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To: xJones; mafree; kdoxxx; DeBug=int13; spetznaz; Ivan the Terrible; BlackVeil; SJackson; Catspaw; ...
Zimbabwe Financial Times this June:

. . .The people's cries for help to a government that they had just elected and indeed kept in power for the past 20 years were largely ignored.

So it is in this context that it is difficult to understand Andrew Young, the visiting African-American activist and former mayor of Atlanta.

While Young, an internationally respected politician, is very right to point out that the land issue was paramount and should be resolved, there is no excuse whatsoever for him - a man who enjoys the full protection of the law in his home country the United States - to come here and proclaim that all is well, that there is no lawlessness in Zimbabwe let alone on the farms, as he is quoted as having said.

Surely it should be obvious to a person of Young's experience that the last place he could find out about the lawlessness in Zimbabwe is the State House.

Zimbabweans are tired of international apologists for ZANU PF's current violent campaign and appeal to Young and his ilk to stop trying to legitimise state-sponsored terrorism. Enough is enough.

PRESIDENT CLINTON ANNOUNCES SOUTHERN AFRICA DEVELOPMENT FUND

Andrew Young, Chairman
Former Mayor of Atlanta and Former United States Ambassador to the United Nations
Atlanta, GA

Alison Leland Brisco
Lehman Brothers

Houston, TX

Maurice Tempelsman
Leon Tempelsman & Co.
New York, NY

Government Offered Secret Gem Deal (Kennedys and Democrat Donor--Tempelsman--Involved)

From the University of California:

Nine banks hid loans, set up false investments and facilitated phantom Enron sales

Business Week:

Less well-known are four of Winnick's Drexel colleagues, now at Toronto-based Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (CIBC), which provided a healthy chunk of Global Crossing's initial capital. Because of its investment, CIBC, one of Canada's five largest banks, has realized more than $1.3 billion in profits from Global.
From www.jewishsf.com

Despite bankruptcy, he's still big donor to Jewish causes
. . . largest single donation is the $40 million pledged to the Simon Wiesenthal Center for construction of the Winnick Institute in Jerusalem.

Master of Disaster - How L.A.'s super-rich Gary Winnick is trying to wash blood from the Global Crossing implosion off his hands -- and make more money in the bargain.

Zimbabwe diamond deals exposed--Former Mossad agent trades weapons for diamonds to Mugabe.

UN Security Council Report:

"69. . . a whole network of Israelis was established, including Mr. Gertler in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Lev Leviev in Angola and Shmuel Shnitzer in Sierra Leone. In all three cases, the pattern is the same. Conflict diamonds are exchanged for money, weapons and military training. These diamonds are then transported to Tel Aviv by former Israeli Air Force pilots, whose numbers have significantly increased both in UNITA-held territory in Angola and in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. In Israel, these diamonds are then cut and sold at the Ramat Gan Diamond Centre."
Details on the Ramat Gan Diamond Center here:

Italy holds al-Qaeda arms trade suspect

Israeli Weapons Arrive in Zimbabwe

57 posted on 08/10/2002 8:43:32 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Thanks for the information!
58 posted on 08/10/2002 8:56:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: LarryLied
Larry... I have told you before to take me off your ping lists. I am not interested in your generic info-dumps. Learn to maintain a ping list. You are not on mine.

If you reply to a post of mine then great. I have no need for the rest of your mass-pinging crap.
59 posted on 08/10/2002 9:06:40 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
Then your support of Cynthia McKinney is both indefensible and hypocritical.  McKinney said this about Zimbabwe on December 5, 2001:

* Zimbabwe is Africa's second-longest stable democracy. It is multi-party. It had elections last year where the opposition, Movement for Democratic Change, won over 50 seats in the parliament. It has an opposition press which vigorously criticizes the government and governing party. It has an independent judiciary which issues decisions contrary to the wishes of the governing party. Zimbabwe is not without troubles, but neither is the United States. I have not heard anyone proposing a United States Democracy Act following last year's Presidential electoral debacle. And if a foreign country were to pass legislation calling for a United States Democracy Act which provided funding for United States opposition parties under the fig leaf of ``Voter Education,'' this body and this country would not stand for it.

69 posted on 08/11/2002 4:46:37 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: LarryLied
Is this your new thread to thread Jew ping list? Pretty lame. I'll save time and post my response to your last ping.

Larry's Girl!!!
Armed Services Committee
International Relations Committee


Rep Cynthia McKinney showed
the House a cluster bomb
and a food ration dropped by U.S.
planes on Afghanistan.
Can you tell the difference?
Another sick scam
by Herr Rumsfeld?


I am not aware of any
evidence showing that President Bush
or members of his administration have
personally profited from the attacks
of 9-11. A complete investigation
might reveal that to be the case


Now President Bush occupies the
White House, but with questionable legitimacy.
But however he got there, his
Administration is now free to spend
one to four billion dollars a month on the
war in Afghanistan . . . free to cut the high deployment
overtime pay of our young service men
and women fighting in that war . . .
free to propose drilling in
the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve
National Park . . . free to stonewal
l on the Enron and Energy Task Force
investigations . . . free to revoke the rules
that keep our drinking water free of arsenic . . .
free to get caught in Venezuela . . .
and free to propose laws that
deny our citizens sacred freedoms
cherished under the Constitution.

Lev Leviev, Maurice Tempelsman, the Oppenheimer family and the rest of the diamond cartel were protected and the money from the dirty trade kept pouring into the DNC, you two could care if Karl Marx himself had McKinney's seat and everyone knows it.
You only want her out because she is causing trouble for the liberal sleazes in the diamond trade.

Zimbabwe diamond deals exposed (former Mossad agent Ari Ben-Menashe again)
Mugabe pays Ben-Menashe $400,000
Post all the stuff you want about the Palestinians...that can cover up only so much Israeli/DNC corruption elsewhere. People get sick of it.

Naah, Lar, doesn’t fly.

Sorry you don’t like reading about terrorists so much. Sure Lar, Freepers post and talk about Palestinians and other assorted Islamic terrorists to take the pressure off Israel and the DNC. Terrorists do nothing bad compared to Jews. Thanks for the insight troll.

You’re entitled to support McKinney, it’s OK. I want her out because anti-American, and trashes our President and our nation. You want her in because she trashes Israel too. You shouldn’t feel bad about that. More importantly, I think it’s likely she’ll win, you’ll be able to revel in her pronouncements for years.

Your accusation that I’m covering up money smuggling and illegal contributions for the DNC is an outright lie. You’re welcome to back it up if you like. Which brings us to the key point.

These are CRIMES. I’ve asked you to provide evidence of these contributions, preferably to the FBI, but if you post them here (shaky idea) I’ll see that they get to the authorities. Most of the people you cite, with the exception of Tempelsman aren’t American citizens (I know, they’re Jews). Their campaign contributions are ILLEGAL. It’s a slam bang open and shut case. WHY ARE YOU WITHOLDING THE EVIDENCE? If you don’t have it why are you accusing others of a coverup? You’re either a coward or a slanderer.

From a political perspective, another Freeper once commented that if he were James Carville, he’d compile the LarryLied commentaries into a scrapbook, to use as proof that conservatives are a bunch of anti-Semitic right wing bigots. Not true, but a stereotype you certainly give life to.

Allow me to congratulate for reinforcing the stereotype of conservative as a bunch of divisive, conspiracy nuts. Accusing people of crimes is fun Larry, but you really need to back it up.

In a vacumn, this would be fun and games. Unfortunately we live in a divided country. I love GWB, but I also realize Gore got more votes. We’re coming into what will be some very tight elections this fall.

You want McKinney back in, I’d prefer Majette, but I’d really like to see the Republicans pick up a lousy five seats. And you’re doing your best to see that doesn’t happen.

Your sick agenda is very sad. And it harms Republican chances.

Sorry again about posting about Islamic terrorists. If it bothers you, don't read the threads.


71 posted on 08/11/2002 7:11:18 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: LarryLied
Whooowweeeeee!!! That's some hot info LL!
79 posted on 08/12/2002 9:41:33 PM PDT by mafree
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