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Calif. cigarette tax threatens citizens' liberties (FReeper author? "Lowbeam" reference...)
Daily Bruin (UCLA) ^
| 8/26/02
| Joel Schwartz
Posted on 08/27/2002 10:13:22 AM PDT by NorCoGOP
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posted on
08/27/2002 10:13:22 AM PDT
by
NorCoGOP
To: NorCoGOP
Lot of support for the anti smoking crew here at FR. I don't think conservatives are what they used to be.
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posted on
08/27/2002 10:23:36 AM PDT
by
steve50
To: NorCoGOP
It's a reference to Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown.
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posted on
08/27/2002 10:24:05 AM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: NorCoGOP
AMEN...
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posted on
08/27/2002 10:25:11 AM PDT
by
trebb
To: steve50
I'm going to invest all my money in Mexican tobacco companies.
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posted on
08/27/2002 10:26:34 AM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: NorCoGOP
Hell of a lot more smokers than Homosexuals yet the AIDS lobby and homosexual union lobby etc etc etc get all they want
most smokers don't vote and probably don't even know who the governor is
Most of the ones that do vote probably yank the democrat lever
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posted on
08/27/2002 10:26:44 AM PDT
by
uncbob
To: Dakmar
I think the latest trade deal pretty much lets cargo go thru pre checked, might be a good play.
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posted on
08/27/2002 10:30:25 AM PDT
by
steve50
To: NorCoGOP
Don't get me started.
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posted on
08/27/2002 10:33:18 AM PDT
by
pattycake
To: uncbob
"most smokers don't vote and probably don't even know who the governor is
Most of the ones that do vote probably yank the democrat lever"
Said by somebody who obviously doesn't follow the neverending discussion of smoking issues on FR.
"Whether or not one smokes or hates cigarettes, any support for such a tax bill is not made after careful deliberation, but as a knee-jerk reaction to anti-smoking propaganda. The tax unjustly singles out the poor people of California who smoke more than middle and upper class people. It also singles out a small percentage of the population to pay a huge fee for doing something that is perfectly legal. And although smokers aren't a demographic group per se, how is singling them out for a tax any different than charging women a little extra for feminine products or charging Jews a little more for their Passover matzah?
Until we, the voters, are willing to tell our politicians that we will not stand for such practices, we will always be in danger of losing our liberty."
This isn't a smoking issue, it is a freedom issue.
They are using the tobacco tax money to support the state budget and expand the socialized state.
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posted on
08/27/2002 10:50:07 AM PDT
by
Lokibob
To: NorCoGOP
Internet sales of cigarettes are booming. Lots of new customers from Indiana, Michigan, and New Jersey.
To: pattycake
Don't get me started. Ditto
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posted on
08/27/2002 11:10:25 AM PDT
by
jdontom
To: NorCoGOP
Good article. But...
It also singles out a small percentage of the population...The percentage of smokers in the USA is higher than the number of black people living here. Smokers should scream "discrimination!"
FYI, I'm trying to quit the habit.
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posted on
08/27/2002 11:21:31 AM PDT
by
Cobra64
To: steve50; *puff_list; Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; ...
Lot of support for the anti smoking crew here at FR. I don't think conservatives are what they used to be. No. Conservatives that have turned into RINO'S are really sad, steve.
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posted on
08/27/2002 11:22:13 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: NorCoGOP
Everyone is aware of the health risks associated with smoking. There are also dangers associated with eating meat, sugar, soda, saccharine, milk, eggs and cheese. All of these products are simply one of the many choices that consumers make to enhance their own perceived well-being and comfort. But we don't see a smear campaign against meat companies or massive taxes on their products. The sun is a Class A Carcinogen. Are we going to ban it to?
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posted on
08/27/2002 11:23:49 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: Cobra64
The percentage of smokers in the USA is higher than the number of black people living here. Smokers should scream "discrimination!" There are 55 million smokers in the U.S. We out number the NRA and the AARP!
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posted on
08/27/2002 11:25:38 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: uncbob
most smokers don't vote and probably don't even know who the governor is Most of the ones that do vote probably yank the democrat lever
Gee, that's news to me. I've been a voting Republican for as many years as I've been smoking... 34 years. I was smoking a Winston cigarette while applauding Barry Goldwater at a rally in 1964.
Sheesh, the statements people make are unbelievable.
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posted on
08/27/2002 11:26:04 AM PDT
by
Cobra64
To: uncbob
most smokers don't voteCould you lead me to the source for this statement?
To: SheLion
There are 55 million smokers in the U.S. We out number the NRA and the AARP! So...there are at least double that number of OVERTAXED citizens in this country and we still have the I.R.S.
Get rid of this chain around our necks and freedom will be ringing loud and clear.
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posted on
08/27/2002 11:40:46 AM PDT
by
unixfox
To: waterstraat
I just got my first order of cigarettes yesterday from an internet company in North Carolina. I smoke Sherman's and I was even able to get those....at almost half the price if I buy them in a store here. SO....no taxes to the Fascist Socialist Republic of the once great state of California.
To: waterstraat
Don't Forget New York, Our so called Republican Gov Pataki Raised the state tax $1.50 a pack. now ciggs cost between 4 to 6$ a pack at the stores oppossed to $1.10 a pack (Generic)over the internet. In New York City Mayor Bloomberg another Republican raise the tax another $1.50 a pack on top of that! IT costs you between $6.00 to $7.50 a pack in NYC. These Polititions are Cowards attaking the easy smokers you usually don't even get to collect Social Security because they don't live long enough on average.Vote Conservative!
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posted on
08/27/2002 11:48:58 AM PDT
by
warfrat
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