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Surveillance cameras will 'patrol' city
The State ^ | 8/22/02 | JEFF WILKINSON

Posted on 08/22/2002 11:52:27 AM PDT by PJeffQ

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To: FenianOfEire
robbery/murder in a residential neighborhood between Five Points, where bars and restaurants are, and the campus of the University, where the National Advocacy Center is located.
41 posted on 08/23/2002 10:06:23 AM PDT by PJeffQ
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To: PJeffQ
It will take cops off their beat, and you will have a room full of cops geting fat, sitting in easy chairs eating Krispy Kreme doughnuts watching cute chicks walking by!!!
42 posted on 08/23/2002 10:10:32 AM PDT by timestax
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To: FenianOfEire
They were later found guilty... From http://www.rcsd.net/media/usattorney.htm:

Richland County Sheriff's Department

LEON L. LOTT, JR.

Sheriff

NEWS ADVISORY

AUGUST 22, 2001 Contact: Lt. Joseph Pellicci

(Work) 691-9025

(Pager) 765-6205

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FOUR TEENAGERS ARRESTED IN SHOOTING DEATH OF FEDERAL PROSECUTOR

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The Richland County Sheriff's Department, the City of Columbia Police Department, and the FBI have announced that four arrests have been made in the August 20th shooting death of Michael Messer. Messer, 49, of Morton Grove, Illinois, was shot and killed at approximately 9:55 p.m. Monday evening in the 800 block of Laurens Street during an attempted robbery by four teenagers.

Messer and Richard Ferguson of Naperville, Illinois were in Columbia attending a federal training seminar at the National Advocacy Center on the University of South Carolina Campus. The two assistant federal prosecutors were walking back to the Advocacy Center from Five Points when the incident occurred. Ferguson was also shot during the attempted robbery, but managed to escape, receiving a gunshot to his right arm.

The four suspects arrested in Messer's murder are:

* Abram Douglas Braveboy, dob of 12/7/82, 2113 Tammy Drive, Columbia

* Cichey Levar Mayo, dob of 2/7/84, 8308 Old Percival Rd, Columbia

* Bryan Murray, dob of 10/6/84, 7920 Spring Flower Rd., Columbia

* Willie James Murphy, Jr., dob of 5/23/85, 125 Leeside Circle, Columbia

Braveboy was arrested August 21st at the Richland County Sheriff's Department. Mayo, Murray, and Murphy were arrested at their respective homes by authorities this morning. Each of the four suspects is facing the following charges:

-murder

-assault and battery with intent to kill

-conspiracy to commit armed robbery (multiple counts)

-armed robbery (multiple counts)

-attempted armed robbery (multiple counts)

The charges stem from five separate incidents involving the suspects, beginning with a random shooting August 17th at the Sonic restaurant on Two Notch Road, and ending with numerous armed robberies on the evening of August 20th. An older model gray Volvo was a common link in many of the crimes.

Richland County Sheriff's investigators broke the case with the arrest of Braveboy. Tuesday morning, August 21st, Braveboy was driving a gray Volvo on Two Notch Road when his vehicle was struck by Sheriff Lott's car during the pursuit of the Bank Of America robbery suspect.

Braveboy drove off before deputies arrived, but Tuesday afternoon, Braveboy's mother came to the Sheriff's Department to report that her son was involved in an accident with a police officer. When investigators discovered the car in question was an older model gray Volvo, they received consent to search the vehicle and discovered several items connected to the murder and robberies.

"We were able to solve this case through, what I call, divine intervention," Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said. "The chances of me running into the murder suspect during the pursuit of another suspect are a million to one. But there is no question that through the diligent efforts of my department, the City of Columbia, the FBI, and the U.S. Attorney's Office, these individuals would eventually have been arrested. We're just thankful the arrests were made before any more innocent people were harmed."

43 posted on 08/23/2002 10:10:37 AM PDT by PJeffQ
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To: stand watie
bump
44 posted on 08/23/2002 10:10:55 AM PDT by timestax
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To: joyful1
We're from the government, and we're here to help.

he he
45 posted on 08/23/2002 10:12:40 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Elsie
Columbia City Hall was broken into by a bum a few weeks ago who was fired from the sanitation dept for burglary on the job... it came out that there was no alarm in place at the time...

the police chief has reportedly said he wants to be the first PD in American without firearms... they had six shot revolvers until 3 yrs ago and then got Sig Sauers...
46 posted on 08/23/2002 10:14:39 AM PDT by PJeffQ
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To: timestax
!!!!
47 posted on 08/23/2002 10:14:47 AM PDT by stand watie
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To: FenianOfEire
http://www.dailyillini.com/aug01/aug27/news/stories/campus01.shtml
48 posted on 08/23/2002 10:15:04 AM PDT by PJeffQ
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To: PJeffQ
Ashcroft speech in Columbia mentioning Messer's murder
49 posted on 08/23/2002 10:18:45 AM PDT by PJeffQ
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To: joyful1
9/11 or 1984? What would be worse?

3000 people were murdered on 9/11.

Over 200,000,000 people were murdered by police states.

You do the math.

50 posted on 08/23/2002 10:44:35 AM PDT by schmelvin
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To: PJeffQ
Take a look a the British, they practicly have the whole city of London on camara and the crime rate is sky rocketing. After someone is killed they can dig out the tapes and look for clues but for preventing crime they are worthless. Even if a cop happened to be sitting staring at the monitor all he could do is dispatch someone to pick up the pieces after the fact.

You want to stop crime, put a cop on the street. You want to fill out reports, put a cop in an easy chair and let him watch tv...

51 posted on 08/23/2002 10:51:44 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
Nope, here you are proven wrong!! The city in England is Manchester. Crime is down 40 percent there! Also, a FR camera caught a crook who is awaiting trial! In fact, despite all the ACLU half truths and spin, in every city where it has been used, crime is down dramatically. Do your homework.
52 posted on 08/23/2002 11:08:01 AM PDT by joyful1
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To: PJeffQ
Sounds like it will soon be time for lo-tech resistance to defeat hi-tech tyranny. Salutations to all Columbia resisters...may you always remain in the ranks of the uncaught.
53 posted on 08/23/2002 11:37:02 AM PDT by meanspirit77
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To: joyful1
"But he said if they were effective in deterring crime or catching criminals, City Council might decide later to place more of them in other parts of the city.

"despite all the ACLU half truths and spin, in every city where it has been used, crime is down dramatically."

Crime could be reduced even further if the government imitated curfews and began putting cops on every corner. Think about it, every time you take a walk someone checks your paperwork. Sound familiar?

Freedom bears inherent risk but I for one would rather take my chances of being mugged than being followed around from place to place by this not so well meaning parent.

54 posted on 08/23/2002 1:13:08 PM PDT by Allrightnow
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To: Allrightnow
Should have read "initiated"
55 posted on 08/23/2002 1:16:02 PM PDT by Allrightnow
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To: humblegunner
"Two words: Paintball gun."

No. Although dissidents in Britain - who lack guns - have successfully attacked spy cameras and traffic cameras by lassoing the camera head with ropes tied to car bumpers, the weak point of typical spy camera and traffic camera systems in the U.S. is that large ground-level box containing the control electronics; see photos.

56 posted on 08/23/2002 4:15:24 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: glc1173@aol.com
large ground-level box containing the control electronics

Which require a lens. I saw the pix, and the cams are indeed
quite high, but I still contend that a well placed paintball
will foul the lens, regardless of control boxes on the ground.

57 posted on 08/23/2002 4:40:06 PM PDT by humblegunner
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"Which require a lens. I saw the pix, and the cams are indeed quite high, but I still contend that a well placed paintball will foul the lens, regardless of control boxes on the ground."

Shoot the camera head with a paintball - a difficult shot at a small object about twice the height of a utility pole, and whatever agency runs the system cleans it up within a couple days. Sure, you can keep messing up the lens - and they can keep cleaning it up, probably eventually giving up on it.

But shoot that ground-level control box (see photo) - an easy shot at a big target - with a deer rifle, and its $10,000+ in electronics are ruined and a complex repair is needed. Best of all, you can do it from hundreds of yards away - out of the spy camera's vision!

58 posted on 08/23/2002 6:26:13 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: Black Agnes
SCANA alert!

All for it unless SCANA uses it to spot employees eating Maurice's Barbecue.

59 posted on 08/23/2002 6:28:45 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Teacher317
bump
60 posted on 08/24/2002 11:11:26 AM PDT by timestax
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