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Torricelli Troubles: Union, Voters Fall for Forrester
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 8/22/02 | Jeff McKay

Posted on 08/22/2002 5:50:30 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - A rebuke by the U.S. Senate seems to be having much more of an impact on Sen. Bob Torricelli's re-election campaign than the troubled New Jersey Democrat expected.

The latest poll on the Senate race shows GOP challenger Doug Forrester soaring to a double-digit advantage over Torricelli, and now a labor group affiliated with the New Jersey AFL-CIO is throwing its support to Forrester.

In a surprise move, Local 2-891 of the New Jersey AFL-CIO is backing Forrester. While this was not a formal endorsement by the New Jersey AFL-CIO, which has over 1,100 chapters, it is still unusual for a labor union in New Jersey to back a GOP candidate.

"I find that Doug Forrester has more in common with the working men and women of New Jersey than his rival," said Pat O'Connor, president of Local 2-891, which represents workers at Dow Chemical in Piscataway.

"Doug has listened to our concerns by visiting with us and with other workers around the state," he added.

Earlier in the week, Forrester gained the endorsement of the New Jersey Fraternal Order of Police.

Ken Snyder, the campaign manager for Torricelli, downplayed Forrester's union endorsement.

"It's meaningless. This is one Local out of more than 1,100 in the state that supports Doug Forrester," said Snyder.

Snyder added that Torricelli has received the endorsement of the state teacher's union.

Poll reversal

The Forrester campaign insists that voters will take Torricelli's questionable ethics into account when it comes time to vote.

But Torricelli believes that voters will put the ethics questions behind them and focus instead on his record in the Senate.

A Quinnipiac University poll conducted just over two months ago showed Torricelli with an eight-point lead, and that same poll showed a majority of voters had no opinion of Forrester.

However, that poll was conducted before the Senate rebuked Torricelli for accepting gifts from political contributor David Chang.

In a three-page letter, the bipartisan Senate ethics committee unanimously agreed that Torricelli's "actions and failure to act led to violations of Senate rules (and related statutes) and created at least the appearance of impropriety, and you are hereby severely admonished."

The Senate Select Committee on Ethics, chaired by Democratic Sen. Daniel Inouye of Hawaii, concluded that the gifts in question - a bronze statue and audio-visual equipment -- were "not consistent with Senate rules governing such loans, evidenced poor judgment, and displayed a lack of due regard for Senate rules."

Torricelli, addressing his colleagues on the Senate floor, said he wanted them to know, "I agree with the committee's conclusions, fully accept their findings, and take full personal responsibility."

He also said, "It has always been my contention that I believe that at no time did I accept any gifts or violate any Senate rule. I want to apologize to the people of New Jersey for having placed the seat in the United States Senate that they have allowed me to occupy...in this position," he added.

A recent Quinnipiac poll conducted two weeks ago showed Torricelli and Forrester in a statistical dead heat. That same poll also showed that half of the voters believe Torricelli does not have the honesty or the integrity to be reelected.

The latest poll by conducted by WABC-TV shows Forrester has leaped ahead of Torricelli by 11 points.

While the Torricelli camp isn't showing concern, the Forrester campaign believes that voters have lost faith in their first-term Senator.

"Clearly, New Jersey voters still aren't buying Mr. Torricelli's non-apology apology," said Bill Pascoe, the campaign manager for Forrester. "They still do not believe him when he says he took no gifts from David Chang. Instead, Mr. Torricelli continues to deny, evade, obfuscate, confuse, conceal, and complicate."

The Forrester campaign is expected to receive a big boost when President Bush travels to New Jersey to campaign for Torricelli's GOP challenger on September 23rd.

 



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1 posted on 08/22/2002 5:50:30 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Wellstone, Carnahan AND the Torch.
2 posted on 08/22/2002 5:58:20 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: kattracks; Coop
now a labor group affiliated with the New Jersey AFL-CIO is throwing its support to Forrester.

Wow!

3 posted on 08/22/2002 5:59:00 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
You think Tim Johnson's race is not as attractive?

And now perhaps (please please please) Landrieu?

4 posted on 08/22/2002 6:00:59 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; KQQL; eureka!
You forgot about Tim Johnson of SD.

In a surprise move, Local 2-891 of the New Jersey AFL-CIO is backing Forrester.
Earlier in the week, Forrester gained the endorsement of the New Jersey Fraternal Order of Police.

[snicker, snicker]

5 posted on 08/22/2002 6:02:05 AM PDT by Coop
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To: IMRight
And thanks for the flag!
6 posted on 08/22/2002 6:02:33 AM PDT by Coop
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To: Coop
We aim to please.
7 posted on 08/22/2002 6:06:45 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: kattracks
"Snyder added that Torricelli has received the endorsement of the state teacher's union."

Now Children, when you get caught....

8 posted on 08/22/2002 6:06:58 AM PDT by Afronaut
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To: Afronaut
To paraphrase our national treasure from Chicago, If you can't beat a democrat by 20 points from real votes, you won't win and you don't deserve to win. - Daley(sp?)Jr. during the Floriduh recount fiasco.
9 posted on 08/22/2002 6:18:27 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: kattracks
THe torch is out! This will happen because people have a feeling of "courage" about voting him out. They see others are feeling the same way and won't re-think this thing for a very basic reason, they are lazy and DON'T want to think. So there is now NOTHING the torch can do and don't be surprised if the national rats cut their losses and dump him by early Oct.
10 posted on 08/22/2002 6:22:26 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: kattracks
"Clearly, New Jersey voters still aren't buying Mr. Torricelli's non-apology apology," said Bill Pascoe, the campaign manager for Forrester. "They still do not believe him when he says he took no gifts from David Chang. Instead, Mr. Torricelli continues to deny, evade, obfuscate, confuse, conceal, and complicate."

Torch is fast becoming the Pete Rose of national politics.

11 posted on 08/22/2002 6:23:03 AM PDT by copycat
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To: kattracks
But Torricelli believes that voters will put the ethics questions behind them and focus instead on his record in the Senate.

Like when he voted against the Balanced Budget Amendment immediately after and election where he promised voters that he would vote for the Balanced Budget Amendment.

I don't think his record in the Senate is going to help him much.

However, Toricelli's camp knows that they can pick up a quick 10 points by harping on Forrester's "extreme" views on Social Security, guns and abortion. Whether or not his views on these issues are extreme is of no account. There is a certain proportion of people in New Jersey who will believe that all Republicans are "extreme" on these issues.

12 posted on 08/22/2002 6:25:32 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: blackdog
If you can't beat a democrat by 20 points from real votes, you won't win and you don't deserve to win. - Daley(sp?)Jr. during the Floriduh recount fiasco.

Yeah, yeah. It used to be 2-3 points, then 5 points, then 10 points. So now it's 20 points, huh? Why don't you just join the group that thinks it's impossible for Republicans to win anything at all? It's certainly a good energy conservation measure.

13 posted on 08/22/2002 6:26:53 AM PDT by Coop
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To: gridlock
There is a certain proportion of people in New Jersey who will believe that all Republicans are "extreme" on these issues.

Doesn't matter if they're too disgusted with Torricelli to show up and vote.

You can bet Torch will be hammering Forrester on his ties to the drug industry and "corrupt" CEOs.

14 posted on 08/22/2002 6:28:45 AM PDT by Coop
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To: IMRight
There is no possible way for Torch to lose. His acceptance of his "punishment" from the senate was predicated on their assurance of a re-elction. He is not that stupid to stand before the senate and make a formal apology just three months before election time. He could have dragged that on forever. If anyone thinks the democrat machine will let New Jersey fall, it's top fund raiser fall, and be replaced by some republican lightweight, you are seriously in need of upping your meds.
15 posted on 08/22/2002 6:28:54 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Coop
Uhmm.... That is about right! Republicans can communicate on an issue about as well as Lemar Alexander dresses. And as for 2,4,5,20 points....It is the promise, not the number that is important. My wife and I got lost during a vacation road trip in 1981 to the tune of about 50 miles. Today when she tells the story, it is about 300 miles. Most likely the same evolution of a story.
16 posted on 08/22/2002 6:35:10 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Plus Johnson and Cleland...

If we can just hold all our seats in `02...
17 posted on 08/22/2002 6:37:32 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: blackdog
Why don't you plug "Torricelli" into the FR search engine and read about 6-8 articles? Then you'll be able to comprehend how Torch can lose.
18 posted on 08/22/2002 6:39:51 AM PDT by Coop
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To: kattracks
"America has little to teach but much to learn"
19 posted on 08/22/2002 6:40:09 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Wellstone, Carnahan AND the Torch."

And Cleland and Johnson. 54-46. Even if we lose a couple, (NH?, TX?) it's still "Ranking Minority Member" Leahy on the Judiciary Committee......(sounds good to me)!

20 posted on 08/22/2002 6:42:29 AM PDT by Reo
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