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Key Iraqi site reported wrecked
AP Wire ^ | Aug. 27, 2002

Posted on 08/27/2002 7:20:21 AM PDT by maquiladora

CAIRO, Egypt - A U.S.-British air raid in southern Iraq this weekend destroyed a major military surveillance site that monitors American troops in the Persian Gulf, witnesses said Tuesday.

The Iraqi military said the allied warplanes on Sunday bombed areas in Basra province, 330 miles south of Baghdad, killing eight civilians and wounding nine others.

The U.S. Central Command in Florida said coalition aircraft used precision-guided weapons to strike two air defense radar systems near Basra "in response to recent Iraqi hostile acts against coalition aircraft monitoring the southern no-fly zone."

The witnesses, Iraqis who said they were at the scene and were reached by telephone in neighboring Jordan on Tuesday, said one of the installations hit in Sunday's raids was the main headquarters of the army intelligence in southern Iraq that held a huge military surveillance unit.

Many Iraqis travel frequently to Jordan, which has strong trade and political ties with Iraq.

The site in Ashar, south of Basra, was hit by four missiles, which destroyed most of its buildings and left its equipment in shambles, a witness said on condition of anonymity.

He said he saw huge fire and black columns billowing from the buildings shortly after powerful explosions, which echoed in Basra, a major port city on the strategic Shatt Al Arab waterway.

Another witness said on condition of anonymity that troops and militia of the ruling Baath Party immediately cordoned off the area while ambulances and fire engines rushed inside the tightly guarded complex.

An Iraqi dissident in Amman, the Jordanian capital, said the site was recently equipped with advanced surveillance gear used to spy on U.S bases in the Persian Gulf and especially in Kuwait, where the United States is believed to have some 10,000 troops posted. The dissident, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, was not among the witnesses.

The Iraqi report didn't provide any details about the raids or the casualties. U.S. officials have said they have no way of confirming or denying Iraqi claims of causalities but that coalition aircraft "never target civilian populations or infrastructure and go to painstaking lengths to avoid injury to civilians and damage to civilian facilities."

The attacks came as Washington weighs options to topple Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. Iraqi opposition leaders say they are discussing their role in any bid to oust Saddam.

U.S. and British warplanes monitoring "no fly" zones over southern and northern Iraq regularly attack Iraqi military facilities. The zones were established shortly after the 1991 Gulf War to protect Kurdish and Shiite Muslim groups.

Iraq, which considers the zones violations of its sovereignty, frequently tries to shoot down allied planes. The patrols give coalition pilots intelligence and practical experience that could be helpful should the United States decide to go to war against Saddam.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; islamakazisdying; killingislamakazis; preemption; preemptivestrikes; roastingsaddam; saddamistoast; war
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1 posted on 08/27/2002 7:20:21 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
Is this allowed by the Americans with Disabilities Act? Is it fair to make your enemy blind? Surely that's not fair!! CALL THE ICC!!!!
2 posted on 08/27/2002 7:24:37 AM PDT by sam_paine
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To: maquiladora
I like this kind of incremental war.......inch by inch......getting closer all the time!!!
3 posted on 08/27/2002 7:24:44 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: maquiladora
"destroyed a major military surveillance site that monitors American troops in the Persian Gulf, witnesses said Tuesday"

Always the first to go in modern war. Take out communications/intel/command posts. Leave 'em blind and guessing. Worked in '91, will always work. I liked Hackworth's assessment too: "In '91, we had 'smart bombs'. Now we have 'genius bombs'". God bless American technology and protect our brave fighting forces....

4 posted on 08/27/2002 7:27:38 AM PDT by eureka!
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To: maquiladora
Allied airstrikes reportedly wreck key Iraqi surveillance site in south
5 posted on 08/27/2002 7:28:29 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: OldFriend
I like this kind of incremental war.......inch by inch......getting closer all the time!!!

It's like they are making Iraq spend time and money and tie up their "experts" in developing new sites and then in one fell swoop, after months of construction, they are destroyed. It must effect their morale as well.

6 posted on 08/27/2002 7:33:17 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: OldFriend
No doubt...Almost like a cat that plays with it's catch just before killing it.
7 posted on 08/27/2002 7:56:37 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: maquiladora
destroyed a major military surveillance site .....killing eight civilians and wounding nine others.

Yeah, right. Civilians killed, no military, at a major military site. More B...SH-ussein.

8 posted on 08/27/2002 7:57:41 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: maquiladora
Basra, a major port city on the strategic Shatt Al Arab waterway.

Heh heh heh...he said "shatt"...

9 posted on 08/27/2002 8:20:10 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: OldFriend
I like this kind of incremental war.......

Me too. Pressure,pressure, pressure......anuerism.

10 posted on 08/27/2002 8:24:20 AM PDT by bert
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To: fivecatsandadog
Raaaaaaaarr!!! Why don't you go back to DU since you can't seem to figure out that we are at work with these people and they would kill you in an instant if their weapons were up and running!
11 posted on 08/27/2002 8:28:28 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: princess leah
Oops - I meant we were at WAR, not work...obviously we can't work with them!
12 posted on 08/27/2002 8:29:03 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: princess leah
I think he was being sarcastic. Read it again.
13 posted on 08/27/2002 8:34:09 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: princess leah
What was that rant about. Read his post!
14 posted on 08/27/2002 8:38:12 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: maquiladora
Hmmm,Another little hors'doeuvre before serving up the MAIN COURSE!!!
15 posted on 08/27/2002 8:38:40 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: maquiladora
I read in an earlier report that there were 35 sorties on this strike. That seems a lot compared to what has been reportedly destroyed. Is there more to this story? (35 sorties?)
16 posted on 08/27/2002 8:43:34 AM PDT by blam
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To: hellinahandcart
Back in the good old days(Desert Storm)the road leading OUT of Basra was quaintly referred to as"The Road of Death"!If they(the media)hadn't shown us those pictures(George C.Patton Jr. must have LOVED them)maybe we could have finished the job.Too many "LiboCrites"went all weak in the knees and stopped the slaughter which would have ended with the LIBERATION of Baghdad and the Iraqui nation!!!!
17 posted on 08/27/2002 8:44:50 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: OldFriend
I like this kind of incremental war.......inch by inch......getting closer all the time!!

Yeah, me too and then when they least expect it....wham!!

18 posted on 08/27/2002 8:47:13 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: NRA2BFree
South, south, south, NORTH, wonder who will get it next! How's about the middle!!

However, may I ask for an extra prayer for my son's friend who is flying those missions over Iraq.

19 posted on 08/27/2002 8:52:37 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: maquiladora
The Iraqi military said the allied warplanes on Sunday bombed areas in Basra province, 330 miles south of Baghdad, killing eight civilians and wounding nine others

Funny how according to them, our raids kill only civilians.

20 posted on 08/27/2002 8:53:14 AM PDT by dighton
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To: NRA2BFree
South, south, south, NORTH, wonder who will get it next! How's about the middle!!

However, may I ask for an extra prayer for my son's friend and all his fellow flyers who are flying those missions over Iraq.

21 posted on 08/27/2002 8:53:16 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: princess leah
WHAT is your problem?
22 posted on 08/27/2002 9:02:18 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: dighton
Thank you. That's basically what I said (see #8). Guess I should've been more EXPLICIT.
23 posted on 08/27/2002 9:04:23 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: fivecatsandadog; dighton
The Iraqi military said the allied warplanes on Sunday bombed areas in Basra province, 330 miles south of Baghdad, killing eight civilians and wounding nine others

Funny how according to them, our raids kill only civilians

Yeah, right. Civilians killed, no military, at a major military site. More B...SH-ussein

Wait a minute! Y'all both said exactly what I was THINKING!

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Flyer

24 posted on 08/27/2002 9:11:54 AM PDT by Flyer
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To: OldFriend
However, may I ask for an extra prayer for my son's friend who is flying those missions over Iraq.

I'll be happy to pray for your son's friend as well as all of our Military. May God protect them all.

25 posted on 08/27/2002 9:13:59 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: maquiladora
Nice shootin' flyboys!
26 posted on 08/27/2002 9:17:30 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: maquiladora
New moon is 9/7...

"Slowly I turn... step by step... inch by inch..."

27 posted on 08/27/2002 9:18:02 AM PDT by mhking
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To: princess leah; fivecatsandadog; Flyer
Why don't you go back to DU since you can't seem to figure out that we are at work [sic] with these people and they would kill you in an instant if their weapons were up and running!

Princess Leah, you've misread #8. The plain meaning is: Iraqis lie about their casualties. Dead bodies at MILITARY sites will generally be those of MILITARY personnel.

28 posted on 08/27/2002 9:20:56 AM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
Thanks. Betcha those cinnamon rolls are pretty warm by now.
29 posted on 08/27/2002 9:26:20 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: maquiladora; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for posting this.

Seems like there is a whole lot of Preemption going on over there.

Preemption, Preemptive Strikes, has such a nice sound to it!
30 posted on 08/27/2002 9:32:15 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: maquiladora
The Iraqis will put their surveillance equipment in schools and hospitals, knowing we won't attack them there.
31 posted on 08/27/2002 9:34:12 AM PDT by tomahawk
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To: NRA2BFree
Thanks much, I did amend my post to include all our military.
32 posted on 08/27/2002 9:35:10 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend
Thanks much, I did amend my post to include all our military.

You're very welcome. God bless you for praying for our Military. This Iraq mess does concern me. I have a feeling they're really going to need all of our prayers. I don't think this is going to be a replay of Desert Storm. I don't trust our Arab "Allies" and I sure don't trust Saddam. He's crazy and he's dangerous.

33 posted on 08/27/2002 9:47:45 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: blam
That was what I read, maybe it was a deeply hardened site and we wanted to make sure!!

But I thought that was a report from the Iraqi side and maybe they wanted to elevate the size as a morale booster. Would be nice to hear from Rumsfeld as to more details!

34 posted on 08/27/2002 10:11:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: OldFriend; NRA2BFree; Grampa Dave
Prayers for our Military and our boys over there!

Have a couple of Granson's that are all hot to get into the action. One is a Senior in HS and just signed up for the Army Reserve, likes the Idea of the Special Forces. The younger one has a ex Marine Dad so as soon as he is old (2 more years) enough I expect him to enlist!

I don't think it is gonna be so easy this time.
I expect to see biological stuff used by Hussein.

35 posted on 08/27/2002 10:18:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That has to be tough to see Grandsons approaching military age. Of course they will want to do what is right and will volunteer.

Glad that my Bubba Bam Bam is only 18 months old at this time.
36 posted on 08/27/2002 10:27:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: bert
Me too. Pressure,pressure, pressure......anuerism

Hope Saddam forgets to take his blood pressure medication.

37 posted on 08/27/2002 10:39:16 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: maquiladora; Gritty
Found this from a thread posted before Sept 11 2001> Seems newly appropriate:

Hey Gritty, it's still there,but am confused about the date in the lower right !

The cartoon that is!

18 Posted on 05/14/2001 18:15:18 PDT by Gritty

From this thread:

here

38 posted on 08/27/2002 10:52:34 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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I like this kind of incremental war.......inch by inch......getting closer all the time!!!

A pity Viet Nam and Latin America impinge on my ability to petition God for mercy on those who know not what they do.

They know damn well what they do.

39 posted on 08/27/2002 10:53:03 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
War has never been easy. Our troops in the gulf had a scud land on their barracks. The troops in Bosnia sufferred FAR more than clinton and his cohorts in the media ever let on.

Bless your boys for wanting to serve their country. It is indeed noble.

40 posted on 08/27/2002 10:54:54 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: NRA2BFree
The rest of the folks in the middle east will sit on their hands and not dare attack us. As with Pakistan, as long as they see we are serious they will be on our side.

It's the indecisiveness of our responses all these years that left us so very vulnerable.

41 posted on 08/27/2002 10:56:39 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: maquiladora
In other news, U.S. warplanes heavily bombed an Iraqi villiage 130 miles southwest of Baghdad.
No civilians were killed, however 130 Iraqi soldiers are now missing...
42 posted on 08/27/2002 11:05:13 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic
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To: maquiladora
So Saddam is blind...we hope...China probably built the installation, and I hope it was the only one.

Anyhow....BULLSEYE BUMP!!!

43 posted on 08/27/2002 11:27:37 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: maquiladora
D-Day for the liberation of Iraq is September 11, 2002.
44 posted on 08/27/2002 11:30:42 AM PDT by Argus
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To: maquiladora
Hey...how can Iraq be a big trading partner of Jordan if zillions of Iraqi children are dying because Iraq has no money because of US sanctions?
45 posted on 08/27/2002 11:30:45 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: fivecatsandadog
"Yeah, right. Civilians killed, no military, at a major military site. More B...SH-ussein."

I'm surprised Saddam didn't say the civilians were blind, wheelchair-bound Red Crescent workers.

46 posted on 08/27/2002 11:33:23 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
it's still there,but am confused about the date in the lower right

I think most of these cartoon sites update by posting the most current offering on top of the previous ones and keeping the same URLs. This makes it tough for those who have taken the trouble to archive, but great on those who want to maintain a current outlook on the news, despite what was it was posted under over a year ago!

In a nutshell, I can't lay claim to "genius status" here (although there are those cloistered around here who say I deserve it! *applause* - Thank You, my Dear!) ;^)

47 posted on 08/27/2002 1:02:12 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: blam; Miss Marple; eastforker; cmsgop
blam can you find a link to that story???

See blam's post # 16...

48 posted on 08/27/2002 1:16:02 PM PDT by Dog
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To: dighton
military personnell or visiting red chinese "sub- contractors"... I cannot imagine sadaam only allowing eight or nine human shields around this very important installation however.

We must a really kicked their asses. Surpise, surprise!!!
kaboom. no mas aqui...
49 posted on 08/27/2002 1:34:50 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
His military will take him out.

They know they are crippled before us. This strike pretty much lets them know "YOU are doomed if we have to come in..."

I expect IRAQ will fall without a full scale invasion. The China connection will be exposed... and the liberals in america will go weak in the knees... as they fully support the regime in Communist China...

Perhaps that is WHY they don't want us to go after Iraq to begin with. China and her proxy wars were their last, best hope for installing tyrannical worldwide socialism.
50 posted on 08/27/2002 1:38:12 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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