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.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. MEL GIBSON's new ..'Braveheart in 'Nam.. is out in DVD/Video today...
..'WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG'.. 7th Cavalry Website ^
| 8/20/2002
| ALOHA RONNIE
Posted on 08/20/2002 5:44:58 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: GunRunner
"I guess this sounds pretty juvenile and stupid to combat vets ..."
Yes it does and is.
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posted on
08/21/2002 8:52:38 PM PDT
by
marajade
To: chance33_98
Well, I dunno, some people thing Mel Gibson and Rubber Duckies go well together in a thread... you quack me up, Chance33_98! :>
(although I am loving the idea of Mel Gibson and Rubber Duckies...add warm water and Mr. Bubble and I think I'd be in heaven!!)
To: GunRunner
...You have a good head, GR.
...U.S. Military Service is THE Greatest.
...Does your TV have a S-VHS Jack in the back...?
...My .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. DVD is splendid with it.
To: ALOHA RONNIE
Haven't hooked up my SV connections yet. Best Buy originally tried to sell me the component jacks, which are 3 RCA's if you are familiar with them. I bought those and the performance was terrible, so I'm stuck with straight RCA's now.
To: GunRunner
65
posted on
08/21/2002 9:08:08 PM PDT
by
marajade
To: marajade
...I personally will NEVER FORGET the ..WWS.. Deleted DVD Scene showing a just widowed Mrs. TOM METSKER attempting to sing a Christain Song in front of her Ft. Benning's Church members, and the real Lt. Gen. HAL G. MOORE (Ret.), honoring her husband at his own Memorial Service. And then came the sudden break away to BRUCE CRANDALL and ED "TOO TALL" FREEMAN's Huey's zeroing once again for LZ X-Ray.
...I will also NEVER FORGET carrying Capt. TOM METSKER's body off of Major BRUCE CRANDALL's Huey at LZ Falcon, id'ing him and later on typing up Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE's -Letter of Condolance- to his widow.
NEVER.
To: ALOHA RONNIE
I think I'll do a search on Robert McNamara. My husband stated he couldn't understand how a man could come out and support a war just because he worked for a President at the time and then come out later and write a book against it later.
You could tell in that deleted scene that Westmoreland and McNamara weren't even listing to what he was telling them... Worse yet, they didn't even care ...
67
posted on
08/21/2002 9:20:13 PM PDT
by
marajade
To: marajade
...In the real MOORE/MacNAMRA After-Action Scene back at Gen. HARRY W.O. KINNARD's 1st Cavalry Division Headquarters after our Victory at IA DRANG-1965...
...HAL gave a 15 minute report to MacNAMARA who merely shoke his hand afterward, said "Thanks" and promptly wrote up a Report on the plane back home itemizing why we could NEVER win the Vietnam War.
...Until his resignation years later Secretary of Defense ROBERT S. MacNAMARA personally got to OK every Airstrike Target LBJ hit in Communist North Vietnam.
...With "Friends" like this ..no wonder LBJ became a one term President...?
To: marajade
...MEL GIBSON = TIM =
...A Star is Born.
To: ALOHA RONNIE
That's what my husband was saying that even Johnson himself ordered differing strikes in that war rather than leaving them to the military... Kinda sounds like Clinton in Somalia doesn't it?
And people kept saying that Bush had one of the weakest governorships in the country and that he was qualified to be President.
Johnson was a US Senator and a Vice President and still didn't know how to be President.
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posted on
08/21/2002 9:35:55 PM PDT
by
marajade
To: marajade
oops Bush wasn't
71
posted on
08/21/2002 9:36:45 PM PDT
by
marajade
To: marajade
...MacNAMARA was LBJ's Bombing Filter.
...LBJ was committed to fighting Communism, MacNAMARA wasn't.
To: ALOHA RONNIE
Well you would never see Rumsfeld disagree with Bush ever... Did you see them together today? Rumsfeld basically told the press that Bush was President and he would do whatever he was ordered to do... Don't you love it?
73
posted on
08/21/2002 9:52:45 PM PDT
by
marajade
To: marajade
...I LOVE IT indeed.
...HILLARY hates it and them.
...Pray for them.
To: GunRunner; marajade
ALOHA GunRunner...
...I'm so very proud of your openess about our .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. Story.
...The Biblical Interpretation of the word MEEK is defined as .."Being Open and Teachable".. which you have certainly proven to be here on this Forum Thread that was fired up in honor of those 7th Cavalry IA DRANG-1965 Heroes whose names took the place of mine on the 3rd Panel of the Vietnam Wall.
GARRY OWEN, Sir
To: All; TADSLOS; Joy Angela; Snow Bunny; goldilucky; d14truth; kristinn; Republic; Carl/NewsMax; ...
...And now it has been announced that both the Governors of New Jersey and New York are proposing to change the name of the Newark International Airport to -LIBERTY- International Airport in honor of the 3,000 people who lost their lives on September 11, 2001.
..'WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG'..and September 11th's Tower 2 Hero RICK RESCORLA lived in New Jersey.
Fits.
To: marajade
One character was actually an amalgamism of about 6 guys (can't remember which character). That whole hand raising out of the dirt scene was a fabrication (as the guy said "we were yelling our heads off before our rescuers were even in sight, everybody still alive was quite visibly alive"). And that closing scene where he pays respect to the enemy never happened. I think there were a couple more but that's all I can remember. And of course the death notice thing was pure Hollywood in the timing (nobody got notices while the battle was still happening for reasons that are obvious upon reflection), but that was so powerful they are completely forgiven.
77
posted on
08/22/2002 8:06:33 AM PDT
by
discostu
To: discostu
NEVER FORGET...& ALOHA 2-discostu...
...2/Lt. JACK GEOGHAGEN's Character was that 6-Man .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. Role that included 2/Lt. WALTER MARM's storming of a Machine Gun nest all by himself that gave his fellow SkyTroopers on the line more encouragement to fight on...
...and a future Congressional Medal of Honor for himself.
GARRY OWEN, Sir
To: ALOHA RONNIE
To: ALOHA RONNIE
I am someone who was greatly affected by Vietnam movies such as "The Deer Hunter" when I was growing up in the 70's and 80's.
The intense violence was so shocking and inhumane, that I find it hard to watch any movie on Vietnam.
I find out now, that the movie makers had that in mind. By focusing on the horror and the killing, they were trying to turn America's youth into pacifists, afraid to fight for freedom because war was bloody and people died!
What was left out of the typical Vietnam movie was the very real fight between Good and Evil, and the reality that Communism wants to see AMERICA dead!
I have yet to see WE WERE SOLDIERS because of a remnant of the brainwashing that got to me years ago. But, I'm going to push past that "feeling" and rent the DVD!
From what I've read about Mel Gibson's movie, it is one of the best Vietnam movies because it returned respect to the Soldier and it also returned MEANING to the war effort, restoring Valor and Honor to the cause of fighting for FREEDOM and also to fighting against EVIL!
I'll let you know after I watch WE WERE SOLDIERS, because with Hillary Clinton and her Communist ties to China...WE ARE ALL SOLDIERS NOW!!!
Best regards to all those who helped keep America Free!
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