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40 Reasons To Support Gun Control
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Posted on 08/09/2002 4:11:39 PM PDT by Leisler

- 40 Reasons To Support Gun Control 40 Reasons to Support Gun Control

(Also known as the proof positive that Liberals are not just stupid, but insane.)

1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, and Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC’s low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis’ high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994, are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense — give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns and Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for spinal paralysis, a computer programmer for Y2K problems, and Sarah Brady [or Sheena Duncan, Adele Kirsten, Peter Storey, etc.] for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created by an act of Congress in 1917.

13. The National Guard, funded by the federal government, occupying property leased to the federal government, using weapons owned by the federal government, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a state militia.

14. These phrases," right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumeration's herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people," all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state.

15. We don't need guns against an oppressive government, because the Constitution has internal safeguards, but we should ban and seize all guns, thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense, which is why the army has millions of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they serve no military purpose, and private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles," because they are military weapons.

18. The ready availability of guns today, with waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, et cetera, is responsible for recent school shootings,compared to the lack of school shootings in the 40's, 50's and 60's, which resulted from the availability of guns at hardware stores, surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, mail order, et cetera

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, and the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. A self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."

27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. The right of online pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self-defense only justifies bare hands.

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

31. Charlton Heston as president of the NRA is a shill who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

34. Police officers, who qualify with their duty weapons once or twice a year, have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self-protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people, which is why the police need them but "civilians" do not.

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

40. When Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands," they don't mean you. Really.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns

1 posted on 08/09/2002 4:11:39 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: Leisler
bttt
2 posted on 08/09/2002 4:17:37 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: *bang_list
Opps, addressed the last one wrong.
3 posted on 08/09/2002 4:18:24 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
This is a GREAT article! I'm sending it to a couple of my Liberal "experts" on Gun Control!

WHEN ONLY THE GOVERNMENT HAS GUNS

When the Liberals put these signs on their SUV's and Front Yard, I know they actually believe their blatant hypocrisy.

TRUE LIBERAL THINKING

4 posted on 08/09/2002 4:30:39 PM PDT by stlrocket
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To: stlrocket
Gun control?

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks."

-- Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors.

6 posted on 08/09/2002 4:42:24 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: skull stomper
BTW, I promised someone I'd post links for him on these threads. When I remember who, I'll give him credit.

KeepAndBearArms.com Member/Donor Page

NRA Membership and Donations

Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Inc Membership

7 posted on 08/09/2002 4:43:34 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: Leisler
4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994, are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.

Also - states and communities passing "shall issue" Concealed Carry laws enabling more law-abiding citizens to defend themselves.

8 posted on 08/09/2002 4:43:39 PM PDT by TheBattman
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To: AnnaZ; HangFire; Lady Jenn; Kithlyara; AZ Spartacus; feinswinesuksass; abigail2; AnneJustice4all; ..
Belles bump
9 posted on 08/09/2002 4:59:59 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: skull stomper
Well there is also grazing fire, or suppresion fire....while your friends take careful aim..... :)
10 posted on 08/09/2002 6:18:35 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: lowbridge
Bump
11 posted on 08/09/2002 6:48:34 PM PDT by facedown
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To: Leisler
Are we referring to "Straw Purchase" Sarah Brady? The one who bought a rifle for her son but registered it in her name? THAT Sarah Brady?

Of course, after Bob Barr shot a glass door the other night with a flagrant case of Unintentional Discharge, all you can do is, ah, well, duhhhh.
12 posted on 08/09/2002 7:23:20 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: Leisler
Are we referring to "Straw Purchase" Sarah Brady? The one who bought a rifle for her son but registered it in her name? THAT Sarah Brady?

Of course, after Bob Barr shot a glass door the other night with a flagrant case of Unintentional Discharge, all you can do is, ah, well, duhhhh.
13 posted on 08/09/2002 7:23:22 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: ninenot
One and the same.
14 posted on 08/09/2002 7:24:39 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: stlrocket
BUMP!
15 posted on 08/09/2002 7:38:47 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: Leisler
Very clever post. Thanks for posting it.
16 posted on 08/09/2002 8:10:27 PM PDT by PayrollOffice
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To: Leisler
For a more extensive list check out this one It's Amazing What One has to Believe to Believe in Gun Control - Newly Updated
17 posted on 08/09/2002 8:50:48 PM PDT by TooBusy
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To: Joe Brower; Squantos; harpseal; pocat; wardaddy; PatrioticAmerican; maica; Freee-dame; archy; ...
BANG!

BOOKMARK!

18 posted on 08/10/2002 12:22:50 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Leisler; Travis McGee
17. Private citizens shouldn't have handgunsAND shotguns with barrels under 18 inches, because they serve no military purpose, and private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles," because they are military weapons.

US vs. Miller - 1939. Had this terrible ruling never happened, Randy Weaver's wife and son would still be alive.

41. The 1st ammendment "right of the press" applies to ALL modern electronic media - not just the manually operated printing presses of the 18th century. The "arms" mentioned in the 2nd ammendment applies only to 18th century smoothbore muskets, not modern "automatic killing machines", because the founders never envisioned such a terrible weapon in the hands of civillians.

19 posted on 08/10/2002 5:50:20 AM PDT by pocat
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To: Leisler
10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns and Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

My favorite. As a doctor the NEJM anti-gun crusade makes me question everything else I read there.

20 posted on 08/10/2002 5:56:22 AM PDT by jalisco555
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To: pocat
Did any of the justices desent on that ruling? I'd like to read it. Anyways, in was 1939. What would you expect. FDR had already tried to take over the court and thus grab two of the three legs of power. Alger Hiss, one worlders, commmies, leftists, vegitarianism, etc.... All the usuall suspects.
21 posted on 08/10/2002 6:20:01 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: jalisco555
For the most part modern medicine has cured most common diseases. As you know, what goes on now is either self-inflicted or a function of getting old and approaching death. (As an aside I had close family member of advanced age die of brain cancer, and yet really, right up to the last couple of days, modern medicine managed it stunningly well.) So, anyways, as medicine has become more government run, paid and controlled it isn't surprising that it would parrot the piper. Furthermore there is a hubris that thinks public heath types can succeed where straightforward legislation and law enforcement failed. For example the War On Drugs seems to be moving to be dumped into the medical profession for them to solve (although they dealt with it first, albeit primitively and with out anymore success then anyone else) now it is guns. Lastly, due to physicians long and hard technical training, it isn’t surprising that they, as a group, would be ignorant the political philosophies the formed the foundations of our liberties. Have a nice weekend.
22 posted on 08/10/2002 6:35:55 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Travis McGee
"34. Police officers, who qualify with their duty weapons once or twice a year, have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain."

That one is my favorites, as many, many people, who are not cops, have expert firearms training and experience.

23 posted on 08/10/2002 7:50:48 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Leisler
"24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows. "

The only violence I have seen at a gun show was here in Denver at the Crossroads show when a liberal nutcase started knocking tables over and violently thrashing about and yelling. He was promptly arrested and lead away to his rubber room.

24 posted on 08/10/2002 7:55:32 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: PatrioticAmerican
More civilians than there are cops by a long shot.
25 posted on 08/10/2002 8:06:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
BumpMark!
26 posted on 08/10/2002 8:37:04 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Leisler
Did any of the justices desent on that ruling?

That I don't know, but no one was present to argue for Miller which is why the court said "in the absence of any evidence" they could not conclude that a sawed off shotgun had any military use.

27 posted on 08/10/2002 8:42:37 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: PatrioticAmerican
"He was promptly arrested and lead away to his rubber room.."

More likely back to his taxpayer supported job at some public university.

28 posted on 08/10/2002 9:37:57 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: PatrioticAmerican
I used to have a 4" Colt Python with standard iron sights. One of the drills I used to do was to see how far back I could go and still hit a half torso. It must of been near a hundred yards. The front sight was way fatter then the ever and ever smaller torso. Furthermore I had to aim above the head because of the drop. So the drill became aim at torso, then raise above the no longer visible target. I'd do all that sniper stuff of deep breathing, slow exhale, zen like squeeze. It was fun. Now if I had a 6" barrel...... :)
29 posted on 08/10/2002 9:43:28 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Leisler
Excellent list! Several great ones in there I had not seen/heard before.
30 posted on 08/10/2002 9:45:48 AM PDT by SW6906
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To: Leisler
Actually, the ruling was issued 'by default,' because the defendant had escaped custody (or died, or whatever.)

THEREFORE, nobody was around to state that sawed-off shotguns were military-use weapons.

More to the point, the ruling was in line with the Constitution---it has been SERIOUSLY mis-interpreted and mis-applied by the useful idiots ever since.

31 posted on 08/11/2002 5:56:43 AM PDT by ninenot
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