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Liberals dominate colleges disparately
The Boston Herald ^ | Tuesday, August 27, 2002 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 08/28/2002 8:12:41 AM PDT by vannrox

Liberals dominate colleges disparately


A Boston Herald editorial
Tuesday, August 27, 2002

George F. Will's commentary on ABC-TV's ``This Week'' show Sunday deplored

the dominance of liberals on university faculties. This is not news; what set Will going was a report of voting registration figures for professors at several leading universities in the September issue of The American Enterprise, a magazine published by a conservative Washington think-tank, the American Enterprise Institute.

Will did not go into how this disparity might be challenged, but an accompanying article raises the possibility that some now-familiar claims from civil rights lawsuits might be used to sue some universities: the claims of ``disparate treatment'' and ``disparate impact.''

In other words, Republicans and conservatives could claim they were discriminated against, based on the huge underrepresentation of like-minded people according to those voting statistics, polls and other data. (Among 151 Ivy League professors polled in 2001, the magazine reports, 3 percent indentified themselves as Republicans and 57 percent identified themselves as Democrats.)

This probably wouldn't work in federal court, notes the author, New York attorney Kenneth Lee, because federal civil rights laws don't mention political ideology or affiliation - but the laws of some states do.

We think such a lawsuit should not be pursued. It was a mistake for the courts ever to permit sheer statistical disparities alone to be grounds for complaint. In the civil rights context, there are often many possible explanations other than discrimination for sparse representation of some group.

But the disparity complaint about colleges is a good one to carry into the court of public opinion.

Colleges employ, and defend, racial quotas in admissions on the claim that ``diversity'' is important. They mean that diversity of skin color is important.

The important diversity is really a diversity of outlook, and students are never going to be exposed to much of it when Democrats outweigh Republicans on the faculty by a ratio of 19-1.

There's no shortage of conservative scholars capable of meeting university standards. Think-tanks of all persuasions are full of them. Quarterly, monthly and weekly magazines of opinion are overflowing with their articles.

More than a quarter-century ago, in a discussion of another manifestation of groupthink among faculties, B. Bruce-Biggs wrote that the preference for foreign cars was so great that ``in our leading universities, it would almost be an act of moral courage for a professor to own a Buick.'' Today, it would be almost an act of moral courage for a professor to argue against a single-payer health insurance system.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: american; anti; bias; campus; college; education; homeschool; liberal; media; professor; school; teacher; university
This is thought of as a good thing in Boston.
1 posted on 08/28/2002 8:12:41 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
This is thought of as a good thing in Boston.

"This" editorial, or "this" situation where liberals dominate college faculties? (I suspect you meant the latter.) Heaven knows Boston and Cambridge are full of 'em.

I figure I have at most 5 years remaining to convince my older son that he wants to go to a conservative Christian college or university. Right now, being nearly 12, he thinks he wants to go to Miami (FL), Arizona, or Iowa State (sports, sports, and Mom-and-Dad's alma mater).

Then again, finances might mandate the local community college, to begin with...

2 posted on 08/28/2002 8:22:17 AM PDT by newgeezer
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To: newgeezer
>finances might mandate the local community college, to begin with...

If education is the objective, there's nothing wrong with taking the first 2 years in a Community College. The quality of eduction there oftens exceeds that at a University where underclassmen are taught by student assistants and teaching aids instead of real teachers, and in classrooms with hundreds of seats.

3 posted on 08/28/2002 8:30:23 AM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
The quality of eduction there oftens exceeds that at a University where underclassmen are taught by student assistants and teaching aids instead of real teachers, and in classrooms with hundreds of seats.

When I was learning C++ as a computer science freshman at the University of Maryland, fellow high-school graduates who went to the local community college as studying computer science were learning how to click on icons in Windows.

I often found TAs to be better teachers than real professors, mostly because the TAs were more adaptable and still learning. Arrogance and ego (and tenure) had not set in yet, and they were more familiar with newer developments.

4 posted on 08/28/2002 8:45:24 AM PDT by jae471
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To: newgeezer
Beware of even some of the Christian colleges. I am a Christian, retired Army chaplain. I have nothing against Christian colleges, but I am here to tell you, more and more of them are drifting to the "dark side" - compromising with the secular academic world. This is not a blanket indictment, just a caution. This is particularly true in the sciences. I do not intend to open the doors to the "crevo" discussion at this point...just "look before you leap."
5 posted on 08/28/2002 8:45:38 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: vannrox
It was a mistake for the courts ever to permit sheer statistical disparities alone to be grounds for complaint.

They just now realized this? Bwahahahaaa!

6 posted on 08/28/2002 8:46:05 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: LiteKeeper
Thanks for the warning. That's precisely why I specified "conservative Christian college." ;-)
7 posted on 08/28/2002 8:54:47 AM PDT by newgeezer
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To: LostTribe
I took a cabinet making class a few years ago at RIT because the instructor is very well known for fine wood work. First day of class I find that the class instructor is a graduate student of his but what really got me was that I couldn't understand a word that this person said. He was East Indian and had the worst accent I've ever encountered but otherwise a nice guy and did do good work. I was pissed because I felt mislead as were some of the other students so we went up front to the enrolement office. We were basically told to take him or quit the class. I quit, I couldn't see paying a lot of money for somebody that could barely speak english just so they could speak to me.
8 posted on 08/28/2002 8:56:19 AM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: vannrox
I love it! Give the diversity quota freaks a taste of their own medicine!
9 posted on 08/28/2002 9:03:46 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: newgeezer
I figure I have at most 5 years remaining to convince my older son that he wants to go to a conservative Christian college or university.

Check out BOB JONES UNIVERSITY, Greenville, SC....an absolutely super school for the money.

10 posted on 08/28/2002 9:25:25 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: vannrox
Ludwig Von Mises noted this over 50 years ago in his book The Anti-Capitalist Mentality. In the book, Von Mises suggested that academics are over represented on the socialist side of life because they know that ordinary business people make more money than they do. In a capitalist society the consumer is king. The academics believe there is a fairer, better system, which should give them more than the consumer deigns to do.

Envy is a powerful, destructive emotion. It only requires you see something you would like that someone else possesses because of merit. You find yourself deficient compared to the successful person; hence, you envy, resent and attempt to destroy him or his reputation

11 posted on 08/28/2002 10:45:05 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: newgeezer
There needs to be a bunch of lawsuits for many reasons:

1) To break the left over our effing knee because half their power base is the university which they took over in the 60's and 70's. It was all a part of Gramsci's "Culture War".
2) They do discriminate against Republicans and violate the very same laws they worked to enact. Conservatives has routinely been discriminated against and students are even purged if they do not tow the leftist campus orthodoxy.
3) The universities are being used as inodoctrination centers instead of schools of higher learning. Its a huge waste of taxpayer money when they hire terrorists and have anti-semitism protests run by faculty members.

This reminds me that the University of Colorado has a ratio of 31-1 democrts vs. Republicans. Talk about propaganda.

12 posted on 08/28/2002 10:56:19 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: jae471
You were lucky to get a TA who could speak English. It's all a big crap shoot, but by and large the quality of undergraduate education at big public universities is apallingly bad. You never even see the top name profs until you are in a Doctoral program, and then rarely.
13 posted on 08/28/2002 11:03:37 AM PDT by LostTribe
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To: SirFishalot
>I find that the class instructor is a graduate student ... I couldn't understand a word that this person said.

Yep. I would have quit too. Political Correctness rules.

14 posted on 08/28/2002 11:06:03 AM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LiteKeeper
> I have nothing against Christian colleges...

Nor do I, but your caution is well taken. I served many years on the Board of Regents of a well-known Private Christian College (from which I also graduated) and know well the problems. While we would like to see them fiercely independent of public colleges, they instead want to emulate them.

The hard-a$$ed entrepreneurs on a governing board are always the best and clearest thinking Regents. But there is constant pressure to replace them with educational bureaucrats, ecclesiastical bureaucrats, non-profit bureaucrats, and other non-producers who cannot grasp the big picture and just want to be loved.

I sent several of my kids there, and now a Grandaughter, and regard this Private Christian College highly (in contrast to most public colleges), but as a Regent Emeritus remain critical of their failure to pull more towards the center and away from the standard left-wing garbage. In that sense, they are not unique.

15 posted on 08/28/2002 11:20:36 AM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LiteKeeper
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What is your ICQ# all about? I've seen it at several sites but it rings no bells.

Thanks-

-LT
16 posted on 08/28/2002 11:28:47 AM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
You were lucky to get a TA who could speak English.

I'll agree on this. The TA I had for discrete math was Korean, and had trouble expressing the logic in English. This is somewhat understandable, since "Aren't you going?" and "Are you going" mean the same thing in English, but mean very different things in logic. A word like the French "si" (affirmation of question phrased in the negative) would have made the whole thing much easier for the class and the TA.

Aside from that instance, there only other problem I had was with a little Chinese prof in my Stat class. She had trouble understanding questions.

As far as leftism, I majored in a mathematical science (little room or politics), and minored in Criminal Justice (very few professional proffessors -- most worked or had worked outside the University in "the real world" and leaned right)

17 posted on 08/28/2002 11:55:08 AM PDT by jae471
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To: vannrox
Go to engineering or business school.
18 posted on 08/28/2002 12:42:52 PM PDT by weikel
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