One reason is that throughout the history of Christianity there has been an active dialog and sincere questioning of what is true and what is not. Islam has no such history. There is no serious debate about what is truthful and what is not. Clerics (imperfect men) determine what the populace will believe. Independent thought regarding a persons relationship to his Almighty Creator is forbidden. Good intentions will not change that.

Only through a comitted and just use of reasonable force can we hope to open-up Islam to the idea that we can become closer to God by questioning those dictates that keep us in servitude to a corrupt philosophy.

Let me put it this way: I am closer to the Holy Trinity today, because of the efforts of some great thinkers who dared to question the written word... and in so doing discovered undenialble truths. (I'm thinking of the "Great-Debates" of past ages where clerics gathered to examine the teachings of Scripture).

No, the secret to distroying Islam is to expose it to the Lamp of God and allow free-thinking men (and women) the chance to fully examine it's total decay. We only have the option of using tools that are effective to get their attention.

P.S. The bet explanation can be found in the words to "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" ...(which I can't seem to stop humming). LOL!

9 posted on 08/09/2002 9:19:26 AM PDT by grumpster-dumpster
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To: capt. norm
True. There's not much sense in killing your biggest customer.

Unless you're Islamic. Saudi Arabia seems to have no problem funding attacks against their biggest customer.

10 posted on 08/09/2002 9:29:52 AM PDT by SunStar
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To: philosofy123
Yes it makes sense.

I don't care how many of them there are, Abdul.

Cockroaches are even more numerous (for the moment).
Doesn't stop me from eradicating them.
Yes, it makes total sense.

11 posted on 08/09/2002 9:49:03 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: philosofy123
"Israel should deal with the root-cause, and so are we. Radical Islam is the reason. The US helped establish radical Islam during the CIA push into Afghanistan, and Bosnia. Also Israel helped start radical Islam in Hamas to counter balance Arafat. Now that both Israel and the US learned not to mess with faith as a source for militant movements, let us simply try to fix those stupid mistakes"

Please calm yourself. There was no CIA or United States, and Israel had not yet been reborn when radical Islam was "invented." A guy named Muhammad did that in 670 AD, when he invented Islam itself.

If you are referring to the Wahhbists of Saud...again, there was no CIA, and Israel had not been reborn at the time Wahabbism was invented, though there WAS a United States. Wahhabism became popular in the late noneteenth century, and it is responsible for the bloody coup - caused by Islamic extremists, NOT the CIA or Israel - which gave rise to the House of Saud.

12 posted on 08/09/2002 10:27:05 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: rdb3
If we let it be known we have a few nukes aimed at Mecca, and we would use them unless all of the hate speeches, propaganda, murder and mayhem are stopped RIGHT NOW....what do you think the reaction would be?

I know when they start their anti American tirades and accuse the US of having taken over "the world" and I say "REALLY?? When did we nuke Mecca? When did we divebomb planes into Mosques? Why haven't I heard this?" they get hysterical. "You can't do that!", "You spout American imperialist lies!" and other such gibbering stupidity.

And I get THAT reaction from making a sarcastic remark!! They are PETRIFIED at the prospect, because they know we can!

13 posted on 08/09/2002 10:44:25 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: grumpster-dumpster
I like a religious man with a sense of humour.
14 posted on 08/09/2002 11:18:42 AM PDT by Sloopy
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To: Sloopy
Thank you Sloopy. Here's wishing you the very best!
-grump
15 posted on 08/09/2002 11:22:50 AM PDT by grumpster-dumpster
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