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Armageddon With Pine Needles
The American Prowler ^ | 8/26/02 | Peter Hannaford

Posted on 08/26/2002 1:42:01 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

MATTOLE VALLEY, CALIFORNIA -- "Fight every battle as if it were Armageddon, for if you don't, the next one will be." That was the advice, now legendary, imparted forty or more years ago to environmentalists by David Brower, long-time leader of the Sierra Club and later founder of Friends of the Earth.

Spoken or unspoken, that dictum drives nearly every legal maneuver and public relations tactic of the arch-environmentalists today. Its most recent manifestation is the intense fight they are waging against efforts to cull underbrush, scrub trees and dead or dying large trees from national forests to reduce forest fire danger.

Three things are implicit in that Armageddon battle cry: (1) The environmentalists are motivated by high moral purpose; (2) The motives of the other side are base; and (3) There is no room for compromise.

The latest example of the third point involves a Federal District Court ruling ordering the National Forest Service to withdraw a plan to log timber burned in a 1999 fire in Six Rivers National Forest in northwestern California. The plan involved removing the dead trees from a 1,050-acre area, creating fuel breaks in the event of future fires. An environmental group sued to stop the plan, citing the National Environmental Policy Act. This is analogous to using the Endangered Species Act to halt development. When high moral pronouncements are stripped away, the underlying purpose of the former act seems to be to halt logging of any kind anywhere.

President Bush was in Oregon late last week, surveying the largest forest fire in the state's history. This summer's wildfires in several western states have consumed more than six million acres of timber, about twice the annual average. Fire fighting costs this year will be approximately $1.5 billion.

Bush announced a plan to reduce the danger of future forest fires. In Oregon he said, "We need to make our forests healthy by using some common sense. We need to understand (that when) you let kindling build up and there's a lightning strike, you're going to get yourself a big fire." The new plan would allow government agencies to enter into contracts giving companies that clear brush and thin forests the right to sell wood products they harvest.

While he was in Oregon, Bush endorsed a compromise forest management plan worked out by the Clinton administration in 1994. It called for a reduction of timber sales on federal lands in Oregon, Washington and California from five billion to 1.1 billion board feet a year and it set aside 7.4 million acres as old-growth reserves and for endangered species preservation. Timber sales are less than 40 percent of the amount envisioned, however, thanks to government red tape and litigation by environmentalist groups. Bush's plan calls for streamlining the permitting process, something the arch-environmentalists fear because they have convinced themselves that anyone who wants to cut down one diseased tree really wants to clear the entire forest for parking lots and condominiums.

Lost in the environmentalists' relentless drive to stamp out all timber harvesting in national forests is the fact that when the system was created it was to be -- unlike national parks -- mixed-use land. That is, timber harvesting, grazing, mining and recreation were to share the lands.

The 1994 Clinton plan, with Bush's modifications, won't provide 100 percent satisfaction to all parties, but compromises never do. Bush assumes, of course, that each party to the controversy will come to the table willing to give in order to get. If he is right, sensible compromise -- and fewer forest fires -- will be the result. It is going to be hard to bring off, however, if one of the parties thinks the bargaining table is the battlefield of Armageddon.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Colorado; US: Montana; US: Oregon; US: South Dakota; US: Texas; US: Utah; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: anticapitalism; deindustrialization; environmentalism; epa; esa; forestservice; wildfires

1 posted on 08/26/2002 1:42:01 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: madfly; farmfriend; Grampa Dave; sauropod; AAABEST
Good one ping!
2 posted on 08/26/2002 1:43:30 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: EBUCK; blackie; AuntB; justshe; tubebender; BOBTHENAILER; Archie Bunker on steroids; Granof8; ...
Tailgunner Joe thanks for finding and posting this.

Black Agnes thanks for the ping.

To the rest of you.

It is about time to start fighting the fires of the Enviral Nazis with FIRE!
3 posted on 08/26/2002 1:53:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Tailgunner Joe
That looks a lot like the Rogue River in Southern Oregon, is it? Hard to believe that the evriro-nazis prefer what's in this picture to making good lumber out of those trees.

They're a bunch of first class hypocrites! Of course there is NO wood in their dwellings, nooooooooo!

(/rant)

4 posted on 08/26/2002 1:55:54 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Tailgunner Joe
A tragic picture ping. . .
5 posted on 08/26/2002 3:29:33 PM PDT by cricket
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To: nightdriver; Grampa Dave
That picture is from the Montana fires last year. It's been all over the internet. I have it on my hard drive. It was so sad.
6 posted on 08/26/2002 3:32:12 PM PDT by madfly
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To: Libertarianize the GOP; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Stand Watch Listen; freefly; expose; ...
ping
7 posted on 08/26/2002 3:33:32 PM PDT by madfly
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Are you the original source of that picture? I use that a lot myself, but I have forgotten where I got it.

I think it is stunning. I'm inclined to have it printed and frame it.
8 posted on 08/26/2002 3:59:48 PM PDT by dinasour
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To: Tailgunner Joe; EBUCK; BOBTHENAILER; Grampa Dave; AuntB; Glutton
Bush endorsed a compromise forest management plan worked out by the Clinton administration in 1994. It called for a reduction of timber sales on federal lands in Oregon, Washington and California from five billion to 1.1 billion board feet a year...

This is the first number I have seen.

Please note that the area covered by the Sierra Nevada Framework alone produces approximately 2.3 billion board feet of additional growth per year. It's already catastrophically overstocked.

The Bush plan is therefore a formula for continued catastrophic fire but perhaps of confined scope if they concentrate on cutting a network of fuel breaks.

9 posted on 08/26/2002 4:24:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: dinasour
No. I lifted it from a freeper profile. It beautifully captures the relationship between red and green.
10 posted on 08/26/2002 4:35:47 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Grampa Dave
F.I.R.E !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

FMCDH !!
11 posted on 08/26/2002 4:47:25 PM PDT by blackie
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I wonder why the by line is Mattole Valley ? It is south of me about 60 miles and lies with in the Lost Coast area. The first oil well in Calif was drilled here at a place now called Petrolia.The Megram fire was 60 east of Eureka.

The law suit that stopped this salvage logging was brought by a group of anarchist calling themselves the Envirolmental Information Center (EPIC) out of Garberville Calif, the dope capital of the world. The Times-Standard had the story a few days ago. Do a goggle search on EPIC and cry.
12 posted on 08/26/2002 7:12:10 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: tubebender
First, the pic was posted by Joe and has no connection to the article. Second, I just search my .jpg's and I'm wrong about the date, the file is dated 9-17-00.
But the Montana fire was two years ago. If you want the file, freep me.
13 posted on 08/26/2002 8:22:09 PM PDT by madfly
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To: nightdriver
aren't these the same dickweeds who wouldn't allow My. St. Helen's dead trees to be salvaged, prefer suckerfish to fire fighters, and have driven as many cattle as possible off of the range?
14 posted on 08/26/2002 8:46:37 PM PDT by Righty1
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To: Righty1
"aren't these the same dickweeds who wouldn't allow My. St. Helen's dead trees to be salvaged....."

That's them! They don't really give a rip about the trees, they just want to destroy capitalism and free enterprise.

Even the U.S. Forest Service is into the act. They told me that I am not allowed to cut up windfallen trees for firewood because that's important as "bug habitat!" No lie.

Those who we hire to protect our forests are concerned that there are not enough destructive bugs in our forests that ruin trees. That should be lawsuit material!

15 posted on 08/26/2002 10:40:49 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Tailgunner Joe; nightdriver; cricket; Grampa Dave; dinasour; tubebender
Joe, sorry if I in any way indicated that you intentionally used an old pic here. I was just discussing this same pic earlier in the day. I just wanted to clarify the origin and went about it in the wrong way. I should have freepmailed you with the info and let you post the clarification. Or at least posted directly to you on the thread.

You work very hard right now posting all many the UN articles. I consider you to have integrity and to be someone who would never consciensly post in error. I am glad to be on your ping list and, once again sorry for posting what appeared to be a disparaging comment about you.

Thanks for your hard work on FR.

16 posted on 08/27/2002 5:51:25 AM PDT by madfly
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To: nightdriver
Its time to hold these store-front environmental groups and
the Sierra Club responsible for the garbage they are putting
out. They need to be sued bigtime!
17 posted on 08/27/2002 8:01:04 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Excellent article, Joe, and short enough that I might get some of the dolts I know to read it. Yes, I'm pissy today. The smoke here in So. Oregon NEVER seems to lift and on top of it we had a huge warehouse fire in downtown Medford last night. No injuries.....except a couple buildings and electricity/cable outage.
18 posted on 08/28/2002 3:40:56 PM PDT by AuntB
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