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.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. MEL GIBSON's new ..'Braveheart in 'Nam.. is out in DVD/Video today...
..'WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG'.. 7th Cavalry Website ^ | 8/20/2002 | ALOHA RONNIE

Posted on 08/20/2002 5:44:58 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE

NEVER FORGET

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..

...the new RANDALL WALLACE ..'Braveheart in 'Nam.. Motion Picture starring MEL GIBSON, SAM ELLIOTT, MADELEINE STOWE, GREG KINNEAR, CHRIS KLEIN, KERI RUSSELL, BARRY PEPPER about the 1st Major Battle of the Vietnam War in the -Valley of Death- that was the IA DRANG of November 1965...

...is out today on ..DVD/Video in Super-Surround Sound that highlights the unforgettably lush Soundtrack Musical Score of NICK GLENNIE-SMITH.

...A major new plus here is the new addition of -10- previously deleted scenes on both the DVD and Video with Commentary by "WE WERE SOLDIERS" Director/Screenwriter RANDALL WALLACE, who won an Academy Award for his 1st .."BRAVEHEART".. Motion Picture Screenplay starring ..MEL GIBSON..!

...In .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. MEL GIBSON is then Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE who led his 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry (Of CUSTER fame) Skytroopers to victory, while surrounded by 2,000 North Vietnamese Communist Regulars, in the 7th Cav's 2nd Battle of the Little Big Horn to open the Vietnam War.

...This outstanding Motion Picture is based on the Classic Non-Fiction Bestselling Book ..'WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG'.. Co-Authored by now Lt. Gen. HAL G. MOORE (Ret.) and War Correspondant JOE GALLOWAY who was there.

...It was my distinct honor to carry Radio and drive for Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE (MEL GIBSON) and his S/MAJ BASIL L. PLUMLEY (SAM ELLIOTT) right up to this Battle, where I witnessed all from the close-in Artillery Support Landing Zone Falcon that fired up a constant Wall of Fire around the surrounded Landing Zone of IA DRANG-1965 = THE Difference.

...After my carrying our Hero Dead and Wounded Young Soldiers fresh from Landing Zone X-Ray to helicopters going back to the rear at Pleiku Airstrip ...Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE wrote out his -Letters of Condolances- to their Hero Families waiting for them their Loved Ones to come home or not. As the IA DRANG-1965 S-1 Personnel Clerk ..I typed them up for mailing home ..some directly to Mrs. JULIE MOORE's for her hand delivery to wives.

...All this I will NEVER FORGET.

Signed:..ALOHA RONNIE Guyer / Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 / Landing Zone Falcon / www.lzxray.com

NEVER FORGET


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GARRY OWEN, Sir (U.S. 7th Cavalry Salute 2-U)

...To see Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE's -Smile of Victory- after his Victory at Landing Zone X-Ray...

...go to the ..'RONNIE GUYER PHOTO COLLECTION'..

...accessed thru the..'IA DRANG - Interest'.. Section, lower right -HOME PAGE- of...

.. www.lzxray.com .. (U.S. 7th Cavalry Website)

GARRY OWEN, Sir (U.S. 7th Cavalry Salute 2-U)

1 posted on 08/20/2002 5:44:59 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Also in Breaking news:

Rubber Ducky Race Postponed

Part of the homecoming festivities are being put on hold, for a couple weeks anyway.

To the disappointment of many, this year's Rubber Ducky Derby was postponed.

Organizers tell us that although the race won't be for a couple of weeks, ticket sales for the Rubber Duckies, are finished.

But the good news is that for those of you who did buy a ticket, the winner will get $15,000 to put towards a new car of their choice at Warton, Superior, Warner, Mullen, or Kinchelo Motors.

2 posted on 08/20/2002 5:50:26 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks for the heads up, Ronnie. This one's definitely going into my collection. A great inspirational book and film.
3 posted on 08/20/2002 5:50:51 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
B TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
4 posted on 08/20/2002 5:53:17 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: chance33_98
Bump
5 posted on 08/20/2002 5:54:06 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Became my favorite movie of all time when I saw it in theaters.
6 posted on 08/20/2002 5:57:32 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: All; Snow Bunny; Joy Angela; Fred Mertz; Joe Montana; Jim Robinson; JMJ333; Ragtime Cowgirl; ...
...Here's a...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. 4-The Home..

...Head's Up 4-U...
7 posted on 08/20/2002 6:00:28 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: TADSLOS
GARRY OWEN, Sir
8 posted on 08/20/2002 6:01:15 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: chance33_98
THANK YOU! I was waiting for someone to report on this! Now I can go to sleep! See ya!
9 posted on 08/20/2002 6:01:31 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: My Favorite Headache
GARRY OWEN, Sir
10 posted on 08/20/2002 6:01:54 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Well, I dunno, some people thing Mel Gibson and Rubber Duckies go well together in a thread...Although I personally prefer rubber duckies and Jennifer Connelly!
11 posted on 08/20/2002 6:05:46 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: TADSLOS
.."WE WERE SOLDIERS" =

...THE Example for us to all to now follow from long, long ago...

...in a new -Time of War-..

...in a new Century...

...with an Enemy that is now Within.

...Looking after EACH OTHER on the Battlefield and at home is the ONLY way for US to attain VICTORY.
12 posted on 08/20/2002 6:06:53 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Looking after EACH OTHER on the Battlefield and at home is the ONLY way for US to attain VICTORY

Amen.

13 posted on 08/20/2002 6:08:13 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Sidebar Moderator
A thank you Ping. Might buy one of those dvd things.

SM (that doesn't sound good), a request to keep it breaking.

14 posted on 08/20/2002 6:09:07 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Best film in memory. Best film of the war. Per Joe Galloway interview to Proceedings, faithful to his and Gen. Moore's book in the main. With "Black Hawk Down" a long-deserved salute to the bravery of our fighting men.

During that month, November, 1965, LBJ refused the Joint Chiefs' request for permission to bomb Hanoi and mine Haiphong, per the account of the Marine officer present at the meeting, "The Day It Became The Longest War". Lt. Gen. Charles G. Cooper, U.S. Marine Corps (Retired), pp 77-80, Proceedings, May 1996.

The treacherous betrayal by LBJ parallels the ceding of command to the UN in Somalia by traitorrapist42.

Now, as we continue the war on terrorism, we have a Commander-In-Chief who will continue to support our people.

15 posted on 08/20/2002 6:12:50 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: SJackson
BTTT For the duckies! Oh and the Mel what's his face thingee too.
16 posted on 08/20/2002 6:13:04 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Kindly note my influence with the moderator. I guess I should have kept my mouth shut. Sorry.
17 posted on 08/20/2002 6:14:07 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: My Favorite Headache
Became my favorite movie of all time when I saw it in theaters.

You gotta be kidding! This movie SUCKED! The book was wonderful. The movie substituted a stupid hollywood ending that never happened. C'mon, folks. I like Gibson, loved the book, but let's be real. The movie just didn't hack it.

18 posted on 08/20/2002 6:55:48 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Timmy
And you don't like feel good Hollywood endings? The Left's gotta hear about that one since thet were against the Vietnam War. Nothing wrong with a little historical revisionism after 911 and remember - its only a movie!
19 posted on 08/20/2002 7:00:22 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
Nothing wrong with a little historical revisionism after 911 and remember - its only a movie!

Maybe, but let's face it--for better or for worse, movies are how many, many people get a good deal of their history. When movies revise it to be something it's not, then it completely distorts it in the eyes of the public.

20 posted on 08/20/2002 7:08:42 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Bump!
21 posted on 08/20/2002 7:58:40 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Future Snake Eater
This movie was good.It didn't run down the image of those of us who served in that war.It showed something about leaders who are loyal to their men and men loyal to each other.None of the Hollywood leftist relativism.The book was better because it was history.This is a dramatization.It's the attitude of the film that hits home in a positive way.It allows us to see that sometimes you're just faced with absolutes-no time to theorize and discuss things.The impact on the families was skillfully interwoven."Blackhawk Down" was also worthwhile,but it related an isolated incident in the midst of a mission with no clearly defined purpose.Vietnam just went on and on-it was the defining aspect of my generation along with the Cold War.
22 posted on 08/20/2002 8:40:50 PM PDT by steamroller
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To: steamroller
I read the book and just finished the movie. I also appreciated having the deleted scenes because I really missed having the unit march in formation at the end. It is in the deleted scenes. I thought the movie was quite well done and was very respectful of our men.

I will always be grateful for our brave soldiers who fought in Nam. I will never forgive the politicians and the idiot Generals who used the war for personal gain.

Thanks to all you Viet Nam vets who are Freepers.
23 posted on 08/20/2002 9:19:05 PM PDT by arjay
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To: SJackson
...DVD Player =

...60th Birthday gift =

...WHO woulda thunk long, long ago in that -Valley of Death-..?

...Just in time tonight to enjoy...

...the sharpest picture and the clearest sound imaginable for...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. =

...My 4th of many more viewings.

...DVD beats Theaters, weapons down.
24 posted on 08/20/2002 9:42:46 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: arjay; Fred Mertz; Snow Bunny; Bob J
NEVER FORGET

...RANDALL WALLACE's purpose was to make a Motion Picture of HEALING, for both our Veterans and our still confused Country.

...I am hearing from Veterans Administration Personnel that it's been their experience with handling Veterans of all our Modern Day Wars that...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. has been just such a HEALING. What a Gift...?

...RANDALL WALLACE should know...

...as his father died the morning of September 11, 2001.

...I too should know, for my own Father died just two days before.

...Mrs. SUSAN RESCORLA knows too well...

...as it was her husband RICK...

...Hero of the Battle of IA DRANG-1965, WTC Bombing-1993 and the WTC-Airstrikes-2001...

...who gave all that he had that 2nd Day of Infamy while saving the lives of 1,000's of others before Tower 2 came down on him as he was making his final sweep up there for any stragglers. Just like he did at Landing Zone X-Ray long, long ago.

...Lt. RICK RESCORLA =

...Graces the Cover of .."WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG".. and the Top of the -Home Page- of...

.. www.lzxray.com ..

...for great cause.


GARRY OWEN, Sir, and WELL DONE.

NEVER FORGET
25 posted on 08/20/2002 10:08:50 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks for this thread RONNIE. I saw the movie and the story in the movie theater....it was awesome and moving.
26 posted on 08/20/2002 10:12:38 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Timmy
...MOORE/GALLOWAY both say that...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. is...

...about 85% Accurate,

...and about 15% Hollywood,

...to tell a Story that touches Hearts and HEALS Souls.
27 posted on 08/20/2002 10:13:35 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: PhilDragoo; Future Snake Eater
NEVER FORGET

...Historians are now saying that our commitment in men and material to support Freedom for 10 years in a then Free South Vietnam...

...forced the Communist Soviet Union to do the same for Communist North Vietnam to the tune of $$Billions$$.

...Only they couldn't afford it and in the end it help BANKRUPT them as we all saw the Berlin Wall and the Communist Soviet Union come tumbling down.

...It all T'wasn't for nothing after all.

PRAY for the still Communist enslaved people of a now Communist Vietnam.


NEVER FORGET
28 posted on 08/20/2002 10:22:34 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: All; Judicial Watch; Carl/NewsMax
...For more...

...check out my Bookmarked List of...


.."WE WERE SOLDIERS" - Battle of IA DRANG-1965 - RICK RESCORLA...


...Freerepublic.com Threads...

...by accessing the.. ALOHA RONNIE ..on this Post.

...May I suggest starting with the last Thread on the List titled:

'The bravest man I ever knew'
29 posted on 08/20/2002 10:39:12 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; TADSLOS; All
"Looking after EACH OTHER on the Battlefield and at home is the ONLY way for US to attain VICTORY"

Amen.....and again.....Amen.

30 posted on 08/21/2002 1:42:15 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thank you Ronnie so much. The Book was awesome and so was the film.
31 posted on 08/21/2002 2:06:07 AM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny
ANY movie with Mel Gibson in it is a box office draw. The two finest movies he ever made were Gallipoli in his native Australia and the stirring rendition of the life of William Wallace in Braveheart in resisting the cruel oppression of English King Edward Longshanks upon the Scots.
32 posted on 08/21/2002 2:12:31 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
His Hamlet was great.
33 posted on 08/21/2002 2:27:23 AM PDT by scouse
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To: scouse
...MEL GIBSON is WILLIAM WALLACE...

...MEL GIBSON is HAL G. MOORE...

...MEL GIBSON is now...

...producing .."PASSION"..

...The Life of JESUS CHRIST.

Fits.

34 posted on 08/21/2002 6:35:35 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: doug from upland; DoughtyOne; Mercuria; abigail2; rebuildus; Bob J; Diver Dave; RenoBuster; ...
...Here's a...

...MEL GIBSON .."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..

...DVD Salute 2-U at...

.. http://www.lzxray.com ..
35 posted on 08/21/2002 8:31:03 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I just saw We Were Soldiers on DVD. Its a great war movie. You have to admire both the general and the men he led in Ia Drang Valley in the Central Highlands in the face of an enemy with superior numbers and arms and being totally surrounded. Its a good look at soldiers as husbands and fathers not just warriors. What I liked about is that it finally gives our Vietnam Vets the gratitude and appreciation they should have gotten back then. Whatever one's personal feelings about the war, our soldiers got a raw deal on coming back home. Its time to remember them as the heroes they were and how much they sacrificed for their country. Looking at 7th Calvary Company's exploits on the field of battle brings tears to one's eyes and makes one proud to be an American. God Bless America.
36 posted on 08/21/2002 9:46:15 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
GARRY OWEN, Sir...
37 posted on 08/21/2002 9:55:05 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: TADSLOS
NEVER FORGET

...You should hear Composer NICK GLENNIE-SMITH's beautiful .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. Musical Score on your home and car stereos.

...Check out the Music Score samples and Reviews on...

.. http://www.Amazon.com

NEVER FORGET
38 posted on 08/21/2002 2:21:17 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: All; TADSLOS
NEVER FORGET

...RANDALL WALLACE's outstanding new Book...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS - The Screenplay"..

...also has some outstanding inputs about its filming and its Heroes as also exemplified in its Reader Reader Reviews accessible thru...

.. http://www.lzxray.com ..

NEVER FORGET
39 posted on 08/21/2002 2:33:30 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: All; goldstategop
NEVER FORGET

...See our new .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. Forum on...

.. http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum

NEVER FORGET
40 posted on 08/21/2002 2:40:13 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Future Snake Eater
Well the guys that were there that the History Channel dug up for their History vs Hollywood on the movie said they didn't have a problem with the revisions, they thought it made for good drama and didn't detract from the reality of the events. If they don't have a problem I don't have a problem.
41 posted on 08/21/2002 2:41:33 PM PDT by discostu
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
...To see Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE's -Smile of Victory- after his Victory at Landing Zone X-Ray...

...go to the ..'RONNIE GUYER PHOTO COLLECTION'..

...accessed thru the..'IA DRANG - Interest'.. Section, lower right -HOME PAGE- of...

.. www.lzxray.com .. (U.S. 7th Cavalry Website)

Those are some fine photographs, to be sure. To the uninitiated, the pics look like they could've been taken last week; they are that sharp. However, even an observer with an untrained eye can see just how long ago it really was... when they click through Collection #1 and spot that photo of a young, relatively slender, visiting Senator Ted Kennedy! That's some jaunty cover he's wearing, too. Hoo boy, I feel old.

42 posted on 08/21/2002 2:54:14 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: scouse
"His Hamlet was great."

Kenneth Branaugh's was better...


43 posted on 08/21/2002 3:02:21 PM PDT by sabe@q.com
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I just went down to costco to get the VHS version, seems costco no longer sells VHS...crappola!
44 posted on 08/21/2002 3:43:27 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
...Historians are now saying that our commitment in men and material to support Freedom for 10 years in a then Free South Vietnam...

...forced the Communist Soviet Union to do the same for Communist North Vietnam to the tune of $$Billions$$.

...Only they couldn't afford it and in the end it help BANKRUPT them as we all saw the Berlin Wall and the Communist Soviet Union come tumbling down.

Had the Soviet Union not been so engaged, we might have faced the scenario of Gen. Sir John Hackett in The Third World War: August 1985.

The Black Book of Communism indicates Communism killed 100 million in the last century. From Stalin's pogroms, "famines" and purges to Mao's Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, "famines" and labor camps, to Pol Pot's pyramid of two million skulls and Fidel's 100,000 victims of political prisonerhood, fusilamientos, and drownings, the bloodbath of Communism has proven the greatest of evils.

That American resistance in Vietnam, altogether with the Reagan arms race bankrupted and dissolved the Warsaw Pact is the greatest victory for freedom in the world.

"We Were Soldiers" is simply a single statement in the new, emended history of the Twentieth Century, in which the American fighting man broke the yoke of the Communist slavemaster.

In the Twenty-First Century, the Islamofascist threat and its ChiCom patron will be similarly dismantled, without the interference of Johnson, McNamara, or Kissinger.

45 posted on 08/21/2002 4:15:57 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: JDoutrider; kristinn; Fred Mertz
...It's worth it to get yourself a new DVD Player just to really experience .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. the way it was meant to be experienced.

...WAL-MART has been selling good little APEX Brand Units for under $70. I know because one was given to me for my 60th Birthday specifically for the coming of the ..WWS.. DVD.

...The clarity of DVD is the closest I've seen this side of HDTV. If your TV has a S-VHS socket be sure to also get a little S-VHS cable to hook up to it and your DVD. What a beaut.

...NICK GLENNIE-SMITH's (Formerly of PINK FLOYD and HANS ZIMMER Fame) lush Musical Score and the over 10,000 rounds expended during the filming of ..WWS.. come right out at ya thru a new Paramount Sound System used in DVD for the first time here. I actually found myself wanting to duck.

...At BLOCKBUSTER Video Stores you can rent .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. and the BUY it afterwards at a discount.

...Be sure to watch Director/Screenwriter RANDALL WALLACE's Extra Feature about his filming of .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. on the DVD. It's unforgettable because it's called .."GETTING IT RIGHT" ...and has he ever.


Garry Owen, Sir
46 posted on 08/21/2002 5:19:56 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Fred Mertz; Joe Montana; Ragtime Cowgirl; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Snow Bunny; goldilucky; ...

...See the...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..

...Thread titled:

'JOE GALLOWAY takes us to LZ Falcon in -VIETNAM- Cover Story'

..on..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum

...Then check out his outstanding .."WE WERE SOLDIERS - Eyewitness at LZ X-Ray".. Cover Story in the October 2002 Issue of -VIETNAM- Magazine.

...It's a Great Read.
47 posted on 08/21/2002 5:35:23 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: All
Here's my take on the flick.

I do not have a military background, so please correct me if my complaints stem from ignorance of military ground procedure.

I have to say I was severely disappointed with this movie. I love Mel and his courage to stick with his values in a valueless movie industry. I loved Braveheart (in my top 10) and liked The Patriot although I thought it had script flaws and suffered a bit too much emotional glurge in addition to pulling out too many movie cliches.

But We Were Soldiers goes over the glurge barrier. To be effective at showing the emotional and psych impact of the carnage of combat does not require showing every character's family back home. It almost got to the point that if a character had an emotional fairwell at the beginning, you knew he was probably going to get killed later on. The opening scenes of Saving Private Ryan do not show the families and homefronts of the men being mowed down by German machine guns, but it is much more effectively executed in my opinion.

None of the battle scenes in this movie even approach the effectivess or polish of Ryan, Blackhawk Down, or Apocalypse Now.

I doubled over with disbelief at the scene where the soldiers get off the Hueys and see a scout and start immediately start running after him into unknown territory. I'm not a combat veteran, and this very well may be the way things happened in the Valley of Death, but it seems foolish to charge after someone into enemy territory blindly. That reeks of setup and ambush to me. It turned out to be an ambush and cut off the soldiers on the Knoll. If I could see this coming, I feel that the trained soldiers should have seen it coming, especially since military intel had absolutely no idea how many enemies were in the area.

The other thing I had a problem with was Sam Elliot's character. Yeah, I liked his bad-a** old man characterization, but would a veteran soldier (of all 4 WW2 air drops for that matter) really refuse a rifle to stand by his 1911 alone?

My other problem was the way Mel Gibson's character kept standing up straight in the midst of heavy enemy fire. Even after a bullet scaped his backpack, he still didn't take cover. Is this the way things are done?

And wouldn't Greg Kinnear's character get court marshaled for pulling a gun on an a fellow officer? That scene hit the sour note of unbelievability for me. But hey, I guess that might be the way it really happened.

My last gripe is probably just from my own ignorance, because I have no idea what the real Ia Drang Valley looks like; but didn't it seem that they were filming the battle scenes in rural California? It didn't look like Vietnam to me from the reading and research I've done. I looked up the filming location on the IMDB and indeed I found the filming locations to be all stateside. This seemed to be reminiscent of The Green Berets with John Wayne where they tried to depict Vietnam by filming in Georgia(!). It seems that a big budget movie like this could have afforded to film in the Phillipines (like Apocalypse Now) or Central America (like Predator).

That's my two cents, and I do not mean in any way to disrespect the soldiers who fought in the Ia Drang Valley or in any other combat for that matter. This is just my opinion of the film alone, and I just felt that it didn't live up to cinema's greatest war films.

48 posted on 08/21/2002 6:02:14 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: Charles Martel
...A very young Senator TED KENNEDY standing there with me at General HARRY W.O. KINNARD's 1st Cavalry Division Headquarters in Mid-October 1965...

...is wearing an Australian Army Ranger Hat given to him by the Aussie's while on tour investigating the War Refugee Situation in a then Free South Vietnam.

...It was quite a day at AN KHE.
49 posted on 08/21/2002 6:07:51 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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One more small gripe. I see that someone here remarked about how great the DVD clarity of the film was. On this I have to seriously disagree. I thought the digital transfer was terrible. It was not sharp IMO and was very grainy, but not in an intentionally grainy way, like Saving Private Ryan's intentionally newsreel grainy look. For an example of this, just check out the scene in Mel Gibson's house where Madeline Stown peeks around the corner at her husband while he's going over the reason's for the French Defeat. You can see pixelization and digital artifacts all around her body.

Check out Apocalypse Now: Redux and Blackhawk Down for excellent and amazingly sharp digital transfers.

50 posted on 08/21/2002 6:07:57 PM PDT by GunRunner
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