Posted on 08/23/2002 5:39:18 PM PDT by SheLion
Smoking pot, leaving kids in hot cars, physical abuse. What the heck does any of that have to do with adults who choose to smoke a legal commodity?
Smoking around children is such an act.
Most of the women in here who smoke, were born into smoking households, started smoking ourselves, got pregnant, smoked, delivered fine healthy BIG baby's, with NO asthma, nursed and smoked, grew our children up to be find healthy adults with NO asthma. How can you explain this?
I believe our children are a lot more healthier today then the children that are put into plastic bubbles and grow into sickly human beings that can't be exposed to anything the air has to offer. Not exhaust fumes, bar-b-ques, wood fires, and the list goes on and on. I have not one regret about smoking, being around smoking, or giving birth to a beautiful daughter as a smoker.
Smoker insensitivity has persuaded me. The force of law is needed here to help nonsmokers reclaim their right to not have to breath cigarette smoke! Nicotine addicts, on the whole, are not near as polite and considerate as they like to imagine themselves. I think smoking areas should be designated by law and smoking should be banned in most public areas. You see it coming at ya. Blame the rude smokers that a nonsmoking majority has had to 'tolerate' for too long for the anti-smoking backlash.
Your right to not breath cigarette smoke: I believe there are plenty of places today where you can go and not be around people who smoke. The Government has seen to that.
Smokers are NOT nice anymore. Smokers have become outraged and very cranky for the foul treatment we are receiving. Like I said before, if they think it's so deadly, if they think it's a killer, why don't they ban it! Because THEY want our money! That's why!
Once we had smokers and non-smokers. Still to this day, our non-smoking friends could care less. It's the anti-smoker that has entered to cause all of this uproar. Over what?
Like I said: I hate beer. I can't drink beer. Beer stinks. Yet I am forced to kiss a beer drinker and love it. Am I on a soap box trying to ban beer just because I don't like it, can't drink it and it stinks to me? NO!
Although probably true, the subject is second hand smoke.
And on the related topic, if genetically I am not predisposed to lung cancer what entitles you (or anyone else) to meddle in my private affairs?
Actually, even if I were predisposed the same question is appropriate; Are you ready to outlaw all high risk recreation and life choices because you are neurotic or have a need to control others?
Is your need to moralize so great as to be unable to remain on topic?
On the other hand, lifestyle choices of all kinds could save many more lives. The question is is that the government's concern in a "free" society?
Heart disease, as I understand is a greater killer than smoking.
AIDS kills more than smoking (or we're throwing billions down a rathole).
Does that justify the acceptance of a nanny government?
Why is it, a ANTI-SMOKER who professes to be a CONSERVATIVE yet does not really grasp the true meaning. This is something I am trying to put my finger on.
Are you serious?
Why should anyone waste their time studying why people smoke for scores of years and never get lung cancer?
Where's the fun in that?
On the other hand, I do have a question for your soon to be "ex" doctor:
How is it possible that of the ten documented longest-lived people, nine smoked past age 100 (both male and female)?
You have my admiration.
You have resisted the so-common new sport:
Perhaps the strongest need in human nature is the desire to lay down rules of conduct for others.
I couldn't care less what you reject or not reject. Judegement prior to exposure to evidence is the sign of a neurotic mind.
Just don't attempt to formulate public policy on behalf of all of us based on your ignorance.
Isn't that weird? I am working on that Wisconsin thread, (not posted yet), and typed Wisconsin. Then, when I re-read, I thought I better correct myself. Could be confusing to a lot of people. LOL!
And anyone who can't tell the difference between opinion and science is a dumber ass.
What's your point?
The number of opinions from ignorant people seems directly proportional to the square of their IQ, and inversely proportional to their grasp of science.
Obviously a neurotic hypochondriac who wasn't getting sufficent attention on the AIDS chat.
So feed his need for attention, why don'tcha.
Go for it dude.
You genes are not fit to pass on anyway, evidently.
What isn't!
Hospitals challenged by obese patients
Since the act of eating a fast-food cheeseburger involves a series of voluntary behaviors -- you must decide you want McDonald's, you must go there, you must take money from your pocket and you must lift the burger to your lips -- it's hard to see how anything that comes from eating that cheeseburger could be someone else's fault.
Surgeon general warns obesity may overtake tobacco as leading preventable killer
Three hundred thousand people die each year due to obesity-related causes. In terms of dollar amounts, the study found that obesity raised healthcare costs by an average of $395 a year, while smoking increased costs by $230 and heavy drinking is associated with a $150 annual increase. click here
The Feds: Terrorizing With Fat
AND OBESITY THREATEN U.S. HEALTH GAINS
Communities Can Help Address the Problem, Surgeon General Says
The list goes on and on.
All about control and all about the money! Exactly!
They are working hard to have marijuana legalized. Yet, they want smoking tobacco banned. What's up with this!
My cigarettes never make me go all funny in the head. Never put me on "cloud 9" doing a go-go.
You know what? I saw an ad on TV the other night about a mother screaming at her daughter for getting her tongue pierced and she "didn't shop around for a better price."
It's always been the American Way to shop around for the best price. Yet, by buying cigarettes from the Internet and the Reservations for a "cheaper price," it makes us all criminals.
Did you notice that?
Ahhh... Yup.
Einstein and Oppenhiemer both puffed away like crazy and were both (among many others) right down there with you IQ- wise...
You may have a point.
You know what. I was a professional dancer before I got married. I smoked. Since I was a dancer, I was in top shape. If a person eats right, maintains their weight and exercises, smoking is not going to reduce any lung power. Believe me, I know.
Smoking is a vice, an addiction
Smoking is an acquired habit. Those that do not like to smoke, don't. Those of us who smoke thoroughly enjoy it, otherwise we would not smoke. My Dad smoked for a long time. One morning, he got up, was so totally disgusted with smoking, that he never smoked another cigarette! I love to smoke. It's my choice to smoke. If I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't do it.
All this "smoker's rights" talk is very liberal
We are talking personal property rights here. If the government is left to take away the business owners choice, then the government will be into more of our personal lives. Is that what you wish for Americans?
Why don't you guys get together with sharpton, jackson, the gays, et al
Your a jerk. Last night, I was starting to like you. Maybe you had a few beers. This afternoon, my like for you has turned into distaste. Why don't you go kiss Hitlery arse then.
But that whole issue is a red herring in this case because we are discussing smoking and how wonderful it is for your health.
Ok! Name one thing you do in this life that the government hasn't already put a warning on it! If you have a son, the government is even trying to outlaw play grounds for the kids to play in. Isn't this wonderful! How about those greasy fast food burgers you grab on the run!
And since your so PERFECT, funny that your not sitting at the Right Hand of God.
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