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Fellow FReepers have torn this bogus article and your illogical arguments to shreds, yet you still cling to this ridiculous conspiracy theory. Why? Do you really believe this nonsense, or do you just so desperately want to believe it? And again, Why? Do you think it's your patriotic duty to attempt to lump true patriots together with tin foil hat wearing, black helicopter sighting morons?

There's nothing wrong with questioning the actions and motives of our representatives in government. That's the American way. But, spouting wild conspiracy theories that verge on slander and that can be easily shot down is no way to do it. Who's going to listen to you come the day when you do have a valid argument after you've discredited yourself by supporting this garbage?

I suppose the Florida flight instructors who reported that the hi-jackers said they only wanted to learn how to fly a plane, but had no interest in bothering to learn how to take off or land are part of this grand conspiracy, too.

Pre-9/11, American intelligence agencies definitely had their heads up their posteriors. No doubt about that. Did they close their eyes and knowingly let 9/11 happen? I don't think so. They either had their eyes ripped out by a Clinton administration that crippled them, or were blindfolded and shackled by PC bullsh*t... or both. They're no longer crippled IMO, but still blindfolded and shackled. The PC gods still reign in America and hunger for human sacrifices, which they'll probably get when a terrorist, who was gleefully issued a visa or allowed to cross our border post-9/11, sets off a dirty nuke in a major American city or commits some other atrocity.

My reservations for certain aspects of the Patriot Act aside, if 9/11 is all some part of a grand conspiracy to pull America deeper into the UN and a New World Order, it isn't working very well. Americans are awake, disgusted with the UN and our foreign critics more than ever, we've been acting "in-your-face" unilaterally, and have told the ICC, the Kyoto weenies, and the disarmament freaks to go to h3ll. Plus, with each passing day our own Fifth Column looks more and more like the fools and traitors they are in the eyes of the average American.

We still have a lot of problems, our share of idiots, and some very bad policies to deal with. There are those who would use 9/11 as an excuse to restrict our freedoms, and we must remain vigilant now more than ever before. But, mindlessly swallowing bogus conspiracy theories is not vigilance, it's a distraction from the true battles we should be prepared to fight.

If all the information and arguments contained in this article are so bogus, why are so many people, yourself included SO concerned with it, since its so OBVIOUSLY all untrue?

I'm not sure I ever said I supported everything the article states. I'm not aware that was ever a requirement for posting here. If it is, it will make thios a sterile, boring, useless forum. I posted it because the people behind this report seem to have some knowledge based on their alleged backgrounds to make a case. Also it was reported by a fairly substantial size publication, The Portugal News, one of the very few publications to inform its readers that the Bilderberg Conference was going to be held in Portugal 2 years ago and what it deals with. American newspapers lavish attention on the G-8 conferences and deliberately ignore the Bilderberg, even though its composed of some of the most influential and powerful leaders and newmakers in the world. I guess you would consider that to be not suitable for this forum either.

As to my "defense" of this "torn to shreds" article, I have attacked only some of the most illogical non-thinking kneejerk statements made.

1. I dont know if the planes were remote controlled, but the technology exists. It was tested over the Pacific Ocean.

2. Why are none of the hijackers listed on the passenger lists? No one has bothered answering this.

3. If you doubt that people in high positions of power aren't capable of being involved in this I have a few questions for you:

Was FDR aware of Pearl Harbor attack and did he let it go forward? Most historians would now say yes. Was it planned long in advance? Secretary of State Cordell Hull said as much.

Have we manipulated politics to cause wars in the past? Yes. Spanish-American War was with the sinkling of the Maine. Pearl Harbor. The communists were induced to attack by our governments statements, much like Hussain attacked Kuwait after April Glaspie said we wouldn't defend it.

Then there is Operation Northwoods. You can read the actual documents, the plan put together by the Joint Chiefs to set Cuba up to take the fall for an attack on America to be launched by the US Military, including blowing up and shooting down commercial airliners and blaming it on Cuba as a pretext to invade it! That's public record. JFK nixed it, thank God.

There is a lot of smoke to indicate a fire exists. Take all the record put options put on the airline and insurance stocks....just happened to be American and United airlines only. Gee, where'd that investigation go?

Look at the close connections of the Bush family and the Bin-Ladins. Look at the alleged hijackers. 15 of the 19 came from Saudi and none of them were particularly religious, they were all rich. just like Bin-Laden. A rich playboy who finds God. And hijackers who apparently didn't know the end result of their mission. And an administration already on Cipro the night of the attacks.

No I'm not out of line to ask questions with stories that have a million holes in them, like the official version.

Why not just release the recording or transcript of the flight recorder flight 93? Because their arrogant and they know people like you will just buy anything rather than be labelled a kook.

I'm reminded of Thoreau when confronted at jail by his friend Ralph Waldo Emerson. "What are you doing in there, Henry?" "No, Ralph the question is, what you doing out there?".