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Fainting for fun concerns school officials
The AZ Republic ^ | 08/24/02 | By Doug Carroll

Posted on 08/24/2002 9:21:59 AM PDT by hsmomx3

A dangerous game of "blackout" involving seventh- and eighth-graders at J.O. Combs Elementary School near Queen Creek prompted a visit to the school Thursday from the Pinal County Sheriff's Department and Rural/Metro paramedics.

At least seven students in the K-8 school of 400 have been involved in the activity, during which a child is choked to the point of passing out. After a parent brought it to the attention of administrators, meetings with students took place Thursday and a letter went home to parents. "The children, of course, think it is all in fun," wrote Jan Langer, superintendent of the one-school Combs district. "However, as adults we recognize there could be deadly consequences to such actions." Sheriff's Deputy Bill Langan said he spoke with the seven boys who had been identified by administrators as participants. "We discussed what (blackout) was," Langan said. "They (said they) would breathe real fast and hyperventilate, and then be choked by two others. It didn't seem to me that they weren't at least partially willing to go through it. I don't know if it was for an initiation or what. One of the kids even said, 'We didn't think there was any harm in it.' "I asked them to help put the word out that this could turn out to be a tragic little playground stunt." Langan said he was unaware of such an activity until being summoned to Combs by Greg Milbrandt, the school's dean of students. "It was a new thing to me," Langan said. Paramedics spoke to all of the school's seventh- and eighth-graders later in the day about the medical hazards involved, Langer said in her letter to parents.

Reach the reporter at doug.carroll@arizonarepublic.com or at (602) 444-7945.


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1 posted on 08/24/2002 9:21:59 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3
Does anyone need anymore evidence that ours is a culture of death?
2 posted on 08/24/2002 9:25:44 AM PDT by independentmind
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When I was in 7th grade (more than 30 years ago, okay?) we would hyperventilate and then take a deep breath and blow hard without letting the air out (if that makes sense). Guaranteed way to faint. The more adventurous would let someone grab them from behind in a bear hug to bring it on quicker. After a week everyone was bored with it. Maybe we should advertise that as an alternative to voluntary strangulation. Kids will be kids. Dumber kids will be dumber kids.
3 posted on 08/24/2002 9:32:24 AM PDT by Glenn
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To: hsmomx3
At least seven students in the K-8 school of 400 have been involved in the activity, during which a child is choked to the point of passing out.

This is probably an isolated incident, with a small group of kids, in just one school.

That said, I'm so glad my kids are homeschooled. Today they're off with Dad for a P.L.I.N.K. day (Please Leave It NRA Klean) to pick up trash in the national forests, eat lunch, and shoot firearms. The values of today's "yutes" don't hold much appeal for them and I like it that way.

4 posted on 08/24/2002 9:35:55 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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Nothing new. Back when I was in 7th and 8th grade, kids did the same thing. That was 15 years ago.
5 posted on 08/24/2002 9:37:58 AM PDT by sigSEGV
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To: Glenn
When I was in 7th grade (more than 30 years ago, okay?) we would hyperventilate and then take a deep breath and blow hard without letting the air out (if that makes sense). Guaranteed way to faint.

Yep, did that (stupid) thing too some 28 years ago. The effect thankfully was temporary, almost like a buzz. But like you said, after a week, we were bored with it. Thank God none of us were hurt, or worse.

6 posted on 08/24/2002 9:43:49 AM PDT by kstewskis
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To: hsmomx3
Evolution in Action
7 posted on 08/24/2002 9:44:09 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Glenn
When I was in 7th grade (more than 30 years ago, okay?) we would hyperventilate and then take a deep breath and blow hard without letting the air out (if that makes sense). Guaranteed way to faint. The more adventurous would let someone grab them from behind in a bear hug to bring it on quicker.

I recall a classmate doing that (also 30+ years ago) at a 9th grade party I attended.
I remember thinking that he was a little weird.
Interestingly, he later became a liberal vegetarian and a journalist.

8 posted on 08/24/2002 9:46:52 AM PDT by Willie Green
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Well of course he became a liberal. He lost oxygen to his brain.
9 posted on 08/24/2002 9:50:25 AM PDT by ladylib
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I remember thinking that he was a little weird. Interestingly, he later became a liberal vegetarian and a journalist.

His name was Adam Clymer, wasn't it?

10 posted on 08/24/2002 9:53:48 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: independentmind
Huh?
11 posted on 08/24/2002 9:54:38 AM PDT by Ramius
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To: Glenn
When I was in 7th grade (more than 30 years ago, okay?) we would hyperventilate and then take a deep breath and blow hard without letting the air out (if that makes sense). Guaranteed way to faint. The more adventurous would let someone grab them from behind in a bear hug to bring it on quicker.

Same here except closer to 40 years ago.

12 posted on 08/24/2002 9:56:09 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Glenn
Spinning round and round is a gateway drug. Followed by cigarettes, then marijuana , heroin addiction and finally voting democrat.
13 posted on 08/24/2002 9:57:28 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Glenn
After a week everyone was bored with it.
Precisely. My experience exactly. It amused us for about, say, ten minutes.

Then we all discovered crystal meth and the fun never stopped. And I mean never. Because we never slept. Better living through chemistry.
14 posted on 08/24/2002 10:20:40 AM PDT by Asclepius
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His name was Adam Clymer, wasn't it?

LOL!
No. I haven't seen him in ages.
However, a Google search just helped me discover where he's working as a staff-writer/reporter.
It's not one of the big national major-metro newspapers, but still a recognizable paper in a well-known mid-sized American city.
As I remember him from high-school/college, he was a good friend.
A little strange, perhaps, but a decent guy that I DO consider to be an old friend.
For that reason, I don't see any constructive purpose to linking my anecdote to his current activities.
My lips are sealed.

15 posted on 08/24/2002 10:23:43 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Glenn
We did the same thing in Guantanamo back in the early 60's. I was in the 4th-5th grade.
16 posted on 08/24/2002 10:26:27 AM PDT by gitmo
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To: hsmomx3
Jeez,

And I thought lighting farts was bad......

17 posted on 08/24/2002 10:44:35 AM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: hsmomx3
Yep, kids did this back in the early 70's. One of my good friends got his two front teeth knocked out when he hit the bathroom floor. LOL. He didn't do it anymore.

Funny that this stuff was going on 30 years ago and teachers are just now finding out about it.
18 posted on 08/24/2002 10:52:50 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: ladylib
Well of course he became a liberal. He lost oxygen to his brain.

LOL!!!

Yeah, I suppose that's the simple explanation.
But then I have the advantage of knowing more about his background.

I suppose it's pertinent to mention that the probable reason this incident remains in my memory is that, of the 40 or so kids who were at this party, I was the one considered physically large enough to properly administer the bear-hug. I truely thought it was weird and didn't want to do it, but eventually succumbed to peer pressure (a trait that I do NOT exhibit on this forum, BTW!) Anyway, after he had recovered, everybody wanted to "see it again". But I at least had the good sense to insist that once was enough. Needless to say, they did do it again with smaller guys doing the squeezing, but the results (to ALL our good fortune) weren't quite as dramatic.

19 posted on 08/24/2002 11:01:22 AM PDT by Willie Green
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I don't know what schools you all went to..But I also attended 7th grade almost 30 years ago, and I've never heard of such a thing! My goodness.. the only fads in our jr. high were fairly benign; giant marbles on string (knockers), cinnamon oil on toothpicks, vanilla extract for perfume.. don't recall any of us doing anything this stupid.
20 posted on 08/24/2002 11:02:46 AM PDT by goodieD
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