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I still don't understand Buchanan's sympathy toward the Palestinians, but the rest is right on target.
1 posted on 08/28/2002 9:16:46 AM PDT by sixmil
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Isn't it possible to recognize that Israel's interests are not necessarily our interests, without being "pro-Palestine"?
2 posted on 08/28/2002 9:20:17 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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Why do I suspect that Buchanan's mag will go the way of Salon and Donahue's new show.

Pat, how about "The American Sore Loser" as a working title. You can get Gore and McKinney as contributing columnists.
3 posted on 08/28/2002 9:25:29 AM PDT by finnman69
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Buchanan: I regret that for the rest of Mr. Bush's first term, we're going to be at war. The president has subcontracted out our Middle East policy to Ariel Sharon, and I think that's a dreadful mistake.

Buchanan is a 1920's conservative, anti-Semitism and all.

7 posted on 08/28/2002 9:43:05 AM PDT by SunStar
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My two cents:

Pat Buchanen has never been anything other than a self-styled arch-conservative. Just because he says he is the epitome of conservatism does not make it true.

I, for one, put Mr. Buchanen's comments on the same level as any talking head who has never felt that burden of actual responsibility. He might be a fine professor of conservative thinking, but he has very little grasp of the realities of day to day command and decision making. It is not wrong to dream of a conservative Utopia, or to even espouse such a dream, but leaders deal with actual situations containing actual problems.

If Pat wants to put forth potential solutions and forward thinking ideas to better our country I might listen, but it seems that his greatest commodity is the ability to find fault in everyone else but himself. As for me - I'm not buying.

10 posted on 08/28/2002 9:57:07 AM PDT by BlueNgold
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The new, bi-weekly magazine will debut next month and be called "The American Conservative."

"The American Socialist" would be more appropriate for a magazine founded by Buchanan.

22 posted on 08/28/2002 10:21:30 AM PDT by connectthedots
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You believe the remark that "The reason they were over here on 9-11 is that we are over there." is on target? I think not. Also he repeats the lie that the President is going to war without the approval of Congress. Bush has clearly stated he would get approval from Congress...

"Publicly, White House spokesmen say Bush would still consult Congress on any decision regarding war on Iraq."

Source

It was the WH lawyer, Alex Gonzales who stated Bush did not need Congressional approval, HE does NOT make the decisions, in fact, although true, it was a very stupid thing for him to say publicly. To top that, Congress has already given their approval to topple Saddam already, via H. CON. RES. 286, dated Dec 11, 2001, the last paragraph which states:

"Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (22 U.S.C. 2151 note) declares that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime of Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime: Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That the Congress supports the President in using all means at his disposal to encourage the establishment of a democratically elected government in Iraq."

Source: Thomas Legislation Archives

23 posted on 08/28/2002 10:22:09 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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"Patrick J. Buchanan isn't giving up. He's left the Republican Party for good. And he isn't planning a fourth run for the White House."

I'm sure the Satanic Druids and Illuminatis are relieved!

25 posted on 08/28/2002 10:23:52 AM PDT by Destructor
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Containment and deterrence will work with almost any state.

Except those who die for Allah and could care less about loss of life in any country. Buchanan is wrong on this. The best defense is a good offense. He may be conservative but he doesn't understand self-defense.

I also disagree with him vehemently on Israel. Buchanan sees both sides as equal which leads me to believe he is clueless about this religious war we are in, and he is clueless as to the religious nature of the war in Israel. He needs to bone up on radical islam. I will be glad to send him "Islamic Invasion" by Dr. Robert Morey if he needs an education.

33 posted on 08/28/2002 10:34:30 AM PDT by exmarine
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Just a future failure for Pat. Something he's used to.
35 posted on 08/28/2002 10:36:36 AM PDT by Glenn
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Buchanan can't get 1% of the vote...he is a noisy nat....a has been...no longer listened to but by the phone booth convention crowd.
43 posted on 08/28/2002 10:41:40 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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Republicans are really good at self destruction, with the help of the left-wing's useful idiots, the libertarians.

Well....guess I have to prepare for '04 when the far-left is given the rule of the land and turns the republic into a Marxist utopia.

48 posted on 08/28/2002 10:46:08 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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Well, if you think that, then you must assume Pat is an idiot, because what Bush did on Sept. 14 was to say that those who support terrorists are our enemies. Pat endorsed that. Now he doesn't endorse going after those states?

Forget this "preemptive" crap. The first shots were fired in 1993. We need no more evidence about the "intentions" of Saddam. His actions speak loud enough. That ANY of these pipsqueak countries harbor and encourage these terrorists is reason for me to support taking them out.

It's sad Pat compartmentalizes the world, seeing Saddam as separate from the Pales and from the Saudis and from Osama. The more I see, the more I see that all these nations are intricately tied together in terror.

49 posted on 08/28/2002 10:46:42 AM PDT by LS
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I still don't understand Buchanan's sympathy
toward the Palestinians, but the rest is right on target.

It's the natural outcome of his antipathy towards Jews.

55 posted on 08/28/2002 11:00:51 AM PDT by gcruse
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"The new, bi-weekly magazine will debut next month and be called "The American Conservative Populist.""

There. Much better.

62 posted on 08/28/2002 11:14:30 AM PDT by rdb3
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Buchanan is wrong. There is absolutely nothing we can do here to prevent a nuke going off in front of the Capitol during a State of the Union address.

America is doomed until we re-define globalization to be the infiltration and neutralization of our enemies.


BUMP

70 posted on 08/28/2002 11:19:49 AM PDT by tm22721
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Buchanan: Great writer and commentator. Very weak politician and candidate.

His magazine will probably fail financially; reflecting the narrow appeal of his presidential run(s).

93 posted on 08/28/2002 11:43:07 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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The ultimate question is whether there's going to be a Jewish state in the Mideast

If Pat were King, I'm sure this would be so. He would abandon our long time ally like Clinton dumped Lewinsky, in a heart beat.

Pat is so clueless on foreign affairs he still thinks WW2 was a mistake on Roosevelts part. Even with the benefit of hindsight his brand of isolationism pulls the wool right over his eyes.

I agree with Pat on securing the borders from illegals and on protecting the life of the unborn.

I disagree with Pat that pulling the covers over you head and hoping the Husseins of the world go away before you wake up is a substitute for foreign policy. That difference is so profound I put Pat only a few notches ahead of Harry the Hat as far as getting my vote goes.

122 posted on 08/28/2002 12:13:08 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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Of what advantage is all this American empire, interfering in all these quarrels around the world, if as a consequence we lose freedom at home and live in constant danger of some kind of small atomic weapon detonated on American soil?

No entangling alliances bump!
126 posted on 08/28/2002 12:18:23 PM PDT by WindMinstrel
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I still don't understand Buchanan's sympathy toward the Palestinians, but the rest is right on target.

The rest is right on target? Buchanan is a psychopath!! Good Lord, to think ANYONE supports his mindset, is frightening to say the least.

140 posted on 08/28/2002 12:37:17 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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Anybody who has a state, including Saddam Hussein, is going to be reluctant to go to war against the United States or to commit any atrocity which would put them in a war with the U.S. Containment and deterrence will work with almost any state.

Deterrence might work if Iraq itself were theatening to invade the US or neighboring states, but that's not what we're afraid of this time. We fear that Saddam is arming and sheltering al Qaeda. We need to define any Iraqi military facility that Saddam refuses to let us inspect as a facility that won't be there tomorrow morning.

171 posted on 08/28/2002 1:09:37 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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